Posted on 08/28/2005 6:57:43 AM PDT by Skylab
I use standard God test strips, with confirmation from mass spectrometry if necessary. The strips have a high rate of false positives.
Since we know the grass needs the sun in order to live, there could not have been a long period of time between days."
1. [23] And the city had no need of the sun, neither of the moon, to shine in it: for the glory of God did lighten it, and the Lamb is the light thereof.
It's even worse than that. Young Earth creationists can't believe in Nuclear Physics. Many, many different items within nuclear physics, such as sun fusion information, nuclear half life issues, on and on. I'd hate to disagree with these folks, who theorized they could build really big bombs by using their knowledge, and proved it by making them work.
YECers can't believe in simple mathematics. Because they don't believe the number of layers of sediment that you can count in deep mine shafts and well cores.
They don't believe in plate tectonics. Where we can measure how fast the plates are moving, and compute how long it took the plate to move from point A to point B. Or how long it took to raise the Himalayas, that we know are growing by a certain amount, and we know how high they are, enabling us to measure how long they've been growing.
Young Earth Creationists just have to throw out all of science. All of it. There's virtually no field of science that doesn't have some bearing, or method of measuring, how old the earth is.
All those fields of science agree almost perfectly with one another, which shows either a vast conspiracy, or they've got the right answer. While YECers and Christians have hundreds of different variations on their beliefs, meaning you can discount all of them.
In a word, "Yes".
Not necessarily. Death and suffering are not themselves evil (not-good), only people can be evil in the traditional sense.
"Furthermore, if in fact there was death in the world before Adam,..."
No, not that kind of death. Before they ate from the tree of knowledge they had no knowledge of death (death as a sinister happening). As for physical death, it's just another form of change. If change didn't happen during and before the creation of Adam and Eve, Adam and Eve themselves would never come into existence!
In order for point A to progress toward point B, point A must first begin.
My bad. I misunderstood your post.
Have a good one.......
Great post.
[It is really hard for me to get from crystals or little oily spheres to DNA in the short span of years allowed by the Geological and Paleontological records of the planet.]
One billion years is a SHORT span of years?
[The sticking point I have with most scientific evolutionists is their scoffing at the possibility of a divine creator. Why must science insist on the absence of God? Why is any belief in creation labeled as ignorant mythology? Why are religious people stereotyped as weak minds by the scientists?]
I think it's fair to say (especially after reading the sampling of replys on this thread) that most evolutionists are accepting of religious faith and don't look down on its practitioners, and many, if not most evolutionists are people of faith themselves.
It would be more accurate to say that those who reject evolutionary theory do so because they believe in the literal word of the Bible and in the idea that anyone who doesn't share this specific faith is a "fool".
For a goodly part of that first billion years the Earth was a REALLY nasty place.
It's interesting to me (but not altogether surprising) that the only person quoted here that answers unequivocally no to the question of whether God and evolution are compatible is the YEC. I think Pinker's response, which might very well be taken by some for a no, is more of a nonresponsive answer. He doesn't tackle the question of the compatibility of God and evolution, but rather just states his own position of atheism. He basically is just saying that belief in X and belief in God are incompatible, no matter what X may be.
whos standard do you use to define "evil"
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