Posted on 08/28/2005 11:55:00 AM PDT by Mazepa
23 August
Scandal - Zhirinovsky: "Yushchenko is worse than Hitler," his wife is "Banderian’s daughter" and all Ukrainians will be exiled to Siberia
Lvovskaya Gazeta reports that Vladimir Zhirinovsky the leader of Liberal-Democratic Party of Russia (LDPR) made Anti-Ukrainian speech at the picket being held by his party before the Embassies of Georgia, Ukraine and Israel in Moscow.
Zhirinovsky menaced Ukraine with Apocalypses because of "Viktor Yushchenko is worse than Hitler," who was more honest than Ukrainian President and because of "his wife is the daughter of Banderian who eloped to America.
Zhirinovsky stated also that Hitler "opened Russian schools and churches," and Yushchenko "closed Russian Orthodox churches."
He strongly recommended Ukrainian politicians "not to forget Russia language because they will need it to answer the questions of Russian investigators in Lubyanka."
"We will exile all of you in Siberia, you will not be shot because Ukrainians will be used as frozen museum pieces," threatened Liberal-Democrat.
Zhirinovsky mentioned that "to study Ukrainian for Russians living in Ukraine is a flout; it does not happened in any country all over the world." Ukraine is "a part of Russian Empire. Lvov will be a capital of small Ukrainian state and let them develop their culture if any."
He warns that "all Russians of the Earth will come back to Moscow." "You have become insolent here in Ukraine, Yushchenko will be punished, it has influenced his health condition already, it was done by Ukrainian patriots," stated Zhirinovsky.
The newspaper also mentions that "Zhirinovsky is one of the ten high officials of Russian that is why it may be proposed that his voice is the voice of official Russian power."
LDPR picketers were guarded by two tens of policemen. All journalists had to pass in their Ida and the foreign ones - accreditation cards.
What a nut!
At best, you could say he's scaring foreigners so as to make Putin look like Gandhi. However he's not being a buffoon just with us russophones :)- there's that infamous on-air fighting some years ago. ==
Now you get it right:).
Those foreigners who traveled in Russia just once and who has open mind would be never never scared by Zhirik.
Since they know how much his estapades are different from reality.
But russophobes who learn about Russia from articles of Ion Pacepa, are scared by Zhirik's stunts. Which is very very good:))).
His fightings just with so called "pro-westerners" whom he paints as "traitors". It is just part of his game.
He voluntarily took his role and play it as he think best.
Spanalot as I see is very disappointed to learn that Zhirik just fooled him:). You see Serge some people are never learn:)>
Ukrainians of Russian culture- that's what you mean? ==
Some ukranians as they call themselves are uniates from former austirian or polish territories. They are no way people of russian culture.
But some "ukranians" who from former NovvoRossia are just southern russians. They wouldn't never become as those first. More ukrnazi propaganda will try to convert them then bigger will be boom later. More force will be used against them bigger will be hate back.
Those people withstanded soviet propaganda, ukrnazi propaganda is much lesser then that.
Accually we all know that Ukraine splitted on 2 parts now.
Russia in comparison is very united state then Ukraine.
With all confidence I can say I'm familiar with the Russian culture- until 91 Ukraine and Russia were together. ==
As far As I understood you are kind of "canadian ukranian" right?
Then I with probable confidence may say that you may learn some soviet culture by books and mistook it as "russian". Am I right?:)
For one, why would you call those in NovoRussia southern Russians if from the time the region was first was colonized in 18-19th centuries up till now, ethnic Ukrainians were a majority? ==
Now I don't know where to start:)).
Firstly, NovvoRossia was conqured by russian troops. Not "ukranian" or else. Wasn't it?
So since it was conquered by russian army then terrirory was populated by Ekaterina the Great.
People for population was mixed. Some are from some regions of Velikorossia(Great Russia) and from Malayarossia, Bellorossia and so on.
SO it is new region whose population maybe called as southern russians hence they are far from uniates of Western Ukraine then neoboring russian population.
Today there is attempt to make them ukarinians by forceful ukrainization. The result will be negative for sure. Those people overlived soveitization already. Ukrainization will be easier to overcome.
As far as I know the use of russian language increases on those territory not decreases as it supposed to in spite of ukrainization.
It is direct cause that people oppose forceful ukrainization.
So let live then let see:).
Obviously.
Or at least I thought it was obvious.
OK, I'll spell it out for you.
Zhirinovsky = Nut
SO it is new region whose population maybe called as southern russians hence they are far from uniates of Western Ukraine then neoboring russian population
Who's talking about Uniates (they were in an entirely different country). Colonists from Chernihiv-Kyiv-Poltava (Ukrainians) neighboring these lands became the majority here.
Also for some reason you continue to demonize Soviets while they proved to be much more beneficial to Russians than Ukrainians. You say eastern+southern Ukraine was Russian before the revolution, subjected to Ukrainization thanks to SU, but now its Russians roots are still strong. I say it was Ukrainian before the revolution, Russified during SU, that's why they're Sovki/pro-Russian now. I'm right, you're wrong.
I do agree, let's see how it'll be in 20 years. I suspect the longer Russia and Ukraine are separate, the more this portion of the Ukrainian population will view RF as foreign.
As far as I know the use of russian language increases on those territory not decreases as it supposed to in spite of ukrainization.
Haven't heard this one, but it sounds like a propoganda lie.
Feel free to browse through national compositions of Ukraine's regions in this last census. Even most (57%) of Donets'k oblast' said they're Ukrainian.
HAHAHA
It's just that I and RusIvan got into a discussion, i though you were taking sides.
Well, they do call themselves Liberal Democrats....
Zhirinovsky has always been a fool in the eyes of many Russians. He has been known to make the most outrageous statements. Make note: his party has little to no support from the population--my estimate is less than 3% of people-- and that is because he pays the nationalist card.
why did Lebed have to die, why not that nutcase??? he
He almost reminds me Chucky Schumer.
You say eastern+southern Ukraine was Russian before the revolution, subjected to Ukrainization thanks to SU, but now its Russians roots are still strong. I say it was Ukrainian before the revolution, Russified during SU, that's why they're Sovki/pro-Russian now. I'm right, you're wrong. ==
I think opposite to your conclusion:).
I do agree, let's see how it'll be in 20 years. I suspect the longer Russia and Ukraine are separate, the more this portion of the Ukrainian population will view RF as foreign. ===
I don't think so. If you remember our mutual history from Kiev Rus to today. Then you may recall few periods when Moscow's Rus and what we call now "ukraine" (border land) was separate then united again then now separate.
But accually I see no problems here. Germany and Austria live separate now but they both germanic nations and during history they was togethre and separate time to time.
So Russia, Ukraine and Bellorus may live separate now and I think each of us better to live by thier own households. At least russians want to live now by thier own household.
But they all are Rus's nations came from one root like 2 branches on one tree and alwyas will be.
They no more foreign to each other then Germany to Austria. DO you agree?
They got 11,5% in the last parliamentary elections (2003) and they are the third largest party after Putin’s “United Russia” (37,6%) and the communists (12,6%).
No they got these 11,5% as a Liberal Democratic Party of Russia.
Regardless, I have not met a Russian who supported Zhirinovsky's crazy ideas.
I have not met either. That is one of the reasons that I think that Russian elections was rigged. Zhirinivsky has such role in Putin’s regime to make controversial statements. As a member of “oppositionist” party he can do what he want, and Putin is not the one to blame. On the other hands, more Russian voters seeing that he is an idiot (like “Rodina” and the communist ) vote for “United Russia”, the only “reliable” party. (democratic opposition is marginalized in Kremlin’s controlled media outlets) In fact Zhirinovsky supports eventual Putin’s attempt for the third cadency. So despite his idiotic statements (far from official Kremlin line) he is still cheering for Putin.
However there is popular saying that whatever Zhirinovsky talking, Kremlin is thinking. :-)
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