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Navy concludes members of former Iraqi regime know whereabouts of missing U.S. pilot (Speicher)
SD Union Tribune ^ | 9-8-05 | Robert Burns

Posted on 09/08/2005 10:22:47 AM PDT by cgk

By Robert Burns

ASSOCIATED PRESS

7:42 a.m. September 8, 2005


Associated Press
U.S. Navy pilot Capt. Michael "Scott" Speicher, above, was shot down over Iraq in January 1991. A Navy report concludes members of the former Iraqi government "know the whereabouts" of the officer.
WASHINGTON – A Navy pilot shot down over Iraq in January 1991 may have been captured by Iraqi forces, and members of the former Iraqi government "know the whereabouts" of the officer, the Navy has concluded.

A Navy board of inquiry concluded that there is no credible evidence that Capt. Michael "Scott" Speicher is dead, and it reaffirmed his official status as "missing/captured," according to the board's final report.

The board also recommended that the Pentagon work with the State Department, the U.S. Embassy in Baghdad and the Iraqi government to "increase the level of attention and effort inside Iraq" to resolve the question of Speicher's fate.

Navy Secretary Gordon England approved the report on Wednesday, according to Lt. Erin Bailey, a Navy spokeswoman.

The Iraqi government under President Saddam Hussein maintained from the start that Speicher perished at the site where his F/A-18 fighter jet crashed in the desert. No evidence to contradict that has surfaced since the fall of Baghdad in April 2003, but the new Navy inquiry concluded there was no credible evidence of his death, either.

"In view of the above findings, the board concludes as to the current whereabouts and status of the person that the person missing/captured," the report said. A copy of the report was provided to The Associated Press.

After the fall of Baghdad, a team of U.S. investigators searched for evidence of Speicher's fate, but reported finding nothing conclusive.

The board of inquiry noted that years after the shootdown, which happened on the opening night of the 1991 Gulf War, the Iraqi government turned over a flight suit and other items associated with Speicher's aircraft.

That fact "leads us to conclude that elements of the former Iraqi regime know the whereabouts of Captain Speicher," the report said.

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The board of inquiry also said that a March 2005 U.S. intelligence report on the Speicher case contained unanswered questions, and it recommended that a POW/MIA analytical cell continue its efforts to resolve those questions. It did not provide details on this, noting that the March report is classified secret.

The Navy has changed its position on Speicher's status over the years. Hours after his plane went down, the Pentagon declared him killed in action. Ten years later, the Navy changed his status to MIA, citing an absence of evidence that he had died. In October 2002, the Navy switched his status to "missing-captured," although it has never said what evidence it had that he was in captivity.

A Pentagon team assigned to search for evidence of Speicher after the fall of Baghdad completed its efforts in May 2004. In congressional testimony shortly afterward, Marine Brig. Gen. Joseph J. McMenamin, who led the search team, said all in-country leads regarding the pilot's fate had been exhausted.

McMenamin also said, however, that some leads could not be fully pursued because of the security threat from the Iraq insurgency. Another problem, he said, was that nomadic Bedouin tribesmen who may have information of value are difficult to find. And some who might have information about Speicher may be intimidated by the threat of retribution by members of the former Saddam regime who are still at large.



TOPICS: Extended News; Foreign Affairs; Government; News/Current Events; War on Terror
KEYWORDS: desertstorm; gulfwar; iraq; jan171991; mia; nooneleftbehind; saddam; scottspeicher; speicher; spike
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1 posted on 09/08/2005 10:22:49 AM PDT by cgk
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http://www.freescottspeicher.org/


2 posted on 09/08/2005 10:24:24 AM PDT by cgk (We'll have to deal w/ the networks. One way to do that is to drain the swamp they live in - Rumsfeld)
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To: cgk

I like the carrot offered by the flier.

I believe the stick should also be applied. (Not panties on the head.)

This is perhaps the only topic on which alan dershowitz and I agree.


3 posted on 09/08/2005 10:30:48 AM PDT by Triple (All forms of socialism deny individuals the right to the fruits of their labor)
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To: Triple

Wouldn't it help if the flier was in Arabic?


4 posted on 09/08/2005 10:32:57 AM PDT by VA_Gentleman
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To: cgk

I'm convinced he is alive.


5 posted on 09/08/2005 10:39:20 AM PDT by Dog ( We haven't forgotten you Capt. Michael Speicher)
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To: cgk

I hope they are distributing the same kind of fliers for SPC Keith Maupin who is also still unaccounted for. I believe he may have even been promoted to SGT since his capture.


6 posted on 09/08/2005 10:40:20 AM PDT by Aerohawk
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To: Aerohawk

I've read that hey are. I just tried to post an article about an event for his family, but was blocked (cincinnati.com won't allow us to post their articles on FR):

http://news.cincinnati.com/apps/pbcs.dll/article?AID=/20050829/NEWS01/508290344/-1/CINCI

Mrs. Maupin is NO Cindy Sheehan. She and her family have my prayers as does Matt.


7 posted on 09/08/2005 10:44:27 AM PDT by cgk (We'll have to deal w/ the networks. One way to do that is to drain the swamp they live in - Rumsfeld)
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To: Dog
Me too:

8 posted on 09/08/2005 10:44:55 AM PDT by cgk (We'll have to deal w/ the networks. One way to do that is to drain the swamp they live in - Rumsfeld)
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To: cgk

hey=they


9 posted on 09/08/2005 10:45:12 AM PDT by cgk (We'll have to deal w/ the networks. One way to do that is to drain the swamp they live in - Rumsfeld)
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To: cgk

It would be great if someone has info in Iraq; I'll hold out hope until I hear otherwise.


10 posted on 09/08/2005 10:58:55 AM PDT by Peach (South Carolina is praying for our Gulf coast citizens.)
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To: cgk

We all need to remember Speicher in our prayers.


11 posted on 09/08/2005 11:04:51 AM PDT by Antoninus (Dominus Iesus, miserere nobis.)
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To: cgk; 68-69TonkinGulfYachtClub; NikkiUSA

Keeping him and his family in my prayers - just saw this on Fox News.


12 posted on 09/08/2005 11:45:05 AM PDT by StarCMC (Old Sarge is my hero...doing it right in Iraq! Vaya con Dios, Sarge.)
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To: StarFan; Dutchy; alisasny; BobFromNJ; BUNNY2003; Cacique; Clemenza; Coleus; cyborg; DKNY; ...
ping!

Please FReepmail me if you want on or off my ‘miscellaneous’ ping list.

13 posted on 09/08/2005 11:52:39 AM PDT by nutmeg ("We're going to take things away from you on behalf of the common good." - Hillary Clinton 6/28/04)
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To: StarCMC

Drudge has a link now, too, in RED :)

http://www.breitbart.com/news/2005/09/08/D8CG5U5O0.html


14 posted on 09/08/2005 12:17:44 PM PDT by cgk (We'll have to deal w/ the networks. One way to do that is to drain the swamp they live in - Rumsfeld)
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To: cgk

i know its pretty grim but i don't see why the iraqi government would have held onto this officer in 1991 when it returned the other POW's and the bodies of allied aircrew and soldiers that it held.

if they wanted to use him as a hostage then surely we would of seen him paraded on TV in 2003 handcuffed to Saddam Hussein.

the article mentioned his flying suit, i'm assuming that it showed some indication of what happened to him, whether he was injured, whether he was able to dump the suit and go on an E&E that didn't work or whether he was captured and stripped.

the accounts of British POW's were that they weren't changed into POW overalls until just before they were released, and that they and most of the other prisoners were kept in the same prison and had been able to establish some contact with each other.

we know that three british SF soldiers who were killed in western iraq in 1991 were buried by the local army units in marked graves and their remains were returned in the weeks after the ceasefire. one of the soldiers was way off the beaten track when he died and was buried and his grave took some time to locate, but the iraqis did hold up there end of the agreemets with regard to the return of POW's.

i can't speculate on why his body would not have been returned but given the british experience i would be very surprised if the iraqis had deliberately either hid his body or kept him in prison for 12 years without making some propaganda use from him.

prayers for his family, but i fear they will hear no good news.


15 posted on 09/08/2005 12:19:18 PM PDT by cokecan
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To: cgk

BTW - I believe the 'H' in those initials was at one time MSS's assigned downed pilot signal. Such things are highly classified.

He may have also made this 'H' signal at the crash site. (From bits & pieces reported and my own speculation about what those bits that were reported actually meant. In other words - no credible source has said this much publically, but some things that were said cause me to speculate this happened.)


16 posted on 09/08/2005 12:22:20 PM PDT by Triple (All forms of socialism deny individuals the right to the fruits of their labor)
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To: cgk

Didn't he write Iran under his initials?


17 posted on 09/08/2005 12:50:22 PM PDT by Canticle_of_Deborah
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To: cokecan

I believe Saddam kept an Iranian pilot for 18 years (for no reason).


18 posted on 09/08/2005 12:52:20 PM PDT by Canticle_of_Deborah
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To: Joseph_CutlerUSA

...I'd say the Iraqis killed him [probably accidently] while interrogating him, and got rid of the evidence.

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I pray you are wrong, but I have a hunch you are correct. So sad if his family were to get their hopes up for naught. But God does work miracles....



20 posted on 09/08/2005 2:37:25 PM PDT by Bigg Red (Do not trust Democrats with national security!)
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