Posted on 10/09/2005 11:03:19 AM PDT by FairOpinion
Let's all remember one thing: regardless of what the Clintonistas say to cover their butts, this book HAD to be vetted by the FBI for truthfulness before it could be published.
There's an epi, I forget which series, in which a doctor puts a patient's blood in a silicon tube, and implants it in
his own arm in order to fool a DNA test for something like paternity.
Too bad for the doctor that the patient was on the lam for something more serious, and kills the doctor to keep him
from identifying the blood "donor".
Oh, the crime stories that the Bent One inspires.
Good point!
Bubba placed extorting contributions of his "liebrary" above our national security. But is anyone suprised?
Thanks. I did not know that.
> Anyone with a crystal ball?
Only hindsight. No investigation, no lawsuit. A continued thrashing about to establish a legacy. Maybe a little tarnish on the Hildebeast's armor.
Still the fight goes on. There are millions who will doggedly persue the impeached POS until he burns in hell. We will watch 60 Min tonight, we will buy the book. And clinton will live another day thirsting for universal adulation.
May I add one to your litany of malfeasances?
In Clinton's first budget, one set of line items were actually designated for a spending cut! Not a reduction in the rate of growth, but a smaller expenditure year-to-year.
It was the Border Patrol and Customs Service...
We'll be hearing about Clinton scandals for the rest of our lives.
I think that was in there but could wrong. It's worth reposting, regardless. Just wishing for more/better dirt.
Yet somehow it was the VRWC that cause it all.
Let me guess who: Carville, Rahm Emmanuel, Gore, Berger, Lanny Davis, etc. etc.
Same sleazes who defended Slimeball before.
Maybe they should have just left a Playboy in the men's room and let Stainman leave a sample in the sink.
He'd screw a snake in a rock pile.
Daniel Benjamin - jounalist for the Wall Street Journal & Time Magazine & director of counterterrorism on Clinton's National Security Council
"the period of the transition was so acrimonious and so contentious"
Because CLINTON REFUSED LEAVE!!!
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Daniel Benjamin, from the preliminary reports from the commission, from a full day of testimony detailing the Clinton administration, the transition in the early days of the Bush administration, did either government understand what they were dealing with with al-Qaida?
DANIEL BENJAMIN: I think both administrations understood in part what it was dealing with in terms of al-Qaida. I think that by the latter years of the Clinton administration, certainly the White House understood, I think, parts of the CIA understood quite well, parts of DOD, the Defense Department, understood quite well. There were some of the farther reaches of the bureaucracy did not understand quite well and the FBI in this period was really sort of an independent actor, so you had a lot of concentrated effort to keep -- keep the effort up and to try to find bin Laden and to try to destroy the command-and-control structure of al-Qaida but of course it was a very difficult time.
There wasn't the basis for an invasion and we had a hard time finding the necessary intelligence so it's a very frustrating period. As for the new team, I think that Secretary Powell, for example, who I know listened to several briefings and was very concerned about this problem did take it seriously but I think overall we had a real problem. That is that the period of the transition was so acrimonious and so contentious and there was so much...
RAY SUAREZ: Not to mention short.
DANIEL BENJAMIN: Not to mention short -- so much disdain for the outgoing administration on the part of the new team that there was a reluctance to believe that the threat was as big as it was made up to be -- as big as the Clinton administration personnel and also the permanent civil servants claimed. There was I think a period in which there just was a lot of disbelief.
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Remember, the number of people who had been killed by terrorism in the decade of the '90s was fewer than the number of people killed by bee stings or lightning and so there was a very different perspective on the nature of the threat. It was believed to be good theater -- very important for nationalist groups that were trying to get recognition but not a central threat to the United States. Catastrophic terror as a phenomenon had not yet occurred.
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I THOUGHT THERE WAS NO CONNECTION OF OSAMA BIN LADEN TO IRAQ according to the MEDIA & the CLINTON groupies!!!
Read below...
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Wouldn't the bombing of a plant with well-documented connections to Iraq's chemical weapons program, undertaken in an effort to strike back at Osama bin Laden's terrorist network, seem to suggest the Clinton administration national security officials believed Iraq was working with al Qaeda?
(DANIEL) Benjamin, who has been one of the leading skeptics of claims that Iraq was working with al Qaeda, doesn't want to connect those dots.
Instead, he describes al Qaeda and Iraq as unwitting collaborators. "The Iraqi connection with al Shifa, given what we know about it, does not yet meet the test as proof of a substantive relationship because it isn't clear that one side knew the other side's involvement. That is, it is not clear that the Iraqis knew about bin Laden's well-concealed investment in the Sudanese Military Industrial Corporation.
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It does sound less than satisfying to one Bush administration official. "So, when the Clinton administration wants to justify its strike on al Shifa," this official tells me, "it's okay to use an Iraq-al Qaeda connection. But now that the Bush administration and George Tenet talk about links, it's suddenly not believable?"
The Clinton administration heavily emphasized the Iraq link to justify its 1998 strikes against al Qaeda. Just four days before the embassy bombings, Saddam Hussein had once again stepped up his defiance of U.N. weapons inspectors, causing what Senator Richard Lugar called another Iraqi "crisis." Undersecretary of State Thomas Pickering, one of those in the small circle of Clinton advisers involved in planning the strikes, briefed foreign reporters on August 25, 1998. He was asked about the connection directly and answered carefully.
Q: Ambassador Pickering, do you know of any connection between the so-called pharmaceutical plant in Khartoum and the Iraqi government in regard to production of precursors of VX?
PICKERING: Yeah, I would like to consult my notes just to be sure that what I have to say is stated clearly and correctly. We see evidence that we think is quite clear on contacts between Sudan and Iraq. In fact, al Shifa officials, early in the company's history, we believe were in touch with Iraqi individuals associated with Iraq's VX program.
Ambassador Bill Richardson, at the time U.S. ambassador to the United Nations, echoed those sentiments in an appearance on CNN's "Late Edition with Wolf Blitzer," on August 30, 1998. He called the targeting "one of the finest hours of our intelligence people."
"We know for a fact, physical evidence, soil samples of VX precursor--chemical precursor at the site," said Richardson. "Secondly, Wolf, direct evidence of ties between Osama bin Laden and the Military Industrial Corporation--the al Shifa factory was part of that. This is an operation--a collection of buildings that does a lot of this dirty munitions stuff. And, thirdly, there is no evidence that this precursor has a commercial application. So, you combine that with Sudan support for terrorism, their connections with Iraq on VX, and you combine that, also, with the chemical precursor issue, and Sudan's leadership support for Osama bin Laden, and you've got a pretty clear cut case."
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But the media failed to understand the case, according to Daniel Benjamin, who was a reporter himself before joining the Clinton National Security Council. "Intelligence is always incomplete, typically composed of pieces that refuse to fit neatly together and are subject to competing interpretations," writes Benjamin with coauthor Steven Simon in the 2002 book "The Age of Sacred Terror." "By disclosing the intelligence, the administration was asking journalists to connect the dots--assemble bits of evidence and construct a picture that would account for all the disparate information. In response, reporters cast doubt on the validity of each piece of the information provided and thus on the case for attacking al Shifa."
Now, however, there's a new wrinkle. Bush administration officials largely agree with their predecessors. "There's pretty good intelligence linking al Shifa to Iraq and also good information linking al Shifa to al Qaeda," says one administration official familiar with the intelligence. "I don't think there's much dispute that [Sudan's Military Industrial Corporation] was al Qaeda supported. The link from al Shifa to Iraq is what there is more dispute about."
According to this official, U.S. intelligence has obtained Iraqi documents showing that the head of al Shifa had been granted permission by the Iraqi government to travel to Baghdad to meet with Emad al-Ani, often described as "the father of Iraq's chemical weapons program." Said the official: "The reports can confirm that the trip was authorized, but the travel part hasn't been confirmed yet."
So why hasn't the Bush administration mentioned the al Shifa connection in its public case for war in Iraq? Even if one accepts Benjamin's proposition that Iraq may not have known that it was arming al Qaeda and that al Qaeda may not have known its chemicals came from Iraq, doesn't al Shifa demonstrate convincingly the dangers of attempting to "contain" a maniacal leader with WMD?
According to Bush officials, two factors contributed to their reluctance to discuss the Iraq-al Qaeda connection suggested by al Shifa. First, the level of proof never rose above the threshold of "highly suggestive circumstantial evidence"--indicating that on this question, Bush administration policymakers were somewhat more cautious about the public use of intelligence on the Iraq-al Qaeda connection than were their counterparts in the Clinton administration. Second, according to one Bush administration source, "there is a massive sensitivity at the Agency to bringing up this issue again because of the controversy in 1998."
The best part of the story was evidently "liquidated" too..
The Clinton View of Iraq-al Qaeda Ties
From the December 29, 2003 / January 5, 2004 issue: Connecting the dots in 1998, but not in 2003.
by Stephen F. Hayes
Democrats who before the war discounted the possibility of any connection between Iraq and al Qaeda have largely fallen silent. And in recent days, two prowar Democrats have spoken openly about the relationship. Evan Bayh, a Democrat from Indiana who sits on the Intelligence Committee, told THE WEEKLY STANDARD, "the relationship seemed to have its roots in mutual exploitation. Saddam Hussein used terrorism for his own ends, and Osama bin Laden used a nation-state for the things that only a nation-state can provide."
And Joe Lieberman, the Connecticut Democrat and presidential candidate, discussed the connections in an appearance last week on MSNBC's "Hardball with Chris Matthews." Said Lieberman: "I want to be real clear about the connection with terrorists. I've seen a lot of evidence on this. There are extensive contacts between Saddam Hussein's government and al Qaeda and other terrorist groups. I never could reach the conclusion that [Saddam] was part of September 11. Don't get me wrong about that. But there was so much smoke there that it made me worry. And you know, some people say with a great facility, al Qaeda and Saddam could never get together. He is secular and they're theological. But there's something that tied them together. It's their hatred of us."
Stephen F. Hayes is a staff writer at The Weekly Standard.
I had no idea!
Well, lets see if that gets reported on the Sunday morning news circuses.
The idea of using the phrase "moral compass" and "Bill Clinton" in the same sentence is totally dissonant, in and of itself.
What was that about SELECTING people to work in government WITHOUT qualifications?!!! CLINTON SELECTED him for counterterrorism which included coordinating U.S. counterterrorism policy!!!!!!!!!!!!
NO WONDER thousands of innocent people were killed by TERRORISTS! A JOURNALIST was running CLINTON'S counterterroism "policy"!!! HELLO!!!
geez, kcvl, klinton was truly inept.
Klinton:
One dangerous, immature, devoid of understanding of his oath of office mixed up aged hippie.
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