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Posted on 07/30/2005 9:50:34 PM PDT by freepatriot32
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Can't really judge the facts from the liberal press account, but I don't think the castle docrine is going to help a guy who shot someone that was still in his car.
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A car is a deadly weapon.
His dad should shut his trap.
In these types of instances, I break it down like this.
Louden came to help his daughter change her tire did not seek anyone out. He was minding his own business. He and his daughter were concerned with getting the tire fixed, and getting out of there.
Vavrick drove by in his car and was seeking someone out. He drove by several times.
IMO, Louden and his daughter had every right to be fearful of the action of Vavrick.
If Vavrick who drove by heckling Louden and his daughter hadn't been there, this wouldn't have happened.
If I were the judge, I'd have to think that Vavrick driving by in the car was the instigator, and therefore more culpable.
BTW, Louden's father isn't exactly who I'd want talking to people about me in this instance. He's terrible.
Re: Liability and politics
A quick glance at LAPD’s use-of-force policy:
SHOOTING AT A MOVING VEHICLE. Firearms shall not be discharged at a moving vehicle unless a person in the vehicle is immediately threatening the officer or another person with deadly force by means other than the vehicle. For the purposes of this Section, the moving vehicle itself shall not presumptively constitute a threat that justifies an officer's use of deadly force. An officer threatened by an oncoming vehicle shall move out of its path instead of discharging a firearm at it or any of its occupants.
Dead men tell no tales.
For argument's sake: Why not just get out of the way?
Cops vs. Cars
http://www.policedriving.com/article107.htm
And the left-wing press is at it again.
I'm 90% certain this was justified. This guy is a CCW permit holder, probably NRA member, possibly a veteran, and maybe even a freeper. In other words, just like you and me.
But we all know some folks in the firearms realm who just ain't right and end up messing it up for all of us by giving the Brady bunch examples upon which to expand.
It looks like this dude's biggest mistake was confiding in his father.
dang straight...
"The elder Loudon can't help but wish his son had simply gotten out of the way."
"I don't think he would have been quite as anxious to pull the gun"
And the Brady Campaign is leaving sonic booms over the eastern sea board as they convene.
We don't really care how they do it in LA.
Cops here in Florida shoot perps often when they are using a vehicle as a deadly weapon.
And I believe that LA policy was just changed. Their loss.
The father's a dumbass. Reporter probably planted a few seed questions about the new law when talking to the father.
Funny thing is the new law doesn't take effect until Oct 1. Guess the reporter forgot that juicy part.
Besides, even under the current law, given these circumstances with his sister there, disabled vehicle, perp in his vehicle acting menacingly, I'd go with a good shoot.
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