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Would you like to help educate the debaters beforehand so that the Shuttle bastion of government waste can finally be removed from taxpayers' backs and the money can go to fund competitive prizes for space milestone-accomplishments, instead? The Shuttle costs $600 million per flight, which is nearly 30 times what the much safer Soyuz costs. Anyhow, regular debate participants are accessible through individualized voicemails, which can be left at extensions available at the number below:

The McLaughlin Group 1211 Connecticut Avenue Northwest, Suite 810 Washington, DC 20036 (202) 457-0870 http://www.mclaughlin.com

I just left a message advocating the NASA-funded competitive prizes proposal, and in time for the recipients to know to discuss the possibility and thereby help spark some reforms in Washington via their program (which many political types watch even during this current recess period). Isn't it remarkable that the NASA civil servants and government contractor clique haven't yet been able to coerce NBC into requiring that this subject remain taboo, at least on this show? Anyhow, here's something I also e-mailed to: comments@mclaughlin.com

Dear friends at the McLaughlin Group We're looking forward to the McLaughlin Group's show later today on NBC dedicated to "Shelving the Shuttle for good". Replacing the SHUTTLE is NOT that hard, no matter how much some with vested interests predictably try and caim: Just force NASA to offer far more adequate competitive prizes, resembling the privately funded (and therefore miniscule) $10 million dollar X Prize won by Burt Rutan last summer. NASA offers a few tiny prizes but none involving launching because we aren't adequately demanding it of them. For more information:

http://www.spaceprojects.com/prizes

And for some companies that would compete for Shuttle-replacement (or at least displacement) prizes, or support others that do:

http://www.SpaceX.com (owned by PayPal co-founder Elon Musk);

http://www.blueorigin.com/ (owned by Amazon.com co-founder Jeff Bezos);

http://www.scaled.com/ (Burt Rutan's company that won the XPrize: http://www.XPrize.org )

http://www.bigelowaerospace.com/ (they need for affordable access to emerge to their upcoming space stations).

http://www.armadilloaerospace.com (electronic games-entrepreneur John Carmack's company)

1 posted on 08/12/2005 10:23:15 PM PDT by Shuttle Shucker
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To: anymouse; KevinDavis

Could this media breakthrough signal the dawn of the space age for ordinary folks like us?


2 posted on 08/12/2005 10:25:40 PM PDT by Shuttle Shucker (At $600 million per flight, 25 times more than what a Soyuz costs, ain't it a bargain?)
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To: Shuttle Shucker
At least it's a break from the usual Bush Bash with only Tony Blakeley on our side.

I can't even watch this crap fest anymore. And to think I used to look forward to it.

3 posted on 08/12/2005 10:28:46 PM PDT by SoCar (I fully support John Roberts.)
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To: Shuttle Shucker

I say send it out one last time...with the McLaughlin Group on it...with a one way ticket. Maybe Blankley can stay behind.


4 posted on 08/12/2005 10:32:42 PM PDT by NathanBookman (Will this hurt Bush's re-election chances?)
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To: Shuttle Shucker

You aren't by any chance biased, are you?


5 posted on 08/12/2005 10:35:37 PM PDT by paul51 (11 September 2001 - Never forget)
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To: Shuttle Shucker
Maybe they should debate on whether or not to have the McLaughlin Group anymore. Bye-Bye!
8 posted on 08/12/2005 10:39:55 PM PDT by pepperhead (Kennedy's float, Mary Jo's don't!)
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To: Shuttle Shucker

There's no doubt in my mind that McLaughlin's dramatic lurch to the left is the only thing that keeps this worthless and irrelevant show on the air at PBS.


19 posted on 08/12/2005 11:02:50 PM PDT by denydenydeny ("As a Muslim of course I am a terrorist"--Sheikh Omar Brooks, quoted in the London Times 8/7/05)
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To: Shuttle Shucker

"Issue 3, Shuttle Scuttle Rebuttal, I ask you..............Mor-ton...."


27 posted on 08/12/2005 11:47:12 PM PDT by LRS
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To: Shuttle Shucker
The Shuttle costs $600 million per flight, which is nearly 30 times what the much safer Soyuz costs.

But Soyuz can't get the job done. It doesn't have the heavy-lift capacity to finish the space station. And though Soyuz is a solid, tested (to say the least) program, I'm not comfortable with leaving manned space flight wholly dependent on the Russians.

Other than that, I'm with you -- fast-track, competitive bids for the next-generation craft. There's a good argument that heavy-lift cargo and crew transport should be two separate programs -- we need tractor-trailers, but it isn't a sensible vehicle for my daily commute.

Assuming that they can solve the foam problem, I'd keep flying the shuttle until the station is finished, but fast-track the replacement(s). There's no good reason we shouldn't have been looking to replace the shuttle at least ten years ago.

29 posted on 08/13/2005 1:39:31 AM PDT by ReignOfError
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To: Shuttle Shucker
The McLaughlin Group

Pompous asses bloviating.

36 posted on 08/13/2005 9:27:56 AM PDT by verity (Big Dick Durbin is still a POS)
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To: Shuttle Shucker

The McLaughlin Group is about as qualified to pontificate upon the Shuttle program as a petrie dish full of bacteria is qualified to discuss "culture" (groan).

Tony needs to find himself a classier program to be affiliated with.


50 posted on 08/13/2005 4:28:16 PM PDT by Mad Mammoth (Gunny Ermey: "What do you MEAN, IF Jesus was a Marine? He IS a MARINE! The Toughest One Of Em All!")
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To: RightWhale; Brett66; xrp; gdc314; anymouse; RadioAstronomer; NonZeroSum; jimkress; discostu; ...

53 posted on 08/14/2005 7:57:03 AM PDT by KevinDavis (the space/future belongs to the eagles --> http://www.cafepress.com/kevinspace1)
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To: Shuttle Shucker

McLaughlin is one of the most moronic, narcissist "personalities" currently on the tube.

However, deflating the space balloon should be the goal of everyone. It has been turned into a bureaucratic group of fumblers that throw money at every problem and generally without results.


55 posted on 08/14/2005 9:10:50 AM PDT by hgro (ews)
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To: Shuttle Shucker

59 posted on 08/14/2005 1:40:00 PM PDT by Zuben Elgenubi
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