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Western states sue feds over decision to open pristine forests
ap on Monterey Herald ^ | 8/31/05 | Terence Chea - ap

Posted on 08/31/2005 9:20:01 AM PDT by NormsRevenge

SAN FRANCISCO - California, New Mexico and Oregon sued the Bush administration over the government's decision to allow road building, logging and other commercial ventures on more than 90,000 square miles of the nation's remaining pristine forests.

In the lawsuit filed Tuesday, attorneys general for the three states challenged the U.S. Forest Service's repeal of the Clinton administration's "roadless rule" that banned development on 58.5 million acres of national forest land, mostly in western states.

"The Bush administration is putting at risk some of the last, most pristine portions of America's national forests," California Attorney General Bill Lockyer said. "Road building simply paves the way for logging, mining and other kinds of resource extraction."

In January 2001, just eight days before he left office, President Clinton put almost one-third of the nation's 192 million acres of national forest land off-limits to road construction, winning praise from conservation groups and criticism from the timber industry.

Those roadless areas included more than 6,800 square miles in California, about 2,500 square miles in New Mexico and nearly 3,000 square miles in Oregon.

But in May, the Bush administration replaced the regulation with a new policy requiring states to work with the Forest Service to decide how to manage individual forests. Governors were given 18 months either to petition the agency to keep their states' forests protected or to open the undeveloped areas to roads and development.

Mark Rey, the Agriculture Department's undersecretary for natural resources and environment, called Tuesday's lawsuit "unfortunate and unnecessary."

"The quickest way to provide permanent protection is through the development of state-specific rules, not by resuscitating the 2001 rule," Rey said.

He pointed out that the Clinton-era rule has been struck down in federal court. In 2003, a federal judge in Wyoming ruled that the executive branch had overstepped its authority by effectively creating wilderness areas on U.S. Forest Service land. In July, the 10th U.S. Circuit Court of Appeals dismissed environmentalists' appeal of that ruling, saying the new Bush rule made the issue moot.

In Tuesday's lawsuit, filed in federal court in San Francisco, the states allege that the Bush administration's repeal of the roadless rule violated federal law because the government didn't conduct a complete analysis of the new regulation's environmental impact.

"The federal government acknowledges that road-building and timber harvest will result in decreased water quality, increased sediment and pollutants, yet they refuse to protect our state's few remaining pristine areas," New Mexico Attorney General Patricia Madrid said.

Environmentalists praised Tuesday's challenge to the Bush administration. They said remote roadless forests contain some of the country's best drinking water, wildlife habitat and recreational areas.

"Whether it's the Sierra in California or the Cascades in Oregon, I think we owe it to our children and grandchildren to keep chain saws and bulldozers out of these places," said Steven Pedery, wildlands advocate for the Oregon Natural Resources Council.

But Chris West, vice president of the American Forest Resource Council, said the lawsuit was politically motivated, pointing out that the three attorneys general were Democrats.

"It's just ironic that the states are given all the opportunity in the new rule to determine what's in the interest of the lands within their states and they don't want to take that on," West said. "This is all about politics and not about protecting wildlife, watersheds and forests.

Elliot Marks, a natural resources policy adviser to Washington Gov. Christine Gregoire, said Washington did not the join the suit because officials learned of it too late to review it. But he said Gregoire supports restoration of the 2001 Clinton rule.

Gregoire said last month she would work to protect most, if not all, of roadless areas protected by the Clinton rule.


TOPICS: Business/Economy; Crime/Corruption; Extended News; Government; Politics/Elections; US: California; US: New Mexico; US: Oregon
KEYWORDS: decision; forests; open; pristine; roadlessrule; sue; westernstates
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Better to just let it All burn next time than harvest what was put there by our Creator.
1 posted on 08/31/2005 9:20:02 AM PDT by NormsRevenge
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To: NormsRevenge

Hey Lefties, if you want to protect the environment, don't give it to the goverment, BUY IT.


2 posted on 08/31/2005 9:21:41 AM PDT by AdamSelene235 (Truth has become so rare and precious she is always attended to by a bodyguard of lies.)
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To: NormsRevenge

Why can't we just sell off the National Forests and BLM land?

If the Envirowhackos want it so badly, let them pay for it.


3 posted on 08/31/2005 9:21:41 AM PDT by Hermann the Cherusker
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To: Hermann the Cherusker
Why can't we just sell off the National Forests and BLM land?

Because the Govt. doesn't own the land. It's public land. To sell it would be out-and-out fraud. ...wait, maybe the Govt. will sell. :-/

4 posted on 08/31/2005 9:24:19 AM PDT by TChris ("You tweachewous miscweant!" - Elmer Fudd)
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To: NormsRevenge
There is no such thing as a "pristine" forest. Only older, ready to burn, stands of scrag and downfall.
5 posted on 08/31/2005 9:25:58 AM PDT by xcamel (Deep Red, stuck in a "bleu" state.)
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To: NormsRevenge


I live on Long Island. We keep the forests around our highways somewhat. It's actually very nice to drive through a highway and be surrounded by trees.


6 posted on 08/31/2005 9:26:21 AM PDT by LauraleeBraswell
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To: NormsRevenge

I for one think that we should preserve some of our public lands and keep them pristine for our and future generations enjoyment. I also believe that some public lands could and should be opened for logging/mining/grazing etc. That balance is always going to stir a controversy. To bad most scientists that work on finding that balance have an agenda, the environmentailist have their agenda, the timber companies their agenda. Who is to make the decsion? This part bears repeating

"It's just ironic that the states are given all the opportunity in the new rule to determine what's in the interest of the lands within their states and they don't want to take that on," West said. "This is all about politics and not about protecting wildlife, watersheds and forests


7 posted on 08/31/2005 9:28:14 AM PDT by Ignatius J Reilly
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To: NormsRevenge

You beat me to it. These same states will be the first to complain about wildfires and how the feds should be helping to prevent them.


8 posted on 08/31/2005 9:28:41 AM PDT by mak5
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To: NormsRevenge
Excellent point!

The first thing that a logger will do is to clear out the excess underbrush which in the main fuel for these huge fires. Also, American loggers plant more trees than they cut down (it's good business) so this will help the western forest too.

If the environmentalist want to do some good why not get involved in the process to insure the loggers plant a diversity of native trees?
9 posted on 08/31/2005 9:30:19 AM PDT by Rurudyne (Standup Philosopher)
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To: LauraleeBraswell
Thank Robert Moses for Lawn Guyland's Parkways.

I thought you lived in the city.

10 posted on 08/31/2005 9:32:17 AM PDT by Clemenza (Proud "Free Traitor" & Capitalist Pig)
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Right by it. I have the best of both worlds. The beaches and the city.


11 posted on 08/31/2005 9:33:30 AM PDT by LauraleeBraswell
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To: Rurudyne

We are going to need an unbelievable amount of lumber and other wood products to rebuild Louisiana, Mississippi and Alabama. Get those chain saws warmed up!!


12 posted on 08/31/2005 9:33:49 AM PDT by Russ
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To: TChris
Because the Govt. doesn't own the land. It's public land. To sell it would be out-and-out fraud. ...wait, maybe the Govt. will sell. :-/

"Sell" it will.

13 posted on 08/31/2005 9:35:01 AM PDT by A. Pole (" There is no other god but Free Market, and Adam Smith is his prophet ! Bazaar Akbar! ")
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To: NormsRevenge
Hey Lefties, the forest belongs to all of us. Learn to live with it.

Buy an acre somewhere and keep it pristine!

14 posted on 08/31/2005 9:35:17 AM PDT by Jarhead1957 (Semper Fi)
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To: NormsRevenge

Heh. I am gleefully preparing to harvest two huge trees and mill them into lumber. What a novel idea: grow your own.






15 posted on 08/31/2005 9:37:34 AM PDT by EggsAckley ("Madness takes its toll. Please have exact change.")
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To: LauraleeBraswell

Even age regrowth is the term you need to describe those "forests".

They are related to teh soi dissant "Ancient Forests" so beloved by GanGreen types. But it turns out that the Ancient Forests are really also even age regrowth forests. Just a lot longer ago event shaped them.

Are you going deer hunting this season? That's a good way to help forests.


16 posted on 08/31/2005 9:39:19 AM PDT by GladesGuru ("In a society predicated upon liberty, it is essential to examine principles)
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To: LauraleeBraswell
We keep the forests around our highways somewhat

Here in Alaska, (Fire Country) we try to clear our highways to at least the width of a good fire break. It keeps the fires from jumping the road and provides access for firefighters.

17 posted on 08/31/2005 9:40:31 AM PDT by Species8472 (A life lived to help others is the only one that matters)
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To: LauraleeBraswell

I grew up in Malverne, although I would NEVER move back to Long Island. Property taxes are the worst in the country, schools are mediocre and services are declining. Plus I have to put up with Lawn Guylanders. ;-)


18 posted on 08/31/2005 9:44:02 AM PDT by Clemenza (Proud "Free Traitor" & Capitalist Pig)
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To: NormsRevenge
road-building and timber harvest will result in decreased water quality, increased sediment and pollutants

But dumping 1000's of pounds of fire retardant annually doesen't.

Analysis: Oregon Breast Milk Contaminated (with fire retardant)

I hate these morons.

19 posted on 08/31/2005 10:06:27 AM PDT by Valpal1 (Crush jihadists, drive collaborators before you, hear the lamentations of their media. Allahu FUBAR!)
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To: NormsRevenge

(Whiney Leftist voice) - "Because, you know, like, like, animals and trees are more important than icky people and stuff!"


20 posted on 08/31/2005 10:14:43 AM PDT by Clock King ("How will it end?" - Emperor; "In Fire." - Kosh)
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