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Unanswered Questions [antiwar rally backed by communists]
FrontPageMagazine.com ^ | October 4, 2005 | By Joel Mowbray

Posted on 10/04/2005 3:31:00 AM PDT by Jim Robinson

In its e-mail endorsing the antiwar rally held in Washington, D.C. over the weekend, Moveon.org took the unusual step of notifying its 3.5 million members that though it wanted people to attend the event, it had “disagreements on a range of issues” with the organizers.

What the e-mail left curiously unanswered was what exactly constitutes the “range of issues” with which they disagree.

Could it be spearheading the cause of Nazi war criminals? Or playing defense for the likes of other war criminals, including Slobodan Milosevic and Saddam Hussein? Or serving as defense attorney for one of bin Laden’s top deputies? Or was it something trivial, like the color of the background for the 9/11 conspiracy theory signs?

Perhaps Moveon.org decided to endorse the rally organized by International ANSWER (Act Now to Stop War and Racism) based on having the same view of the group as the New York Times: as an outfit “which embodies a wide range of progressive political objectives.”

But if Moveon.org had done its homework—and who are we kidding; of course it did—the George Soros-backed organization would have known that it was embracing a most repugnant “progressive” group.

The founder and seemingly still the head of International ANSWER is Ramsey Clark, who, in the words of the paper of record, is a “former attorney general... who has endorsed impeaching Mr. Bush.”

Of all the ways the New York Times could have described him, the paper chose the most inanely benign one, skipping past a description that also would have been far more on-point: Clark was the defense lawyer (until getting canned) for Saddam Hussein.

Rushing to Saddam’s side after the war was par for Clark’s course. He’s defended a star-studded roster of mass-murderers: Serbian tyrant Milosevic, former Milosevic henchman Radovan Karadzic, a Rwandan pastor accused of orchestrating the slaughter of thousands of Tutsis, al Qaeda terrorist Mohamed Al-Owhali, as well as Nazi war criminals Karl Linnas and Jack Riemer.

If only Clark had been just an attorney. He was, in each case—to put it generously—an advocate.

All of this is known. And much of it has been written by leftists. Yet all the leftists at Moveon.org can say is that they “disagree” with Clark’s organization on a “range of issues.”

Much as Moveon.org wants to have it both ways by loving the action, but “disagreeing” in part with the actor, its endorsement of the rally is an endorsement of Ramsey Clark and his organization. Kristinn Taylor, an organizer with FreeRepublic.com, was quoted in the San Francisco Chronicle asking an appropriate question: “If the Klu Klux Klan led an anti-war demonstration, would you march in it?”

But maybe the more appropriate question would be: If Saddam Hussein organized a human rights conference, would Moveon.org partake? Ramsey Clark did. In 1998. As the keynote speaker. In his speech, he identified the real human rights abusers as the United States, not the man who, by almost anyone’s account, had already slaughtered at least hundreds of thousands of his own citizens.

As the 1998 conference indicates, Clark has done so much more than just serve as defense counsel for war criminals. He supports them. He sympathizes with them. He cheers them on. He probably even loves them.

Long before defending Milosevic before the war crimes tribunal, he was the despot’s chief cheerleader. As NATO was attempting to bomb Milosevic into submission, Clark flew to Belgrade, picked up an honorary degree, and delivered the following message: “It will be a great struggle, but a glorious victory. You can be victorious.”

Milosevic wasn’t Clark’s only ethnic cleanser client, either. He has defended several Nazi war criminals, but once again went much beyond providing legal counsel. Clark argued, for example, that when it comes to Nazi war criminals, bygones should be bygones: “I oppose the idea of regenerating hatreds and pursuits 40 years after the fact.”

But Clark went even further than arguing against justice for Nazis. After Linnas was deported to the Soviet Union in April 1987, he fell ill. At his deathbed was Ramsey Clark, who flew to Leningrad just to be with him.

While Moveon.org at least pretended to kinda, sorta hold its nose in endorsing the rally, its stated reason for doing so—“Peace Mom” Cindy Sheehan—almost certainly did not. Despite being enthusiastically championed by elected Democrats and leading, mainstream leftists, Sheehan’s views seem to be right in line with Clark’s.

The “peace mom” has insisted the so-called “neocons” (Donald Rumsfeld, Paul Wolfowitz, etc.) are “murderous thugs....gangsters who lust after fortunes and power.” And in a world that still contains Kim Jong Il, the Iranian mullahs, and Osama bin Laden, Sheehan claims, “The biggest terrorist in the world is George W. Bush!”

That last line—which she did not deliver at the rally (she has handlers now who pooh-pooh such pronouncements)—likely would have been met with thunderous applause. No doubt that some in attendance believe that 9/11 was perpetrated not by Muslims, but by the United States, or possibly Israel. Or maybe both.

Clearly visible in the photo of the event run by the Times’ print edition was a sign that reads, “STOP the 9-11 COVER-UP.” It is a popular placard, and it is distributed by the 9/11 Truth Commission. It’s the slogan of those who believe that 9/11 was a Jewish/Israeli/United States conspiracy.

The 9/11 Truth Commission, to be fair, doesn’t explicitly come out and blame 9/11 on Israel or the Jews. It does, however, point the finger squarely at the White House. Its second-most popular sign reads, “THE BUSH REGIME ENGINEERED 9-11.” Some who carry that sign, though, surely believe that Bush carried out 9/11 in cahoots with the Jews.

Could it be, in fact, that that is the “range of issues” with which Moveon.org “disagrees”: whether 9/11 was masterminded only by Bush, or with the help of the Jews?


TOPICS: Extended News; News/Current Events
KEYWORDS: answer; canswer; communistfilth; communists; cpusa; ewwwwwwww; koolaid; moveonorg; nion; notinourname; ramseyclark; supporttroopsrally; traitor; treason; ufpj; whatsthatsmell; workersworld; wwp
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1 posted on 10/04/2005 3:31:03 AM PDT by Jim Robinson
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To: Jim Robinson
Clearly visible in the photo of the event run by the Times’ print edition was a sign that reads, “STOP the 9-11 COVER-UP.”

STOP the 9/11 Commission COVER-UP. Let Able Danger folks testify.

2 posted on 10/04/2005 3:34:56 AM PDT by beyond the sea (Doctor, my eyes... tell me what is wrong...was I unwise to leave them open for so long)
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Thanks for posting Jim. Most excellent read.

EAGLES UP!


3 posted on 10/04/2005 3:36:29 AM PDT by Taxman (So that the beautiful pressure does not diminish!)
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To: Jim Robinson

Good article. Thanks for posting. The enemy within.


4 posted on 10/04/2005 3:48:04 AM PDT by PGalt
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To: Jim Robinson

Move-on knows who it is in bed with, after all their leader george Soros is an international criminal himself.


5 posted on 10/04/2005 4:01:43 AM PDT by sgtbono2002
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To: Jim Robinson

Bumpitttt.


6 posted on 10/04/2005 4:02:09 AM PDT by Rocko
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To: Jim Robinson
From the article: "...But Clark went even further than arguing against justice for Nazis. After Linnas was deported to the Soviet Union in April 1987, he fell ill. At his deathbed was Ramsey Clark, who flew to Leningrad just to be with him..."

Jim, thanks for posting this. I did a little research and found further information about Nazi war criminal Karl Linnas, and his attorney Ramsey Clark.

Even the Soviets recognized Karl Linnas as a Nazi war criminal, head of the Nazi death camp in Tartu, Estonia.

The Soviets tried Linnas in absence then found Linnas guilty and condemned him to death.

The US Supreme Court refused to hear Ramsey Clark's appeal for Linnas then two days later Supreme Court Justice Thurgood Marshall granted Linnas a 25 day stay on deportation.

From the Ukrainian Weekly:

1986: A LOOK BACK
The hunt for Nazis


"...The Supreme Court declined, however, to hear the case of another East European suspected of Nazi complicity. On December 1 the court voted not to hear the case of Estonian Karl Linnas (the vote was 6 to 3, one vote short of what is needed to grant review).

Two days later, Justice Thurgood Marshall granted a 25-day stay of deportation in order to allow Mr. Linnas' attorney, former U.S. Attorney General Ramsey Clark to file a petition for a rehearing before the Supreme Court.

Mr. Linnas is accused of concealing his background as commandant of a Nazi death camp in Tartu, Estonia. A lower court had ordered him deported to the USSR where in 1962, in absentia, he was found guilty and sentenced to death.

The verdict of the Soviet trial was announced in the press even before the proceedings had begun..."

1986: A LOOK BACK The hunt for Nazis



7 posted on 10/04/2005 4:32:16 AM PDT by bd476
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To: Jim Robinson
Could it be, in fact, that that is the “range of issues” with which Moveon.org “disagrees”: whether 9/11 was masterminded only by Bush, or with the help of the Jews?

A vast, right-wing conspiracy! Led by Karl Rove!

8 posted on 10/04/2005 4:39:30 AM PDT by airborne (My hero - my nephew! Sean is home! Thank you God!)
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Lets not forget all the treacherous little members of "the Democratic Socialists of America"

Nancy Pelosi Et al.

They may hide themselves better than moveon.org but they are a clear and present danger


9 posted on 10/04/2005 4:43:13 AM PDT by mylife (The roar of the masses could be farts)
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To: Jim Robinson
Another interesting find: the New York Times overlooked a not so minor detail in a previous story.

There is no mention that Ramsey Clark was Karl Linnas' attorney in this May 14, 1987 article:

Estonian Deported by U.S. To Soviet Is Seeking Pardon
10 posted on 10/04/2005 4:44:27 AM PDT by bd476
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To: Jim Robinson

Ramsey Clark is the ultimate self-hating American.

His leftism is so extreme it has more in common with Pol Pot, then with his home country.

I do judge people by who they associate with, and anyone/group who pals with Ramsey deserves all the condemnation they get.

Ramsey's father should have used a Ramses.


11 posted on 10/04/2005 4:49:53 AM PDT by bulldog905
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To: bd476
Your post is why FReepers terrify Libbers all over the World . . . we have some of the sharpest minds in the world as members and a lot of us, like you, are researchers-extraordinaire. You and the other GREAT FReepers are the ONLY reason I stay somewhat optimistic in this pessimistic, dooms-day world of ours.

Great link . . . FROM 1987!! They can run . . . LOL . . . but due to archives and the talent of members like you . . . they can't hide. Keep up the good fight, you've got the Liberals on the run.

Great homepage by the way.

12 posted on 10/04/2005 4:59:34 AM PDT by geedee (Most people don't really want freedom, because freedom involves responsibility and courage.)
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One of the things that makes my head spin the fastest is trying to understand how someone like Ramsey Clark can be held up and adored as an icon by the far left. Clark can claim to be anti-war all he wants, can claim (without proof) that George Bush is the greatest threat to the world, but his actions demonstrate far louder than words what he really stands for. And it's not peace or freedom.


13 posted on 10/04/2005 5:00:51 AM PDT by exDemMom (Now that I've finally accepted that I'm living a bad hair life, I'm more at peace with the world.)
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Rushing to Saddam’s side after the war was par for Clark’s course. He’s defended a star-studded roster of mass-murderers: Serbian tyrant Milosevic

Soros was Milosevic's worst enemy and the catalyst for the war against the Serbs. How extremely hilarious and ironic that the protesters are protesting the war started by the protest organizer.

And those who are protesting the jihad against the Serbs are right to do so. I might have to start showing up at these war protests with "Free Milosevic" signs. If hundreds of people show up to the Move.on events with "Free Milosevic" signs, it would end the war protests for good.

14 posted on 10/04/2005 5:55:39 AM PDT by Jim_Curtis (How do we prevent someone from torching his city if he will be rewarded as a lottery winner?)
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To: Jim Robinson

http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/1493302/posts
FR Exclusive: John Kerry, Mary Landrieu, MoveOn DNC and Katrina


15 posted on 10/04/2005 5:57:54 AM PDT by Calpernia (Breederville.com)
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>>>>George Soros-backed organization would have known that it was embracing a most repugnant “progressive” group


http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/1320747/posts
George Soros, Media Connections - Bump List


16 posted on 10/04/2005 5:59:38 AM PDT by Calpernia (Breederville.com)
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>>>>The founder and seemingly still the head of International ANSWER is Ramsey Clark

http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/1437269/posts
[FLASHBACK] Ramsey Clark backs the President's Supreme Court nominee


17 posted on 10/04/2005 6:02:45 AM PDT by Calpernia (Breederville.com)
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>>>>Perhaps Moveon.org decided to endorse the rally organized by International ANSWER

ACLU, VVAW, IAC, ANSWER, Not In Our Name, Human Rights First....they all fall under Ahmed Huber's guidence that operate under SAAR foundation (currently under investigation after being raided in Operation Greenquest)

Who is Ahmed Huber:

Ahmed Huber:

Among the conclave’s key backers was Ahmed Huber, a Swiss-German convert to Islam who traveled back and forth to Beirut to promote the event. This is the same Huber who is a primary supporter of the NPD, the German neo-Nazi party that sent 4,000 of its members marching through Berlin’s historic Jewish neighborhood on a recent Sabbath.

It takes money, clout and coordination to get 4,000 people to march anywhere, and clearly, people like Huber have got all three. And his contacts stretch beyond Europe and the Middle East. In a recent televised interview, Huber spoke of his many lectures in the United States and boasted that because of his strong ties to American Islamic groups, he was given advance warning that something big was going to happen here -- well before 9/11.

Against a wall filled with pictures of his heroes -- the Ayatollah Khomeini and Hitler, among others -- Huber denies that his bank has helped al Qaida, even as he gloats about his cohorts in the U.S. assuring him, We will bring down the power of the Israel lobby.

Alias: Achmed Albert Friedrich Armand Huber

Linked to:

Nada Management Organization - the Nada Management Organization was blocked on suspicion that the firm had possible links to the September 11 attacks. No details were given about the amounts frozen or the banks concerned. The move comes after the United States asked Switzerland, Italy, Liechtenstein and the Bahamas to block all assets belonging to the Nada Management Organization, which was previously known as al-Taqwa. Two of the company’s bosses were detained by police for questioning in Lugano on Wednesday, as part of a coordinated operation by Switzerland, Italy and Liechtenstein.

Youssef Mustafa Nada and Ali Ghaleb Himmat were taken into custody after Italian police raided their homes on Wednesday in Campione D’Italia, a tiny Italian enclave in Switzerland, surrounded by canton Ticino. They were later released. Another Nada official, Ahmed Huber, was questioned about al-Taqwa’s activities by Swiss officials in Bern before being released. The Swiss federal prosecutor, Valentin Roschacher, said the investigation was likely to take several months. “We now have enough information to open an inquiry. We seized a lot of documentation on Wednesday, some of which is in Arabic, and it will take a long time to follow the paper trail.”

The US authorities say al-Taqwa is one of several informal cash exchanges - known as “hawalas” - which funnel millions of dollars to terrorists outside the traditional banking system.

Investigators suspect that hawalas also help terrorists acquire material and supplies by acting as front organisations. They believe bin Laden has made use of them to acquire and distribute funds.

http://www.swissinfo.org/sen/swissinfo.html?siteSect=105&sid=900002

Nada Management, founded in 1987 under the name al-Taqwa, is one of the world’s largest financial institutions dedicated to Muslim clients and Islamic business activities. One elemental service these groups provide is the hawala exchange system, by which small amounts of money - usually less than $1,000 - are transferred to other hawala agencies around the world. A sum of money or valuable can be brought to a hawala agency in Europe, for example, where a phone call to a network office in the Middle East or Asia will free up a corresponding amount at the desired destination.

The transaction is almost immediate, based entirely on trust and requires no certification that might leave a paper trail. Western antiterror experts suspect such unregulated transactions allow millions of dollars to be funneled to Islamist groups engaged in terror.

Also Linked to:

Relationships

Primary Entity Type Related Entity Name Start Date End Date
Iran Linked to Khobar Towers Bombing    
Saif al-Adel Resided in Iran    
Abu Mussab al-Zarqawi Resided in Iran    
Saad bin Laden Linked to Iran    
Islamic Great Eastern Raider's Front Linked to Iran    
Hani Al-Sayegh Linked to Iran    
Ahmed Huber Linked to Iran    
Habip Aktas Linked to Iran    
Yusuf Polat Linked to Iran    
Fevzi Yitiz Linked to Iran    
Muhammad Khalid Traveled from Iran    
ASA Diam Place a phone call to Iran 1/15/2001 1/15/2001


18 posted on 10/04/2005 6:05:46 AM PDT by Calpernia (Breederville.com)
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To: bd476

Wow, thanks!


19 posted on 10/04/2005 6:07:51 AM PDT by Calpernia (Breederville.com)
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To: geedee
Geedee, thank you very much for your feedback. That's the nicest thing anyone has said to me in a long time.

Your homepage has a wonderful story on it. I'm wondering if you have considered submitting it somewhere as a first person story.

Thank you again. You really made my day. :-)
20 posted on 10/04/2005 6:45:31 AM PDT by bd476
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