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To: tgslTakoma
you are going to choke when you read this...I posted it last night:

Mom, Who Lost Son In Iraq, Talks About 'Disgusting' White House meeting with Bush

His eyes were empty, hollow shells and he was acting like I should be proud to be in his presence..... 

Cindy Sheehan has already had her heart ripped into a million pieces by the illegal Iraqi war, losing the son she loved more than life itself only five days after he arrived in Baghdad in April 2004. 

There is nothing more painful or more heart breaking than a parent losing a child. 

And for Sheehan to lose her 24-year-old son, Casey, must have been like someone taking her very own heart and soul and, without warning, ripping them out and throwing them into the depths of hell. 

No one should have to experience such pain, but the cold reality of war is that someone’s child actually dies and there are actual parents left living with the hopeless task of trying to cope with the pain. 

And anyone with any semblance of a heart and soul knows a mother coping with such a loss needs all the help and understanding she can get. 

Anyone with the slightest bit of compassion knows a kind word or a shoulder to cry on helps a mother, who experienced the ultimate loss, get through another day when every day feels like it could be the end of the world. 

So when Sheehan received an invitation to meet privately with President Bush at the White House two months after her son died, the least she could have expected was a bit of compassion or a kind word coming from the heart. 

But what she encountered was an arrogant man with eyes lacking the slightest bit of compassion, a President totally "detached from humanity" and a man who didn’t even bother to remember her son’s name when they were first introduced. 

Instead of a kind gesture or a warm handshake, Sheehan said she immediately got a taste of Bush arrogance when he entered the room and "in a condescending tone and with a disgusting loud Texas accent," said: "Who we’all honorin’ here today?" 

"His mouth kept moving, but there was nothing in his eyes or anything else about him that showed me he really cared or had any real compassion at all. This is a human being totally disconnected from humanity and reality. His eyes were empty, hollow shells and he was acting like I should be proud to just be in his presence when it was my son who died for his illegal war! It was one of the most disgusting experiences I ever had and it took me almost a year to even talk about it," said Sheehan in a telephone conversation from Washington D.C. where she was attending a July 4th anti-war rally. 

Sheehan said the June 2004 private meeting with the President went from bad to worse to a nightmare when Bush acted like he didn’t even want to know her name. She said Bush kept referring to her as ‘Ma’ or ‘Mom’ while he "put on a phony act," saying things like ‘Mom, I can’t even imagine losing a loved one, a mother or a father or a sister or a brother.’ 

"The whole meeting was simply bizarre and disgusting, designed to intimidate instead of providing compassion. He didn’t even know our names," said Sheehan. "Finally I got so upset I just looked him in the eye, saying ‘I think you can imagine losing someone. You have two daughters. Imagine losing them?’ After I said that he just looked at me, looked at me with no feeling or caring in his eyes at all." 

Sheehan said what really upset her about the meeting is that Bush appeared to become annoyed and even angry at her daughter Carley, 25, who also attended the White House get-together. 

"My daughter said to him directly ‘I wish I could bring my loved one back’ and he said something like ‘so do we.’ Later she told me that after he made his remark he gave her one of the filthiest looks she had ever had gotten in her life. 

"I just couldn’t believe this was happening. It was so surreal and bizarre. Later I met with some of the other 15or 16 families who were at the White House the same day and, sure enough, they all felt the same way I did. 

"It’s interesting that they put us each in separate rooms. I heard this was done to prevent any type of group outburst and since it’s easier to control a situation when people are separated. Looking back, all I can say is that the meeting with Bush was one of the most disgusting experiences in my life. 

"And I even asked him: ‘Why did you even bother to bring us here when I didn’t vote for you and don’t support the illegal nature of your war?’ He said it wasn’t political but I know it was just another one of his lies, as he probably wanted to be able to say out on the political stump that he wasn’t afraid to meet with families who lost loved one’s in the war." 

Although Sheehan was opposed to the illegal nature of the war from the outset, it wasn’t until January that she began to become politically active. 

Besides speaking at rallies and becoming known in Washington for her outspoken criticism of Bush, Sheehan formed a group called Gold Star Families For Peace, joining together families who lost loved ones in an effort to expose the illegal nature of the war and to hasten the return of troops still fighting in Iraq. 

Her involvement with the anti-war movement also led her recently to join forces with the After Downing Street movement, a civic, political and activist group seeking to open a Presidential impeachment inquiry based on the release of damaging British intelligence documents showing Bush doctored WMD intelligence reports to justify his war policy. 

"Americans need to wake up and we need to put public pressure on our leaders to end this illegal war," said Sheehan, adding that if the public remains passive, recent statements by Donald Rumsfeld that the war may last another 12 years will come true. "We can’t let these people continue to murder our children and also continue murdering innocent Iraqi citizens, now totaling more than 100.000. 

"This is an immoral war based on a false premise. Iraq was never an imminent threat and the Downing Street Memo proves Bush went to war for oil, greed and all the wrong reasons. 

Commenting on Bush’s recent speech at Ft. Bragg intended to rally America behind an unpopular war, she said: 

"He never mentioned the WMD threat and repeatedly brought up 9/11 in an attempt to scare and frighten everyone again. People have characterized the speech in many ways, but if I had to pick a few words, I would say hypocritical, manipulative, condescending, meaningless drivel." 

After the speech, Sheehan was unexpectedly invited on the CNN Larry King Show June 28, but expressed concern and outright anger over the fact she was only given 82 seconds to be "the token anti-war peace speaker" in an hour show which essentially contained a pro war message from all the other guests. 

In a recent rebuttal article placed on the Internet, expressing her displeasure with some of the CNN guests and the short time given for her anti-war message, she wrote: 

"My absolute favorite guest of the evening was Sen. John Warner, powerful chair of the Senate Armed (Disservices) Committee. Of course, he fell in lockstep behind his Führer (Bush) and praised the speech…. I sat in the Green Room with Sen. Warner's entourage. I wondered (even out loud) what price they have paid for our administration's misdeeds in Iraq. They all looked like happy, well-fed, well-dressed, well-educated, and well-hydrated Americans.…I sincerely doubt if any of them had a loved one ripped from their lives by a car bomb, IED, or bullet in an ambush. 

"I spoke with John Warner after his interview and told him unless he was prepared to sacrifice even a good night's sleep over this senseless and criminal war, then he should work on ending it, not prolonging the carnage. He told me that I was "entitled to my opinion," but he would respectfully have to disagree with me. That was awfully Constitutional of him! 

"I finally got to speak for my 82 seconds (all the time Larry King Live could spare for the peace message) about how this war is a catastrophe and how we should bring the troops home and quit forcing the 

Iraqi people to pay for our government's hubris and quit forcing innocent children to suffer so we can allegedly fight terrorism somewhere besides America. How absolutely racist and immoral is it to 

take America's battles to another land and make an entire country pay for the crimes of others? To me, this is blatant genocide. 

"After my brief advocacy for peace, my position was refuted by another mom whose son was killed in Iraq in 2003, saying she "totally disagrees" with me and "feels sorry" for me. 

"Well, you know what? I ache for her blindness and for the millions of ‘sheeple’ who have had the wool pulled over their eyes by this bunch of hypocritical, bad shepherds who are running a disastrous herd over the world. I have distressing news for the ‘Soccer Safety Moms’ and the ‘NASCAR Dads’ who are such ardent supporters of this administration and war: 

"Your grandchildren and children who will be entering Kindergarten this fall will be fighting George's endless war if he gets his way and is allowed to continue spreading the cancer of imperialism in the Middle-East…. 

"Think about it when you tuck your child into bed tonight." 

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This women was also part of Conyers kangaroo court in the copy room of the Capitol with that whole Downing Street memo BS and called her sons passing a "premeditated death".....sadly, she is exploiting the death of her son to further her own political agenda.

7 posted on 08/07/2005 8:27:43 AM PDT by God luvs America (When the silent majority speaks the earth trembles!)
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To: God luvs America
Incredible, isn't it? How can a woman's recollection of an event that happened one year ago differ so radically between now and then?
16 posted on 08/07/2005 8:34:51 AM PDT by tgslTakoma
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To: God luvs America

She sounds like your average poster on DU.

This sort of thing really makes me angry. I have to wonder if this woman ever really supported her son's decision to enter the military. If my husband was killed during either of his two deployments to Iraq, I would have been devastated. But knowing why we are in Iraq, and knowing his dedication to that cause and to protecting my freedom, I would never allow myself to be used in such a way. And I doubt that any spouse or parent of a fallen soldier would do the same, unless they already had hatred for their country and their military in their soul.

She disgraces her son.


17 posted on 08/07/2005 8:35:19 AM PDT by The Phantom FReeper (So? People in Hell want ice water.)
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To: God luvs America
‘Mom, I can’t even imagine losing a loved one, a mother or a father or a sister or a brother.’

Among the many disgusting lies in this piece of ....George Bush lost a sister, Robin I believe, when he was a young boy.

18 posted on 08/07/2005 8:36:37 AM PDT by Bahbah (Air America: kids-for-kilowatts)
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To: God luvs America

This "lady" found here a nice job the party of hate....


20 posted on 08/07/2005 8:37:53 AM PDT by Deetes (God Bless the Troops and their Family's)
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To: God luvs America
In war, you get people who vent on all sides.

The media does not want balance. They want propaganda.

Lardball with Chris Matthews would put two guests on.

->Anti-Bush Iraq Veteran versus A Pro-Bush Non-Veteran.

It must be really difficult to find a Vet proud of their Iraq service to go up against Matthews' prop. Either that or Matthews knows the anti-Bush vet would get crushed in a debate with a pro-Bush vet.

-> The five Fetnom Communication Trained (Liberal Group) anti-Bush 9-11 widows vs. pro-Bush person with no one who died on 9-11.

Debra Burlingame is a key figure in keeping the 9-11 Memorial a memorial, but she was shut out in the 2004 Election so five widows from Jersey, who were trained by a liberal communications outfit, could speak for all 9-11 family members of victims.

-> Anti-Bush parent of a Soldier who died in Iraq versus Pro-Bush person who no ties to a soldier in Iraq.

This is an equally disgusting set up. Matthews and other liberal outlets seek to justify their own anti-war/anti-Bush position by crippling the pro-Bush supporter with someone who has no commonality with them. Matthews could find many pro-Bush parents to go up against an ati-Bush parent, but he doesn't want fairness. He and many other liberals want to push propaganda.

Ultimately, as news outlets push fake setups and fake polls, the only real numbers we get are their plummeting ratings and circulation. That reflects reality and opinion more than any biased story or fake poll produced by these people to pacify their liberal audience, justify their positions, and manipulate public opinion rather than reflect it.

It's pathetic. It will continue to be done. It will continue to fail to resonate.
27 posted on 08/07/2005 8:49:42 AM PDT by new yorker 77
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To: All; God luvs America
Revisionist history:

Sheehan said the June 2004 private meeting with the President went from bad to worse to a nightmare when Bush acted like he didn’t even want to know her name. She said Bush kept referring to her as ‘Ma’ or ‘Mom’ while he "put on a phony act," saying things like ‘Mom, I can’t even imagine losing a loved one, a mother or a father or a sister or a brother.’ 

"The whole meeting was simply bizarre and disgusting, designed to intimidate instead of providing compassion. He didn’t even know our names," said Sheehan. "Finally I got so upset I just looked him in the eye, saying ‘I think you can imagine losing someone. You have two daughters. Imagine losing them?’ After I said that he just looked at me, looked at me with no feeling or caring in his eyes at all." 

Sheehan said what really upset her about the meeting is that Bush appeared to become annoyed and even angry at her daughter Carley, 25, who also attended the White House get-together.

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Some people will never be satisfied. If I read this article correctly, the whole family was invited to Fort Lewis for some recognition of their sacrifice, and the daughter also represented her family at a different event for the same purpose. Now she is at Crawford! She is a tool.

68 posted on 08/07/2005 11:40:46 AM PDT by maica (Do not believe the garbage the media is feeding you back home. ---Allegra (in Iraq))
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To: God luvs America
This women was also part of Conyers kangaroo court

Isn't Conyers the RAT that wants to start up the draft in order to get this woman's other kids?

73 posted on 08/07/2005 12:15:31 PM PDT by Mike Darancette (Mesocons for Rice '08)
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To: God luvs America

Well now I'm confused. In the first article, they met at Fort Lewis near Seattle. In the later one story, the meeting took place at the White House. Were there two meetings?


75 posted on 08/07/2005 2:28:43 PM PDT by Trust but Verify (Get over yourselves!)
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To: God luvs America
I'm confused. Did Cindy Sheehan meet President Bush twice in June 2004?


From the article at the beginning of this thread, she met the President at Fort Lewis in Washington state in June 2004:
inviting them to have a face-to-face meeting with President George W. Bush at Fort Lewis near Seattle.
...
The meeting didn't last long, but in their time with Bush, Cindy spoke
...
For a moment, life returned to the way it was before Casey died. They laughed, joked and bickered playfully as they briefly toured Seattle.


From post 7, she met the President at the White House in Washington,D.C., in June 2004:
Sheehan received an invitation to meet privately with President Bush at the White House ...
...
Later I met with some ... who were at the White House the same day and, ... they all felt the same way I did.

77 posted on 08/07/2005 2:35:21 PM PDT by heleny
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To: God luvs America
Most absurd statement in a rash of absurd statements (I've edited it down for effect):

There is nothing more painful or more heart breaking than a parent losing a child. ... No one should have to experience such pain..

I hate to break it to her, but the only parents who don't experience the death of a child are those who manage to die before them. Because EVERYBODY dies. And MANY of them die unexpectedly and often quickly.

In fact, at least as a mother of a son who was in a war zone, she had to have some knowledge that this could happen, moreso than the parent who sends her kid to horse camp only to hear that the child fell off the horse and is dead. Or that the child was hit by a drunk driver. Or the latest on my mind, the mother whose daughter simply died while swimming at a waterpark.

And there is much more support for parents who lose their children as soldiers. It is considered honorable, and they are revered and receive much more praise and sympathy.

And a 24-year-old is not really a child. It is great that mothers will always love their children, but he might have gone skydiving and had his parachute fail, he's a grown-up and had his own life.

Of course, these were just words to exploit the death of a fine young man for partisan political gain. So maybe we were not supposed to take them seriously.

81 posted on 08/07/2005 2:52:50 PM PDT by CharlesWayneCT
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To: God luvs America

All my sympathy for her has drained.


96 posted on 08/07/2005 4:10:40 PM PDT by eddie willers
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To: God luvs America

After reading Mrs. Sheehan's comments of shortly after her meeting with the President and her more recent comments which you posted, it's obvious that woman has been completely brainwashed.


114 posted on 08/07/2005 7:01:54 PM PDT by alnick
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To: God luvs America

Boy she sounds like a snot.


130 posted on 08/07/2005 11:51:22 PM PDT by HiTech RedNeck (No wonder the Southern Baptist Church threw Greer out: Only one god per church! [Ann Coulter])
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To: God luvs America

Behind his fuhrer? She has HAD to be embraced by the left with their lies and insinuations about Bush (Hitler). How dare they? She sounds like she's really gone over the edge. I feel sorry for her loss and her grief but this is wayyyyy overboard.


145 posted on 08/08/2005 10:26:34 AM PDT by Marysecretary (Thank you, Lord, for FOUR MORE YEARS!!!)
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