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Building a foundation for space settlement
The Space Review ^ | 08/22/05 | Sam Dinkin

Posted on 08/21/2005 6:56:53 PM PDT by KevinDavis

Launch industry revenue was just $2.8 billion worldwide last year according to the Satellite Industry Association. Pathetic. That is just five thousandths of one percent of the global $55-trillion economy. In contrast, we just had a highway bill authorizing federal spending of nearly $50 billion a year on roads for the US alone. Subsidizing space like the highway system would be a good idea (see “Don’t wait for cheap orbital access”, The Space Review, April 25, 2005). But at this point, doubling or tripling launch activity could be achieved by a remarkably small portion of the economy’s income.

If space enthusiasts starting donating a portion of their estate to a foundation that would use it to subsidize space access, launches would rise. How many will join Elon Musk in calling for the colonization of Mars? I, of course, prefer the Moon (see “Colonize the Moon before Mars”, The Space Review, September 7, 2004.) Both will take a bunch of money on an individual scale, but next to nothing on a global scale. $100 billion a year would probably accomplish both. US baby boomers had about $362,000 each back in 1998. By the time they die around 2035, on average, they will probably each pass on an estate worth a million or more. In 2001, bequests to charities were $16 billion, which was about 29% of the net worth of the people who made the bequests.

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TOPICS: Miscellaneous; News/Current Events
KEYWORDS: space; spacesettlement

1 posted on 08/21/2005 6:56:53 PM PDT by KevinDavis
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2 posted on 08/21/2005 6:57:11 PM PDT by KevinDavis (the space/future belongs to the eagles --> http://www.cafepress.com/kevinspace1)
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To: KevinDavis
Dinkin shoots, he . . . misses, again.

Nobody is going to colonize outer space. There might be a monastery on Mars in less than a century, but nothing more. Likewise, no corporation with the wherewithal is going to set aside $20 billion for twenty years just to move its mining/refining industry into outer space.

The reason? Lack of private property rights.

3 posted on 08/21/2005 7:21:20 PM PDT by RightWhale (Withdraw from the 1967 UN Outer Space Treaty and open the Land Office)
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The property rights treaty is going to be ignored and wither away....


4 posted on 08/21/2005 7:22:46 PM PDT by KevinDavis (the space/future belongs to the eagles --> http://www.cafepress.com/kevinspace1)
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To: KevinDavis

The Treaty ought to be done away with. Do it clean, not like the American West was settled.


5 posted on 08/21/2005 7:24:57 PM PDT by RightWhale (Withdraw from the 1967 UN Outer Space Treaty and open the Land Office)
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I prefer how the American West was settled....


6 posted on 08/21/2005 7:28:12 PM PDT by KevinDavis (the space/future belongs to the eagles --> http://www.cafepress.com/kevinspace1)
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To: KevinDavis

I wouldn't mind being on your space ping list, if that is at all possible.

Thanks.


7 posted on 08/21/2005 7:29:26 PM PDT by Sam Cree (Democrats are herd animals)
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To: KevinDavis

Grant screwed up. Worst Pres of all time. When Congress finally got around to closing the West to mining and entry officially, they left a bunch of disgruntled people, many of whose greatgrandchildren still feel the same. Take the temperature of Alaskans. Same thing will happen in outer space. They could do it right in the first place.


8 posted on 08/21/2005 7:33:20 PM PDT by RightWhale (Withdraw from the 1967 UN Outer Space Treaty and open the Land Office)
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How far would we be in Space if we had continued with the same speed we had during the Apollo Moon Landings? Would we have a base on the moon, mars? What discoveries ?
9 posted on 08/21/2005 7:48:50 PM PDT by TomasUSMC (FIGHT LIKE WW2, FINISH LIKE WW2. FIGHT LIKE NAM, FINISH LIKE NAM.)
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To: KevinDavis

Space will be colonized...by the Chinese. The have a population problem and a growing industrial base. We have compassionate conservatism.


10 posted on 08/21/2005 7:54:51 PM PDT by Old_Mil
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To: KevinDavis

Could I be on your ping list?


11 posted on 08/21/2005 7:56:48 PM PDT by zahal724 (We use words to describe things. If it confuses you I suggest a Dictionary.)
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To: KevinDavis
Ques; Whats WORSE than living in the Sahara desert.?.

Ans; Living on the Moon or worse Mars..

** Three important things about real estate. Location, Location, LOCATION..

12 posted on 08/21/2005 8:22:11 PM PDT by hosepipe (This Propaganda has been edited to include not a small amount of Hyperbole..)
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Who knows...


13 posted on 08/21/2005 8:39:51 PM PDT by KevinDavis (the space/future belongs to the eagles --> http://www.cafepress.com/kevinspace1)
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To: RightWhale
The Treaty ought to be done away with. Do it clean, not like the American West was settled.

One minor problem: where there's property, there's government involvement. Where there's government involvement, there's military or para-military involvement. Where there's military or para-military involvement, other nations get nervous and arm their outbound military and para-military contingents even more. Got a mini-arms race going...and both sides get twitchy. And when people get twitchy and the inevitable catastrophic accident occurs (as they will in space), international crises immediately follow...only now it's international and interplanetary.

Consider how quickly that would spiral out of control...especially if we're on Mars butting heads with the Chinese.

That's why there ain't ever gonna be private property in space.

14 posted on 08/21/2005 8:41:52 PM PDT by Prime Choice (E=mc^3. Don't drink and derive.)
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How far would we be in Space if we had continued with the same speed we had during the Apollo Moon Landings? Would we have a base on the moon, mars? What discoveries ?

If we had continued our pace with the Apollo program, I'm convinced we would have had remote-controlled gliders on Mars in time for the 100-year anniversary of aviation. And there is no doubt that we would have had a year-round staffing of a lunar base by 1984 at the latest.

But that's just my opinion.

15 posted on 08/21/2005 8:44:49 PM PDT by Prime Choice (E=mc^3. Don't drink and derive.)
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To: Prime Choice
Yeah I think so too. AND to think we put 12 men and 2 SUVs on the moon while fighting the Vietnam war. Oh, and we had computers but no personal computers.

I'd say we would have had many space stations floating around out there and we would have discovered many types of new chemistry microlife on Mars as the Viking lander showed us back in 1975
16 posted on 08/21/2005 8:54:46 PM PDT by TomasUSMC (FIGHT LIKE WW2, FINISH LIKE WW2. FIGHT LIKE NAM, FINISH LIKE NAM.)
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To: Prime Choice
That's why there ain't ever gonna be private property in space.

And that is why there will never be space development or space settlements. We're stuck on earth forever or until we burn the place down whichever comes first.

17 posted on 08/22/2005 7:48:30 AM PDT by RightWhale (Withdraw from the 1967 UN Outer Space Treaty and open the Land Office)
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