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Baghdad Hill Blues
American Spectator ^ | July 27, 2005 | Megan Basham

Posted on 07/27/2005 12:01:25 PM PDT by siunevada

After a string of recent flops including the much-maligned Blind Justice, television producer Steven Bochco is again garnering high praise, this time for a series focusing on soldiers in the current Iraqi conflict. Over There, which debuts tonight on F/X, marks a milestone in television as the first series to fictionalize an ongoing war.

Firsts are nothing new to Bochco, who became famous for creating groundbreaking dramas like L.A. Law and NYPD Blue (not to mention being the first to feature a naked derriere on broadcast television). And though Over There is his first foray into cable, Bochco's betting his edgy take on the subject will draw viewers away from big networks, just as Nip/Tuck and The Shield have in the last few years. The question is, just what edge will Bochco be pushing?

Both F/X and Bochco have gone to great lengths to publicize the notion that the series takes no political point of view. But, as is often the case with Hollywood, producers sometimes reveal impartiality without meaning to, as though their liberalism is so ingrained they assume that unless they have characters screaming "I hate George Bush" the project must be non-partisan.

Take, for example, Bochco's comment to Reuters about the show, "Ultimately, a young man being shot at in a firefight has absolutely no interest in politics." This statement does a disservice to the men and women serving in Iraq, implying that they are unwilling (or worse, unable) to weigh the wages of war -- loss and violence on the one hand, freedom and security on the other -- and decide that their sacrifice is worth our greater good.

Instead, Bochco characterizes the soldiers in typical postmodern fashion, as in this clip from the first episode where a young soldier reflects on his role in the war: "Someone said tragedy was the inevitable working out of things. And the tragedy here is we're savages. We're thrilled to kill each other. We're monsters. And war is what unmasks us. But there's a kind of honor in it too. I guess if I'm a monster, it's my privilege to be one."

It seems hard to believe that "honorable monster" is how most of those deployed in Iraq would prefer to describe themselves. I certainly can't recall any interview in which an American soldier espoused similar amoral feelings. If Bochco's Iraqi conflict is populated with young recruits that "are not fighting for an ideal," as he told the New York Times, then his is indeed a fictional war.

BUT IF ANYTHING BETRAYS the potential spirit of the series, it is the fact that the mainstream media is already rallying to uphold Bochco's claims of objectivity. After praising the series for "the potent way it destroys and debunks the myths that glorify war," the Hollywood Reporter predicted, "It is possible, maybe even inevitable, that supporters of President Bush and the war will misinterpret this series as a statement against a U.S. presence there. Clearer minds, however, will recognize this for its nonpartisan and successful effort..."

Before that, the Los Angeles Times reported that "none of the soldiers in 'Over There' is particularly gung-ho," as though depicting soldiers who have little enthusiasm for their jobs is evidence that show is balanced. And the Rocky Mountain News touted the program's authenticity by observing that, in it, "heroism is secondary to survival." In fact, the paper reported that each soldier is "frantic" to merely be "a survivor." Not a fighter. Not a liberator. Not even a conqueror. Just something as ambiguous as a survivor.

Of course, Bochco's pioneering work on series like Hill Street Blues, L.A. Law, and NYPD Blue demands that we reserve final judgment until the show has run for a few episodes. Nonetheless, it's not hard for Hollywood to stand on the side of gritty (read highly sexualized) cops and lawyers.

Standing on the side of our soldiers in Iraq -- the majority of whom do believe in their cause -- would be far more difficult for Bochco to defend during all those award show after-parties. Still, who knows? Maybe Over There could turn out to be that most mythical of all Hollywood's mythical creatures -- an insightful, honest look at American war and warriors. But based on the commentary surrounding it so far, I wouldn't count on it.

Megan Basham is a Phillips fellow and a reporter for NBC 9 in El Paso.


TOPICS: Culture/Society
KEYWORDS: bochco; fx; iraq; overthere; tv
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We're in for more post-modern nonsense with Steven Bochco's new "nonpartisan" series on the Iraqi conflict.

Bash 'em, Megan!

1 posted on 07/27/2005 12:01:25 PM PDT by siunevada
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To: siunevada
I've heard that the guys are pretty disgusted with this.

Unfortunately, Hollywood is not good at portraying what it doesn't understand.

2 posted on 07/27/2005 12:06:33 PM PDT by McGavin999
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To: siunevada

>>Clearer minds, however, will recognize this for its nonpartisan and successful effort..."<<
That being enlightened liberal minds, no doubt.


3 posted on 07/27/2005 12:08:08 PM PDT by travlnmn41
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To: siunevada

Another show not to watch. I turned off the boob tube years ago and am a better person for it.

If you don't like what they're peddling, don't buy the product, otherwise, you're just complaining for the sake of it.


4 posted on 07/27/2005 12:08:22 PM PDT by Owl558 (Please excuse my spelling)
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To: siunevada

It is disgraceful to try to make hay out of the current war effort while there are soldiers in the field. Positive or Negative propaganda aside, there are families out there with people in danger.

I will not be watching, nor will I be watching anything on FX.

Shameful.


5 posted on 07/27/2005 12:09:58 PM PDT by HonestConservative (Bless our Servicemen!)
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To: Owl558

FX, however, does run the series "Rescue Me," starring Dennis Leary. It's a very ranchy show, but its also a show that isn't afraid to speak some very politically incorrect truths, especially about things like affirmative action.


6 posted on 07/27/2005 12:11:37 PM PDT by Behind Liberal Lines ("I say we take off, nuke the site from orbit. It's the only way to be sure."--S. Townsley on Ithaca)
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To: McGavin999

Things like Duty, Honor, and Country.


7 posted on 07/27/2005 12:15:50 PM PDT by CAP811 (One man can change the world with a bullet in the right place)
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To: siunevada
Clearer minds, however, will recognize this for its nonpartisan and successful effort...

LOL. Oh no you don't. You can't fool me. The effort to portray this catastrophe as not slanted has been so tortured that it was obvious there was going to be c@#p like this "we're monsters" stuff in it.

8 posted on 07/27/2005 12:16:15 PM PDT by Bahbah
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To: Behind Liberal Lines

loved the part where the crew is in counseling. Leary points out that he is only a racist if he fails to carry out blacks, hispanics or oirientals.


9 posted on 07/27/2005 12:17:04 PM PDT by kendu
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Chris Matthews had a woman on last week whose husband was in Iraq. Some time after he returned, he committed suicide. It was the same old Viet Nam stuff starting up all over again. They all become addicts, wife beaters, killers or suicides. I knew they were going to pull this after GW won and here it comes.


10 posted on 07/27/2005 12:20:21 PM PDT by Bahbah
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To: Behind Liberal Lines
FX, however, does run the series "Rescue Me," starring Dennis Leary. It's a very ranchy show, but its also a show that isn't afraid to speak some very politically incorrect truths, especially about things like affirmative action.

I am not accusing you personally of the following comment as I do not know you:

Wrap a politically incorrect message in sex, violence, blasphemy, drugs and rock and roll and it the gets blessing of the South Park Republicans/Libertarians...

I know I will get flamed for this comment.

11 posted on 07/27/2005 12:21:29 PM PDT by frogjerk
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To: siunevada
Over there / George M. Cohan

Over there over there

Send the word, send the word over there

That the Yanks are coming, the Yanks are coming,

The drums rum-tumming ev'rywhere

So prepare say a pray'r

Send the word, send the word to beware

We'll be over, we're coming over,

And we won't come back till it's over over there!

12 posted on 07/27/2005 12:22:27 PM PDT by Daaave (More human, than human.®)
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To: siunevada

soldiers who pre-viewed this say: "bogus"
http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/1450812/posts


13 posted on 07/27/2005 12:24:54 PM PDT by SFC Chromey (GO FAST AND SWERVE!)
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To: Bahbah

"Chris Matthews had a woman on last week whose husband was in Iraq"
thats all I need to read, funny, i have friends and family over there, they say most issues returing with these guys were there before they shipped out.


14 posted on 07/27/2005 12:25:32 PM PDT by kendu
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To: siunevada
"Someone said tragedy was the inevitable working out of things. And the tragedy here is we're savages. We're thrilled to kill each other. We're monsters. And war is what unmasks us. But there's a kind of honor in it too. I guess if I'm a monster, it's my privilege to be one."

Excruciating. Please, please tell me this is a joke.

15 posted on 07/27/2005 12:26:13 PM PDT by Billthedrill
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To: siunevada
"Ultimately, a young man being shot at in a firefight has absolutely no interest in politics."

Boy, I have No clue exactly What brand of glue the Holly-Wierds are sniffing but It suuuuurre must be vewy srong.

16 posted on 07/27/2005 12:26:39 PM PDT by ExcursionGuy84 ("I will Declare the Beauty of The LORD.")
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To: siunevada

Time to boycott some sponsors.


17 posted on 07/27/2005 12:28:01 PM PDT by JCEccles
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To: Billthedrill

This thing is gonna flop worse than Cop Rock.


18 posted on 07/27/2005 12:31:10 PM PDT by over3Owithabrain
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To: Billthedrill

This thing is gonna flop worse than Cop Rock.


19 posted on 07/27/2005 12:31:46 PM PDT by over3Owithabrain
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To: Billthedrill

Killing terrorists, beheaders, Islamofascists, and Baathist dead enders makes our soldiers "monsters?" It makes them the good guys in my book.


20 posted on 07/27/2005 12:39:00 PM PDT by Cecily
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