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Customers filling tanks, suffering sticker shock
Maui News ^ | 9/14/2005 | Melissa Tanji

Posted on 09/15/2005 6:05:50 AM PDT by Santiago de la Vega

Gas prices on Maui went beyond the $4-per-gallon mark on Monday for midgrade and premium gasoline at some stations.

(Excerpt) Read more at mauinews.com ...


TOPICS: Business/Economy; Constitution/Conservatism; Government
KEYWORDS: gasprices; highprices; lines; pricecontrols; shortages
Prices soaring in the land of government control of wholesale gas prices?

Who'd've thunk it?

These people are idiots.

The first thing that happens when the government sets a price below the market is that prices RISE, not fall, because supplies of gasoline go elsewhere.

Suggested constitutional amendment:

Congress shall make no law respecting wages, prices, rents, interest rates, or exchange rates.

Get the damn government out of the price fixing business.

1 posted on 09/15/2005 6:05:58 AM PDT by Santiago de la Vega
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To: Santiago de la Vega
Suggested constitutional amendment: Congress shall make no law respecting wages, prices, rents, interest rates, or exchange rates.

If an amendment with that wording were ratified, you can rest assured that the liberals would suddenly discover the difference between "congress" and "state legislatures" and between "congress" and "city councils". Thus, the amendment would not have any bearing on wholesale gasoline price controls in Hawaii nor on rent controls in the Peoples Republics of Kalifornia and New York.

2 posted on 09/15/2005 6:09:41 AM PDT by VRWCmember
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To: Santiago de la Vega

Maui? Maui?

Isn't that one of those Islands off the west coast?

Didn't they just pass a law to keep prices low?


3 posted on 09/15/2005 6:14:00 AM PDT by PeteB570
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To: Santiago de la Vega

Gasoline prices are falling pretty fast here in Hampton Roads.


4 posted on 09/15/2005 6:15:59 AM PDT by R. Scott (Humanity i love you because when you're hard up you pawn your Intelligence to buy a drink.)
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To: Santiago de la Vega
But when a new load of fuel came in on Monday, he had to hike up the prices, he said.

“We cannot pass on the cost (now) without the taxes,” he said. “(But) our profit is the same.”

The cap is set by the state Public Utilities Commission, which bases the cap on a weighted average of wholesale prices in Los Angeles, the Gulf Coast and New York. Gas prices nationwide have skyrocketed because of an unstable world oil market and damage inflicted on the Gulf Coast region by Hurricane Katrina.

The gas cap applies to what wholesalers may charge gasoline retailers. Wholesalers need not increase their prices by the full amount, but the practice over the first two weeks appears to be that wholesalers have set prices up to what’s been allowed by the cap.

The cap does not include federal, state and county taxes or whatever markup the retailer may charge.

“I’m a customer also. I got to pay for my gas. I no more break either,” Murayama said. “You feel for the guys who got to work in Lahaina, Upcountry and far places.”

Murayama, who has been running the station on Puunene Avenue next to McDonald’s for 33 years, said: “The gas cap is meant for the state of Hawaii. We are not a state if we have different prices.”

Wholesale gas cap prices vary in eight different zones across the state, with Oahu having the lowest gas cap and Lanai having the highest.

“The government cannot even run itself correctly, and they are trying to run private entities?” Murayama said.

Talk about unintended consequences - now the price cap is a defacto price fix - socialists get socialism - you made your bed, now sleep in it.

5 posted on 09/15/2005 6:16:35 AM PDT by 2banana (My common ground with terrorists - They want to die for Islam, and we want to kill them.)
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To: PeteB570
I love Maui.
The state government will have to buck up the gas prices EVEN MORE.
Hawaii's the biggest welfare state in the union. Now they are in the price stabilization business.
Lol. They might as well join the other socialist countries of the world.

They DO have awesome snorkeling, which is why I am there every summer.
Aloooooooha!

6 posted on 09/15/2005 6:17:12 AM PDT by starfish923
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To: Santiago de la Vega

If people think high prices are bad, they should imagine having to queue for it.


7 posted on 09/15/2005 6:18:24 AM PDT by mewzilla (Property must be secured or liberty cannot exist. John Adams)
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To: Santiago de la Vega

"Prices soaring in the land of government control of wholesale gas prices?"

Convenient how they set the price controls at the wholesale level. No? This way locals can still jack it as high as they want and keep the difference. And of course the shortages resulting from the fixed wholesale prices only serve to make retail price increases easier to sustain.

But of course I'm sure they never thought of that /sarc.


8 posted on 09/15/2005 6:19:20 AM PDT by Pessimist
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To: R. Scott

$2.89 outside of Pittsburgh .


9 posted on 09/15/2005 6:21:09 AM PDT by Renegade
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To: Renegade

I paid $2.79 last nite at Sheetz in Murrysville.


10 posted on 09/15/2005 6:23:02 AM PDT by cjshapi
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To: Santiago de la Vega
Two quotes:

"But Pinto took the hit at the gas pump good-naturedly. “We need the gas, how we going to cruise?” he asked."

Lauifi said that every day customers come in to grumble. “I said, ’No grumble to me, call up to Linda Lingle.’

love it...

11 posted on 09/15/2005 6:26:37 AM PDT by steveo (Member: Fathers Against Rude Television)
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To: Santiago de la Vega

When they secede from the union they can build a refinery on one of their beautiful islands. Problem solved.
In the mean time.$.$.$.$....


12 posted on 09/15/2005 6:28:17 AM PDT by nairBResal
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To: Santiago de la Vega

If government wanted to HELP gasoline or motor fuel prices, they'd remove their OWN restrictions that prevent new refineries from being built.


13 posted on 09/15/2005 6:31:49 AM PDT by azhenfud (He who always is looking up seldom finds others' lost change.)
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To: Santiago de la Vega

No sympathy. They live in Maui. They can spend the money they save on winter coats and snow shovels.


14 posted on 09/15/2005 6:40:56 AM PDT by pa mom
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To: cjshapi

Prices are going down like the Patriots in two weeks !


15 posted on 09/15/2005 6:44:05 AM PDT by Renegade
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To: Renegade

Yesterday it was between $2.75 and $2.99 here.


16 posted on 09/15/2005 7:47:05 AM PDT by R. Scott (Humanity i love you because when you're hard up you pawn your Intelligence to buy a drink.)
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Just to show you how your wallet is being raped . I left Pittsburgh on Monday morning and the price at Station Square was $2.99. I got on the turnpike and the price at Somerset was $3.06. By the time I got to Morgantown the price was $3.19. The two stations off the exit were also $3.19. Travel 1 mile up Route 10 and the price dropped to $2.89 . A drop of $.30 /gal. in a distance of 1 mile .


17 posted on 09/15/2005 8:54:53 AM PDT by Renegade
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To: Santiago de la Vega

Here is some former resident insight - most people in Hawaii live on Oahu, so the laws are made for those people, with minor consideration for others. Because Oahu is less than 30 miles long and 20 miles wide, a gallon of gas gets most people a long way on their daily commute. I doubt that more than half the people travel over 25 miles on any given day. Plus most drive little cars and have for 30 years. Because the weather is great no heaters or AC units running for the average driver, which means they actually get 25 -30 miles to a gallon. Thus @ $4.00 they could spend $5 or less a day for gas still cheap by suburban standards.


18 posted on 09/15/2005 10:44:26 AM PDT by q_an_a
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To: Renegade

Any gas station near an Interstate will be high – captive audience.


19 posted on 09/15/2005 12:18:47 PM PDT by R. Scott (Humanity i love you because when you're hard up you pawn your Intelligence to buy a drink.)
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