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Washing Their Hands Of the Last Frontier [For Many Immigrants, Dishwasher Is a Turnoff]
Washington Post ^ | October 8, 2005 | By Phuong Ly, Washington Post Staff Writer

Posted on 10/08/2005 7:14:39 AM PDT by aculeus

A couple of months ago, in the privacy of his Reston townhouse, Alan Chien made a final break from cultural tradition, a guilt-filled decision he has yet to share with his parents.

He used his dishwasher. He knows his parents will not understand. "They don't believe in it," said Chien, 35, an engineer who emigrated with his family from Taiwan when he was a toddler. "Just because they never used it, I never used it, so it was just a mysterious thing to me."

In many immigrant homes, the automatic dishwasher is the last frontier. Long after new arrivals pick up football, learn the intricacies of the multiplex and the DMV and develop a taste for pizza, they resist the dishwasher. Some joke that not using the appliance is one of the truest signs of immigrant heritage, whether they hail from Africa, Latin America, Asia or Eastern Europe.

If they have a dishwasher -- and many do, because it is standard equipment in most homes -- it becomes a glorified dish rack, a Tupperware storage cabinet or a snack-food bin. It's never turned on.

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TOPICS: Extended News
KEYWORDS: assimilation; dishwashers
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1 posted on 10/08/2005 7:14:39 AM PDT by aculeus
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To: aculeus

Probably a lot like the shower


2 posted on 10/08/2005 7:17:07 AM PDT by Khepera (Do not remove by penalty of law!)
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To: Khepera

LOL!


3 posted on 10/08/2005 7:19:39 AM PDT by Skooz ("Political Correctness is the handmaiden of terrorism" - Michelle Malkin)
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To: aculeus
...they resist the dishwasher. Some joke that not using the appliance is one of the truest signs of immigrant heritage.

Not only do I not have a dishwasher, I don't even have a garbage disposal. That's what dogs are for. :)

"Hey Fido, lick this plate off for me, will ya?"

4 posted on 10/08/2005 7:25:09 AM PDT by DumpsterDiver
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To: aculeus

I have a girlfriend who came from Israel (legally - she is now a citizen). When she first came here, and didnt't yet speak English, she tried to show her appreciation by doing the housework for the family that took her in.

We always felt bad - we would still be eating, and she would be in the; kitchen washing dishes by hand. We tried several times to get her to use the dishwasher but she wouldn't consider it. After she got a better command of English she told me that she just didn't think something mechanical could get anything clean enough.

It probably took her two years to break down and use a dishwasher. She laughs at it with me now, and said it's the greatest invention in the world - how could she have resisted using it?


5 posted on 10/08/2005 7:34:54 AM PDT by I still care (America is not the problem - it is the solution..)
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To: DumpsterDiver

"Not only do I not have a dishwasher, I don't even have a garbage disposal. That's what dogs are for. :)"

We didn't get air conditioning until I was nine and NEVER had a dishwasher or disposal. The dishwasher was me. You can live without those things.


6 posted on 10/08/2005 7:39:03 AM PDT by dljordan
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To: Khepera

And a flush toilet


7 posted on 10/08/2005 7:39:16 AM PDT by joesnuffy
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To: aculeus
Yuck. There is no way you can get dishes as clean with hand-washing as you can with a dishwasher, because the dishwasher heats water up about 40 degrees hotter than the water that comes out of the tap. Even if you wash by hand while wearing rubber gloves, which very few people do, the hottest water you can use is probably 140 degrees F. Most people wash with bare hands which means they're using water that's only 110 degrees, if that. So their dishes will still probably have germs on them. Then they dry them with a towel, sort of smearing the germs around from one dish to another. As I say, yuck. A dishwasher is a lot more sanitary.

Anyway, it's nice that immigrants have all this spare time to stand in front of the sink. But if I'm going to spend time with my family I don't want to spend it washing dishes. There are a million more interesting things to do.

8 posted on 10/08/2005 7:42:47 AM PDT by Fairview
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To: aculeus

Ha. This article is hilarious, and it would take a reporter such as Phuong Ly (a Vietnamese name) to write it.

My wife is Vietnamese, a U.S. citizen, here for seven years, and still has never, ever, not once, used the dishwasher.

She thinks it's great when I use it, but other than that it's a complete cipher. She won't load it or unload it on her own volition under any circumstances. I don't think she's ever opened the dishwasher door.

I could put a million dollars in there and my wife would never see it.


9 posted on 10/08/2005 7:48:53 AM PDT by angkor
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To: Fairview
Yuck. There is no way you can get dishes as clean with hand-washing as you can with a dishwasher

In defense of handwashing, the human race has progressed quite admirably without dishwashing machines right up to the 1970's when they first became generally available to homeowners.

10 posted on 10/08/2005 7:53:16 AM PDT by angkor
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To: aculeus

It's even a smaller percentage that know how to use their credit card in a store, or that it's ok to use cash for purchases less than $3.00.


11 posted on 10/08/2005 7:55:27 AM PDT by jiggyboy (Ten percent of poll respondents are either lying or insane)
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To: angkor
In India I believe the majority of people don't use utensils(forks, chop sticks) although they probably could afford them.

IIRC they only use the right hand to eat food, because the left hand is considered "unclean".

12 posted on 10/08/2005 8:00:58 AM PDT by Dane ( anyone who believes hillary would do something to stop illegal immigration is believing gibberish)
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To: Khepera

*snurgle*


13 posted on 10/08/2005 8:02:47 AM PDT by martin_fierro (< |:)~)
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To: aculeus
If they have a dishwasher -- and many do, because it is standard equipment in most homes -- it becomes a glorified dish rack, a Tupperware storage cabinet or a snack-food bin.

Or a crib for the babies of all the families that live in the home.

14 posted on 10/08/2005 8:03:51 AM PDT by linkinpunk
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To: Dane

At an overseas Tamil restaurant once, all the Tamils were on the left side eating with their hands, and all the expat foreigners were on the right side eating with utensils.

Both sides were constantly sneaking curious looks at each other.

It was funny.


15 posted on 10/08/2005 8:04:39 AM PDT by angkor
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I dont care if the water is 240 degrees the dishes get much cleaner by hand because of the ability of detergents as surfactants with the water. I won't eat off anyone's plates unless they have been washed with somthing other than hot water.. and no, sprinkling detergent in the bottom doesnt work. Gag! Anyone even familiar with the cleansing properties of water knows that for the same reason a dragonfly can walk on the lake, water alone, even hot water, won't clean anything.
Just gross. And please don't put dirty dishes in clean water, it makes the water dirty.
Dip your sponge in the clean hot detergent water, then clean the dishes in the empty sink. When they are clean, put them in the soapy water until you can rinse.
People gross me out with their dishes. I always look and would rather use paper plates at most homes.


16 posted on 10/08/2005 8:05:04 AM PDT by momincombatboots (Those who are too smart to engage in politics are punished by being governed by those who are dumber)
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To: angkor
Me too...took about 5 years before I fixed the dishwasher and started to use it.

First try was with washing machine detergent and promptly filled the kitchen with foam.

17 posted on 10/08/2005 8:07:43 AM PDT by spokeshave
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To: aculeus

The great futurist Robert Heinlein loved the job of dishwasher. He opined that they were always needed, even in the most desperate of times.

Not only is there always a demand, but the demand is everywhere. If you have the itch to travel and see the world, dishwashing is the ticket.

For more detail and a great read, see his novel JOBE.


18 posted on 10/08/2005 8:07:47 AM PDT by bert (K.E. ; N.P . I smell a dead rat in Baton Rouge!)
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To: angkor
In defense of handwashing, the human race has progressed quite admirably without dishwashing machines right up to the 1970's when they first became generally available to homeowners.

True. But old graveyards are full of people who died of infectious diseases, and one of the reasons our life expectancy is higher today is that our lives are just cleaner than they were a hundred years ago, so not everything we did in the past was better than what we have today. I'll bet people can get respiratory and intestinal illnesses from bacteria left on dishes.

19 posted on 10/08/2005 8:10:22 AM PDT by Fairview
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To: spokeshave
First try was with washing machine detergent and promptly filled the kitchen with foam.

My wife would kill me if she knew I was posting this, but that's what she did on her "learning curve" with washing machines: a floor entirely covered with soap foam.

20 posted on 10/08/2005 8:15:54 AM PDT by angkor
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