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WSJ: Alchemy in the Desert? Technology to Recover Water From Vehicle Exhaust Fumes
Wall Street Journal ^ | October 4, 2005 | J. LYNN LUNSFORD

Posted on 10/04/2005 6:34:02 AM PDT by OESY

Keeping an army provisioned in the desert is a ballet of logistics, particularly when it comes to supplying two vital liquids: diesel fuel and water.

Now, using technologies developed for the space program, the U.S. Army is conducting an experiment that could convert the exhaust pipes of military vehicles into water fountains.

Later this month, United Technologies Corp.'s Hamilton Sundstrand unit will deliver two military Humvees to the Army for three months of testing at the Aberdeen Proving Ground outside Baltimore. Built into each vehicle's truck bed is a complex system that can recover water from engine exhaust, purifying as much as half the liquid volume from a tank of fuel.

"This is one of those things where, when you first hear about it, you think the scientists have gone out of their minds," says Robert Leduc, president of Hamilton Sundstrand's flight systems business, which includes the water-recovery program. "But once you taste the water, you realize the potential."

The military calculates that a soldier in the desert needs about 20 gallons of water a day, five of which must be pure enough to drink, prepare food and use for medical needs. (The other 15 gallons are for bathing, washing clothes....) Water gets to the front in vulnerable, slow-moving truck convoys that require armed escorts, or it is pumped from local rivers, lakes or ponds and purified by heavy-duty filters.

For the Army, the logistics of moving water limits how it can use troops. When soldiers are deployed in the field, it can easily take 40% of them to move water and other materials, often placing them in vulnerable positions, says Jay Dusenbury, science and technology team leader for... TARDEC, in Warren, Mich. "Anything that can cut down on that vulnerability and enable troops to fight... could be huge,"....

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TOPICS: Business/Economy; Extended News; Foreign Affairs; News/Current Events; Politics/Elections; War on Terror
KEYWORDS: army; automotiveresearch; desert; filtration; hamiltonsundstrand; humvees; lexcarb; lexingtoncarbon; marines; military; tardec; unitedtechnologies; water

1 posted on 10/04/2005 6:34:08 AM PDT by OESY
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To: OESY

"This is one of those things where, when you first hear about it, you think the scientists have gone out of their minds," says Robert Leduc, president of Hamilton Sundstrand's flight systems business, which includes the water-recovery program. "But once you taste the water, you realize the potential."

It is suprising that this hasn't been thought of before. Most folks have seen the catalytic condensation dripping from a tail-pipe. Why not use that system to purify the output into potable water. Just remember to take mineral suplements as distilled water, to some extent, leeches those from one's system.

Good show gents!

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2 posted on 10/04/2005 6:41:49 AM PDT by petro45acp (SUPPORT/BE YOUR LOCAL SHEEPDOG!!!!)
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To: OESY

I had a '77 Olds that would burn a quart of oil in every 500 miles. Wonder how they like drinking oily water?


3 posted on 10/04/2005 6:42:47 AM PDT by Last Dakotan
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To: OESY

I want one.

I wonder what taking the water from the normal exhaust leaves to be exhausted. My guess is that what ever little still comes out is quite a bit more toxic.
(he says, offering absolutely nothing to back it up)


4 posted on 10/04/2005 6:45:29 AM PDT by mad puppy ( The Southern border needs to be a MAJOR issue in 2006 and 2008)
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It's done with a "closed loop" like that used in power plant condensers. Never the two shall meet (in theory).


5 posted on 10/04/2005 6:51:33 AM PDT by yobid (Don't pet the sweaty things.......)
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To: mad puppy
My guess is that what ever little still comes out is quite a bit more toxic.

It can't be "more" toxic. The CO, NOx etc. are there in the same amounts either way. Minus the water vapor that makes exhaust fumes visible, it would just be harder to see.

6 posted on 10/04/2005 7:06:13 AM PDT by Ditto ( No trees were killed in sending this message, but billions of electrons were inconvenienced.)
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To: OESY
This looks like a great idea. My only question is step four in the process which adds chlorine. As the Army learned in Desert Storm, chlorine levels greater than 2ppm can cause some to experience stomach cramping and diarrhea. On such a small scale such as this, the chlorine levels would be hard to regulate and would require precision equipment at a great cost.

Since the water has already been vaporized there is no bio-contaminates in it. The only point of possible contamination is the storage tank.

A simpler solution would be to have a removable storage tank that could easily be decontaminated every few days.

7 posted on 10/04/2005 7:22:34 AM PDT by Between the Lines (Be careful how you live your life, it may be the only gospel anyone reads.)
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Now if they can just take the carbon dioxide to run little greenhouses in the back of vehicles for fresh vegetables.
8 posted on 10/04/2005 7:52:26 AM PDT by KarlInOhio (We were promised someone in the Scalia/Thomas mold. Instead we got a Dem approved Bush crony. :-()
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"Now if they can just take the carbon dioxide to run little greenhouses in the back of vehicles for fresh vegetables."

Yeah! I remember my few forays into desert environs......I sure missed broccoli!

Solar still works great for collecting a daily life preserving dose of H2O. Should be in every troop's kit.

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9 posted on 10/04/2005 8:03:51 AM PDT by petro45acp (SUPPORT/BE YOUR LOCAL SHEEPDOG!!!!)
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"Biocide treatment"

Sure - that must be where the Stonemasons are having the water fluoridation system installed.

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10 posted on 10/04/2005 9:20:09 AM PDT by Hoplite
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Humm

They had less complicated systems on hummers used in GWI to extract water from exhaust.

Is this better because some big defense contractor came up with the system? Or just less oily?


11 posted on 10/04/2005 9:26:48 AM PDT by ASOC (Insert clever tagline here: _______)
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