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Couple Accused Of Locking Child In Dog Cage
ClickOnDetroit ^ | 07/29/05

Posted on 08/13/2005 8:18:02 AM PDT by RoyalsFan

CLINTON TOWNSHIP, Mich. -- Two foster parents are accused of putting a 9-year-old girl in a dog cage as a form of discipline.

The Clinton Township couple is expected to face charges of second-degree child abuse Friday for the alleged incident, according to Local 4.

Police said the girl asked permission to go to a friend's home, but the foster parents would not allow her to go. The child ran away, and the foster parents went to retrieve the girl from the neighbor's house, Local 4 reported.

The parents then allegedly put the child in a large dog crate and left the house for about an hour in an attempt to teach her a lesson, according to the station's report.

The parents returned and released the girl, who returned to the neighbor's house and told them what occurred. The neighbors called police.

The girl and another child who live in the foster home were placed in protective custody. The children were not harmed, according to Local 4.

Neighbor Eric Gochlowski said the discipline allegedly used by the foster parents would have never entered his mind.

"That's uncalled for," said Goclowski. "I can't even think of using my hand to discipline my kid, let alone stick him in a box."


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1 posted on 08/13/2005 8:18:02 AM PDT by RoyalsFan
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To: RoyalsFan

I knew Clinton was involved.


2 posted on 08/13/2005 8:19:54 AM PDT by CAWats (I will bless those that bless thee and curse those that curse thee)
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To: RoyalsFan

3 posted on 08/13/2005 8:22:59 AM PDT by Andy from Beaverton (I only vote Republican to stop the Democrats)
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To: RoyalsFan

Moonbat city.


4 posted on 08/13/2005 8:25:31 AM PDT by The Red Zone (Florida, the sun-shame state, and Illinois the chicken injun.)
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To: RoyalsFan

Now did the 9 year old object to using the dog crate for trips to Disneyworld. Probably had a good time in the cargo hold....


5 posted on 08/13/2005 8:28:12 AM PDT by evolved_rage
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To: evolved_rage

??


6 posted on 08/13/2005 8:29:44 AM PDT by Gunrunner2
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To: Gunrunner2

Just a bad joke.


7 posted on 08/13/2005 8:33:07 AM PDT by evolved_rage
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To: RoyalsFan

Whenever I read stories like this (and they seem to be frequent) I always can't help but wonder the reasons these foster children were removed from their biological parents.


8 posted on 08/13/2005 8:36:36 AM PDT by Drew68 (IYAOYAS! Semper Gumby!)
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I think people used to discipline their kids by putting them in closets for awhile. Never happened to me, but I got tied to a chair in a corner. I was put on the clothesline on a leash, and for awhile was on a leash when we went shopping because I constantly wandered off. I was hyperactive and probably drove my mother nuts and my father was away in the war. My mother had a toddler and a baby to raise all by herself for 4 years.

I'm glad I was never put on Ridlin or caused humiliation to my parents by having a social worker coming to the house. Didn't have much of that then. I don't think I would have ratted on my parents like kids do today.

As I grew older, I was the one my mother could count on to do errands for her, help with the washing, hang clothes on the line, take them down again, vacuum, burn the trash (imagine that!), start the charcoal fire on hot days (with kindling - no petrochemical starter) and cook the hambergers, steaks, fish, set the table neatly for company, polish the silver, do some ironing (some on those things called mangels). I was not overworked and was terrible when it came time to clean my room and seldom had to do dishes.

The dog cage incident may have been a little excessive, especially if the child thought she had been abandoned when the parents left the house.

9 posted on 08/13/2005 8:37:07 AM PDT by Aliska
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My 10 yo crawled in the dog's crate the other day and got stuck. I was laughing so hard--I made him wait while I took a picture before I got him out.

Arrest me.


10 posted on 08/13/2005 8:39:12 AM PDT by pa mom
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The parents then allegedly put the child in a large dog crate and left the house for about an hour in an attempt to teach her a lesson,

Leaving the home was a mistake and falls under child endangerment. Locking her up... well she did just run away. But a dog crate seems excessive.

11 posted on 08/13/2005 8:41:15 AM PDT by Harmless Teddy Bear (When I walk into Sanctuary the band plays "Sweet Home Alabama")
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To: thompsonsjkc; odoso; animoveritas; DaveTesla; mercygrace; Laissez-faire capitalist; ...

Moral Absolutes Ping.

There have been many stories of child abuse of varying degrees of cruelty lately (there are always such stories, but they seem to be on the upswing lately). This story is not among the worst, the child is whole and still alive. But a couple of thoughts (also connected with an editorial I will ping out next):

1. If children, before birth, are merely abortable tissue, when does the magic change to "human" occur? The value of human life is diminished all across the board if some of of so little value that they can be killed with impunity. Evidence of this is that child abuse has not lessened since Planned Parenthood's "Every Child a Wanted Child" method of aborticide has become legitimate; in fact it has increased.

2. Mass culture influences children in the form of cartoons, movies, pop culture of every kind, slut clothes, and not the least, the leftist anti-family propaganda that saturates much of public school education. All this combined brings children to the lowest common denominator. How many parents have experienced that their small children are reasonably well-behaved and innocent, only to find that a few years of public school and immersion in mass culture (and hanging out with other kids with the same influences) and their children are now profane, insolent, worldly wise, wise-a**ses?

3. With so many marriages broken, with one third of all children in the US born to unmarried mothers (around 75% and up for black children), so many mothers even of tiny infants working and placing their 2 week old babies in day care, is it any wonder that many children are very, very ill-behaved? An ill-behaved child is a miserable child.

4. Horrible treatment to a child is often irreparable. Even kindly, loving parents who know how to disicpline properly can fail with a foster or adoptive child who has had several years of abuse and/or neglect.

The future of the world depends on children who are raised to be proper humans. We are failing egregiously in this regard as a country.

Many of you may be saying, but there are millions of well-raised children who aren't like this.

To this I say: There are millions of children who are so messed up that they will have a very, very difficult time growing into responsible, generally happy adults who will become good parents. It is a terrible tragedy.

Freepmail me if you want on/off this pinglist.


12 posted on 08/13/2005 8:41:40 AM PDT by little jeremiah (A vitiated state of morals, a corrupted public conscience, are incompatible with freedom. P. Henry)
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To: Aliska
The dog cage incident may have been a little excessive, especially if the child thought she had been abandoned when the parents left the house.

I agree. What works for my kid might not work on yours, and an hour incarceration for a nine year old doesn't seem excessive. Leaving the house is excessive.

"That's uncalled for," said Goclowski. "I can't even think of using my hand to discipline my kid, let alone stick him in a box."

If his kid is the friend she wanted to visit, I'd not allow it, either. The poor little girl likly never had the discipline she needs, and playing with an undisciplined brat is the last thing she needs.

13 posted on 08/13/2005 8:55:38 AM PDT by magslinger (Gun control laws are like OSHA for criminals-Thomas Sowell)
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Dog crates are for dogs NOT children. They treated this child like an animal, they should be put into a dog crate and left there for a day. See how they like it.


14 posted on 08/13/2005 8:56:13 AM PDT by micho
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To: pa mom

My 8 year old is forever going into our dog's crate and locking himself in. I have to shoo him out to give the dog a chance!!


15 posted on 08/13/2005 9:11:24 AM PDT by KosmicKitty (Well... There you go again!)
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To: RoyalsFan

C.P.S has used flimsy excuses( there were dirty dishes in the sink ,there were crumbs on the table) in the past to a separate kids from their real parents.I know of one case where a foster child tried to run home to his real parents.If this is one of those cases the actions of the foster parents were inexcusable.


16 posted on 08/13/2005 9:23:04 AM PDT by after dark
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17 posted on 08/13/2005 9:29:00 AM PDT by jmq
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No that harness is not abuse.

The alternative is to make your child hold your hand while out in public.

You walk around for an hour with your hand up in the air. Now that is abuse.

sorry for the rant.

18 posted on 08/13/2005 9:33:28 AM PDT by Harmless Teddy Bear (When I walk into Sanctuary the band plays "Sweet Home Alabama")
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To: pa mom
I made him wait while I took a picture before I got him out.

LOL. I hope you used a digital camera so as not to take the film somewhere to get developed or you might find the child-welfare services paying you a visit!

19 posted on 08/13/2005 9:37:02 AM PDT by Drew68 (IYAOYAS! Semper Gumby!)
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To: pa mom
My 10 yo crawled in the dog's crate the other day and got stuck. I was laughing so hard--I made him wait while I took a picture before I got him out. Arrest me.

That's funny. Too many people today are too series.

20 posted on 08/13/2005 9:41:38 AM PDT by Cobra64
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