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1 posted on 08/11/2005 5:54:44 AM PDT by OESY
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2 posted on 08/11/2005 5:57:09 AM PDT by bitt ('We will all soon reap what the ignorant are now sowing.' Victor Davis Hanson)
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To: OESY

The 9/11 Commission was only formed to run interference for the Clinton administration. Nothing but a whitewash. The report was written before the first hearing ever occured.


3 posted on 08/11/2005 5:58:11 AM PDT by Ron in Acreage (It's the borders stupid! "ALLEN IN 08")
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Was it documents revealing the attention to Mohammed Atta during the klinton administration that Sandy Berger stuffed into his pants and socks at the Natl Archives? We KNOW Burger was one of the main players in allowing UBL to carry on unmolested and uncaptured......


5 posted on 08/11/2005 6:00:24 AM PDT by Vn_survivor_67-68
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To: OESY

So this spokesman and his staff had selective memory loss until the facts came out. That means the 9-11 Commission Report was flawed from the beginning.

This may actually be better then if he had briefed them because some of the 9-11 Commission members are livid and it shows the length the Clintonites went to in order to keep this information from being made public.

I hear Ms. Clinton's Presidential bid ticking away and headed down the sewer as more and more information is revealed about her and her husband's administration. Perfect ad -- Do you want the person(s) who allowed 9-11 to happen to be anywhere near the WH?

The MSM cannot ignore all of this forever as talk radio and other places like FR keep exposing the Clinton lies of them and their minions.


7 posted on 08/11/2005 6:01:20 AM PDT by PhiKapMom (AOII Mom -- J.C. for OK Governor in '06; Allen/Watts in 2008)
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"Furthermore," Mr. Caso said, "if Mohammed Atta was identified by the Able Danger project, why didn't the Department of Defense provide that information to the F.B.I.?"

How could anyone pose this question without a single mention of Gorelick's wall?

10 posted on 08/11/2005 6:04:07 AM PDT by Quilla
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To: OESY
This story is too big for the media to ignore,
All Conservatives need to keep the pressure on the media to find out why the Clinton administration tried to cover this up.
11 posted on 08/11/2005 6:04:16 AM PDT by pro610 (Faith the size of a mustard seed can move mountains.Praise Jesus Christ!)
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They're trying to blame the staffers.

Let's haul everyone up and have them testify UNDER OATH, and then we'll see who says what.

18 posted on 08/11/2005 6:06:52 AM PDT by mewzilla (Property must be secured or liberty cannot exist. John Adams)
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Rove's plan is coming together :-) Remember that quote from Bill Clinton the day of the attacks? "I knew it was Al Qaeda..." Perhaps, he wasn't grandstanding.


19 posted on 08/11/2005 6:08:14 AM PDT by rabidralph
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To: OESY

We need a good cartoon of Jamie plugging the Al-Qaida information flow dike since that appear to be the reality of this US disaster.

Thanks a bunch Gorelick, Reno and Sandy (I have a pants load) Burger.


32 posted on 08/11/2005 6:30:55 AM PDT by rod1
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To: OESY

NOTHING at CNN.com. That is a statement in itself.

Thankfully, I don't have TV, so I won't be aware if this story's not covered there either. Grrrr....


34 posted on 08/11/2005 6:52:51 AM PDT by LurkedLongEnough
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Hmmmm. Summer of 2000, eh? Let's see, who was Jamie Gorelick working for then? The 9/11 commission report was a coverup for slick Willie's lawyers who cleared the path for the hijackers.


37 posted on 08/11/2005 7:22:28 AM PDT by advance_copy (Stand for life, or nothing at all)
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How about John Ashcroft's live TV testimony, before the 911 Commission of pimps of the election industry? Independent of blaming this on the staff who "Didn't Tell Us", were you at all listening to what John Ashcroft was saying or did you only have him testify as a PR move?


42 posted on 08/11/2005 7:49:01 AM PDT by leprechaun9
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Please folks, be reasonable. Why would the commission looking into the Sept. 11 terrorist attacks consider it significant that intelligence data that mentioned Mohammed Atta by name might have existed. The commission was convened to see if any intelligence data existed concerning the hijackers. What did ATTA have to do with all that?

Are we really overdoing it? Are we expecting a commission to connect dots that loosely connected together?

Let's be honest, the name ATTA shouldn't have necessarily have raised any hackles in connection with this investigation. It would be just such a remote association. Besides, before this commission met, who had ever heard of Mohammed ATTA.

</sarcasm>


44 posted on 08/11/2005 8:21:09 AM PDT by putupjob
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Al Felzenberg, who served as the commission's chief spokesman, said earlier this week that staff members who were briefed about Able Danger at a first meeting, in October 2003, did not remember hearing anything about Mr. Atta or an American terrorist cell. On Wednesday, however, Mr. Felzenberg said the uniformed officer who briefed two staff members in July 2004 had indeed mentioned Mr. Atta....

Unbelieveable! NOW he remembers it, eh?

They discounted the information because it didn't "mesh" with the Clinton's idea of the "truth".

Rush is discussing this story now.

49 posted on 08/11/2005 10:19:14 AM PDT by A Citizen Reporter
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To: Senator Kunte Klinte
9/11 COMMISSION IGNORED KEY FACTS ON HIJACKERS
By Michelle Malkin · August 11, 2005 07:44 AM


The 9/11 Commission was supposed to give the America people a complete, unbiased story of the government failures that led up to the September 11 terrorist attacks. But the Commission now admits its acclaimed Final Report ignored key information provided by a U.S. Army data mining project, Able Danger, which identified Mohammed Atta and several other hijackers as potential terrorists prior to the September 11 attacks. The Able Danger team recommended that Atta and the other suspected terrorists be deported. That recommendation, however, was not shared with law enforcement officials, presumably because of the "wall" between intelligence activities and domestic law enforcement.

According to the New York Times, the 9/11 Commission officials said that Able Danger had not been included in their report because some of the information sounded inconsistent with what they thought they knew about Atta.

In other words, the Commission staffers were told about the project but ignored it because it didn't fit their pre-conceived conclusions.

Fortunately, the Commission has now 'fessed up. But not before trying to avoid blame earlier this week. Lee Hamilton, one of the Commission's co-chairs, said:

The Sept. 11 commission did not learn of any U.S. government knowledge prior to 9/11 of surveillance of Mohammed Atta or of his cell," said Hamilton, a former Democratic congressman from Indiana. "Had we learned of it obviously it would've been a major focus of our investigation."
Ed Morrissey, who has been following the story closely, comments on the Commission's blame-avoidance techniques and speculates as to why Able Danger was excluded from the Commission's report:

First we hear that no such [briefing] occurred. After that, the Commission says one might have occurred in October 2003 but that no one remembered it. Now we find out that the Commission had two meetings where [they] heard about Able Danger and its identification of Mohammed Atta, including one just before they completed their report. Instead of saying to themselves, "Hey, wait a minute -- this changes the picture substantially," and postponing the report until they could look further into Able Danger, they simply shrugged their shoulders and published what they had.
Why? Able Danger proved that at least some of the intelligence work done by the US provided the information that could have helped prevent or at least reduce the attacks on 9/11. They had identified the ringleader of the conspiracy as a terrorist agent, even if they didn't know what mission he had at the time.

What does that mean for the Commission's findings? It meant that the cornerstone of their conclusions no longer fit the facts. Able Danger showed that the US had enough intelligence to take action -- if the government had allowed law enforcement and intelligence operations to cooperate with each other. It also showed that data mining could effectively identify terrorist agents.

So what did the Commission do? It ignored those facts which did not fit within its predetermined conclusions. It never bothered to mention Able Danger even one time in its final report, even though that absolutely refuted the notion that the government had no awareness that Atta constituted a terrorist threat. It endorsed the idea of data mining (which would die in Congress as the Total Information Awareness program) without ever explaining why. And while the Clinton policy of enforcing a quarantine between law enforcement and intelligence operations came under general criticism, their report never included the fact that the "wall" for which Commission member Jamie S. Gorelick had so much responsibility specifically contributed to Atta's ability to come and go as he pleased, building the teams that would kill almost 3,000 Americans.


Morrissey expanded on the latter point in an earlier post:

Why didn't the Commission press harder for military intelligence, and if the Times' source has told the truth, why did they ignore the Able Danger operation in their deliberations? It would emphasize that the problem was not primarily operational, as the Commission made it seem, but primarily political -- and that the biggest problem was the enforced separation between law enforcement and intelligence operations upon which the Clinton Department of Justice insisted. The hatchet person for that policy sat on the Commission itself: Jamie S. Gorelick.
We will be hearing much more about this story. For blogger reactions, check out Morrissey, The Jawa Report, Baldilocks, Just One Minute, and The Anchoress. For more on Gorelick's conflict of interest, see here, here, and here.

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Updates:

Jim Geraghty says Able Danger may be one of the biggest stories to come down the pike in awhile. He's right. And check out Geraghty's takedown of 9/11 Commission's work:

[A]s for the 9/11 Commission, after all that patting themselves on the back, all that gushing praise from left, right, and center, after their work was called "miraculous" by Newsday, and the nomination for a National Book Award, and calling their own work "extraordinary"... man, these guys stink. Really, if this checks out, and the staffers had information like this and they disregarded it, never believing that we in the public deserved to know that the plot's ringleader was identified, located and recommended to be arrested a year before the attacks... boy, these guys ought to be in stocks in the public square and have rotten fruit thrown at them. What a sham.

More at Villainous Company: "The Farce Continues"
50 posted on 08/11/2005 10:32:17 AM PDT by OESY
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