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Liars' brains 'are not the same'(finally, a clue to Slickmeister's brain)
BBC News ^ | 09/29/05

Posted on 10/02/2005 5:54:50 PM PDT by TigerLikesRooster

Liars' brains 'are not the same'
 

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A deceitful person's brain is different, the study suggests
Habitual liars' brains differ from those of honest people, a study says.

A University of Southern California team studied 49 people and found those known to be pathological liars had up to 26% more white matter than others.

White matter transmits information and grey matter processes it. Having more white matter in the prefrontal cortex may aid lying, the researchers said,

But the British Journal of Psychiatry said there were likely to be more differences in the brains of liars.

Manipulative behaviour

Participants were volunteers drawn from five temporary employment agencies in Los Angeles.

Three separate groups were studied.

The issue is always how much of our behaviour is under voluntary control and how much is innate
Dr Cosmo Hallstrom, Consultant Psychiatrist

The first consisted of 12 men and women with a history of being pathological liars; the second was 21 people who did not have a history of lying or anti-social behaviour.

The third group consisted of 16 people with anti-social personality disorder but no history of pathological lying. They were studied to see if they showed the same brain make-up as liars.

The researchers drew up a list of criteria for lying, cheating and deceiving, including habits such as conning people or behaving manipulatively, and telling lies in order to obtain sickness benefits.

They also assessed how much grey and white matter people had in the prefrontal cortex areas of their brains, using structural magnetic resonance imaging (MRI).

Liars were found to have between 22 and 26% more white matter than either those with no history of lying or those in the anti-social group.

Childhood

The findings could not be explained by differences in age, ethnicity, IQ, head injury or substance misuse.

This is the first study to show a brain difference in people who lie, cheat and manipulate others, the researchers said.

They said the study could help research into areas such as people who feign illness.

The findings are in line with previous studies which showed children with autism are less capable of lying than other children.

Brain neurodevelopmental studies of autism show people with the condition have more grey matter than white matter - the opposite pattern to the liars in this study.

The researchers say the link between white matter and a deceitful personality could be that white matter provides a person with the cognitive capacity to lie.

Writing in the British Journal of Psychiatry, the research team led by Dr Yaling Yang, say: "To our knowledge, this is the first study to show a brain abnormality in people who lie, cheat and manipulate others.

"The results further implicate the prefrontal cortex as an important - but not sole - component in the neural circuitry underlying lying, and provide an initial neurological correlate of a deceitful personality."

They add: "Further studies are required to examine changes in brain anatomy during the critical neurodevelopmental period in childhood, alongside changes in lying ability, to test further our preliminary hypothesis on the link between prefrontal white matter and lying."

Dr Cosmo Hallstrom, a consultant psychiatrist in London, said: "The issue is always how much of our behaviour is under voluntary control and how much is innate.

"The finding of brain abnormalities lends weight to the idea that a strong component of such difficulties may well be beyond voluntary control at least in part."



TOPICS: Foreign Affairs; News/Current Events
KEYWORDS: abuseofinformation; autism; brain; cheating; discrimination; disorders; forbidenfruit; greymatter; innate; junkscience; lying; manipulative; mri; orwellalert; prefrontalcortex; profiling; psychiatry; toomuchinformation; voluntarycontrol; whitematter
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They should definitely examine Slick Willie's brain to make the air-tight confirmation of their theory.:)

It appears that compulsive lying has some evolutionary advantage. It would have helped a man con their way into charming women and produce children numerous times.

1 posted on 10/02/2005 5:54:54 PM PDT by TigerLikesRooster
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To: TigerLikesRooster; neverdem
We want to see Slick Willie's brain scan, ping!
2 posted on 10/02/2005 5:56:13 PM PDT by TigerLikesRooster
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To: TigerLikesRooster

His brain is pure white.


3 posted on 10/02/2005 6:04:10 PM PDT by Marine_Uncle (Honor must be earned)
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To: TigerLikesRooster

If this is true, then Mr Clinton is biologically driven to lie, so it's not his fault.


4 posted on 10/02/2005 6:14:20 PM PDT by AlbertWang
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To: AlbertWang
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But it means that he should have never been allowed to be a president and he may have to be committed to asylum. I can live with that.:)

5 posted on 10/02/2005 6:18:01 PM PDT by TigerLikesRooster
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To: TigerLikesRooster
I was part of this study. Uh, in fact I conducted this study. Actually I'm the president of the pathological liars study institute. Yeah, that's the ticket!
6 posted on 10/02/2005 6:18:59 PM PDT by CrazyIvan (If you read only one book this year, read "Stolen Valor".)
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To: TigerLikesRooster
I suspect that the Toon has a dirty mind as well. Therefor it should be removed for washing.
7 posted on 10/02/2005 6:22:36 PM PDT by cripplecreek (Never a minigun handy when you need one.)
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To: TigerLikesRooster

8 posted on 10/02/2005 6:31:31 PM PDT by xcamel (No more RINOS - Not Now, Not Ever Again.)
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To: TigerLikesRooster

How could there be more white matter in WJC's brain when he's our first black president?


9 posted on 10/02/2005 6:43:32 PM PDT by GSlob
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To: TigerLikesRooster

The study also found that liars tend to gravitate to the Democratic Party };-)


10 posted on 10/02/2005 7:13:25 PM PDT by popdonnelly
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To: TigerLikesRooster
Slick Willie aside, isn't it frightening that there may be a set of tests soon, MRI, genetic, and biological, that will sort all of us into neat boxes?

Sort of like Brave New World, except that the decision would be made post-birth, maybe in hospital; a few simple tests and your life track is set.

Sort of like Gattica, where your genotype determined your destiny.

Imagine if you are being considered for promotion to a high level, and they ask for a cheek scraping, an MRI, and a PET, plus the usual MMPI questionnaire. Or applying for work in any position of responsibility like airline pilot, bus driver, teacher, poster on FR.

Extrapolate this capability out a few years. I see more dystopias than utopias.
11 posted on 10/02/2005 7:15:26 PM PDT by DBrow (Hi Ezex! Still lurking?)
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To: TigerLikesRooster

Is it genetic? Did we find a new protected minority? I mean I hope it is a minority :(


12 posted on 10/02/2005 7:31:36 PM PDT by A. Pole (Hitchens: "We must rid ourselves ... of the Quaker-Papist babble about the sanctity of human life.")
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To: DBrow

"isn't it frightening that there may be a set of tests soon, MRI, genetic, and biological, that will sort all of us into neat boxes?"

It will be found discriminatory and forbidden, except in the case of those who are deemed "privileged," who will be tested with vigor. And, even then, those of this class who acquit themselves well in tests over which they have no control as to outcome, will be prevented from seeking to advance, due to their "unfair" advantage.


13 posted on 10/02/2005 7:33:12 PM PDT by RegulatorCountry (Esse Quam Videre)
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To: TigerLikesRooster

Yeah, but does this explain algore?


14 posted on 10/02/2005 7:34:37 PM PDT by lexington minuteman 1775
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To: TigerLikesRooster
Dr Cosmo Hallstrom, a consultant psychiatrist in London,

There is another Cosmo out there?


15 posted on 10/02/2005 7:37:51 PM PDT by Revolting cat! ("In the end, nothing explains anything!")
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To: TigerLikesRooster

And so. . .as the brain changes. . .the nose grows?


16 posted on 10/02/2005 7:40:35 PM PDT by cricket (No Freedom. . .No Peace. . .)
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To: cricket
And so. . .as the brain changes. . .the nose grows?

By golly, Jiminy, you've got it. I made his head out of white pine, not gray spruce.

17 posted on 10/02/2005 8:15:20 PM PDT by Louis Foxwell (THIS IS WAR AND I MEAN TO WIN IT.)
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To: popdonnelly

mebee there's a brain condition that makes folks receptive to lies...I know plenty of glazed over democrats who are not pathological liars, but they won't believe anything but the lies of democrats.


18 posted on 10/02/2005 8:31:29 PM PDT by stickywillie
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To: GSlob
Life is full of apparent paradoxes, eh?

;^)

19 posted on 10/02/2005 8:40:12 PM PDT by SAJ
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To: lexington minuteman 1775

No, but any first year course in botany probably does.


20 posted on 10/02/2005 8:40:58 PM PDT by SAJ
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