Still safe with US Mail Delivery!
Posted on 10/25/2005 6:59:09 AM PDT by SheLion
ALBANY, N.Y. - The world's largest shipping carrier, UPS Inc., will stop delivering cigarettes to individuals in the United States under an agreement announced Monday with state Attorney General Eliot Spitzer.
The agreement is the latest in federal and state efforts to combat the sale of under-taxed cigarette and to fight underage smoking. Most under-taxed or untaxed cigarettes are sold by Indian tribes, where the taxation of sales to non-Indians is disputed.
Monday's agreement leaves only the U.S. Postal Service among major carriers to continue to deliver cigarettes to individuals, Spitzer said. He called that practice "an embarrassment." Spitzer continues to negotiate with Federal Express, but they are thought to handle a small amount of the trade, said Spitzer spokesman Marc Violette.
Despite a new policy adopted by the Postal Service in September to refuse delivery of illegal products, the federal service allows employees to accept packages suspected of containing under-taxed cigarettes, Spitzer said.
"Internet cigarette traffickers are increasingly using the federal mail system to distribute their wares," Spitzer said. He said the Postal Service "clearly" has the authority to refuse to deliver cigarettes to individual smokers. "It is an embarrassment that major private companies have stopped carrying contraband cigarettes, but the federal government continues to accept them," said Spitzer, a Democrat running for governor. "Congress needs to step in and stop this practice immediately."
The Postal Service can't stop delivery even if it suspects a package clearly marked as coming from a retailer contains untaxed cigarettes, said Postal Service spokesman Gerry McKiernan.
"There could be souvenirs in the package. We don't know because we can't see inside the package," he said.
Instead, the Postal Service will watch for packages if advised by law enforcement agencies. They also will alert law enforcement agencies when the service is shipping those packages, he said.
"It's up to law enforcement agencies to enforce the law," McKiernan said.
He said private companies have contracts with firms that regularly use their services which identifies materials being shipped. The Postal Service doesn't.
"As far as I'm concerned, it's illegal," said Audrey Silk of New York City Citizens Lobbying Against Smoker Harassment and a Libertarian Party candidate for New York City mayor. "They are exploiting children ... when you employ `for the children' you can get the public to do anything."
Earlier this year, DHL banned cigarette deliveries to individuals nationwide and the nation's largest credit card companies stopped processing payments for cigarette sales.
Spitzer said Internet and mail-order cigarette retailers violate federal, state and local laws governing taxes and underage smoking. Sales to minors also violate federal wire fraud and mail fraud laws, he said.
The agreement with Spitzer matches a nationwide policy at UPS aimed at avoiding the difficulty of complying with a "patchwork" of different state laws enacted in 28 states since 2003, said Steve Holmes, spokesman for the global company based in Atlanta. He said he had no estimate of how much business would be lost.
"Regardless of that issue, we believe it's a prudent business decision and we want to do what's right, of course, by the laws, but we want to do right by our customers and we want to do right by our communities as well," he said.
Violations of the UPS policy would eventually result in suspension of service, according to the agreement.
States lose more than $1 billion a year in tax revenue from Internet tobacco sales, according to the U.S. Bureau of Alcohol, Tobacco and Firearms. Enforcement, however, has been difficult, even though in many states, including New York, the Internet sale of tobacco products is illegal.
"There could be souvenirs in the package. We don't know because we can't see inside the package," he said.
Still safe with US Mail Delivery!
Can't stand the high taxes?
Afraid to order off of the Internet?
Then start rolling your own!!! I find everything but the machine downtown at the local Smoke Shop. Also, Rite Aid and grocery stores also sell the bags of tobacco and the filtered tubes.
I roll out a beautiful carton for a little under $8 dollars. Premiums in my state are now up to $45-$50 a carton. Can you imagine the money I have saved over the past 4 years since I now roll my own? It's mind boggling.
under $50.00
$5.75 a bag
$1.99 for 200 filtered tubes
and
"States lose more than $1 billion a year in tax revenue from Internet tobacco sales,...."
How does a state loose revenue? Are they somehow entitled to the earnings of others, even before the money is earned? What is the definition of slavery?
Eliot Spitzer is one scary man.
Anyone want to make a bet on how long before cigerettes and other tobacco products are illegal? I say 10 years or less.
Yep.
To easy. Do you really expect our lawmakers to have that many smarts? I sure don't. :(
I always thought congress had the power to regulate interstate congress, not a megalomaniac attorney general from a failed northeastern state.
The lawmakers are spending our money faster then we can make it?
Why doesn't Eliot Spitzer get a real job. Can't he find something more productive to do? And which Constitution gives him the authority to interfere with Interstate Commerce?
Yet we are to be happy with gay rights and the legal sale of pot and alcohol?
... and this immediately leads the nanny-statists to one conclusion: Spitzer for president!
Of course if they do this, all they do is provide a way to get smokers thier cigarettes even cheaper.
Think prohibition. The Kennedy's made a fortune bootlegging during that era.
Maybe that's it, the Democrat's rich morons, are running out of money, and need some bootlegging to get them rolling in the green again..
Unfortunately, Congress is trying to put a stop to that. Since the United States Postal Service will deliver tobacco products, HR 2813 was introduced in the House on June 8, 2005 "to make cigarettes and certain other tobacco products non-mailable".
For more information, go to thomas.loc.gov and do a search using the bill number.
I received this in email not too long ago:
You do realize that the state of New York, or any state, cannot collect taxes on sales from other states, don’t you?
Article 1, section 9 of the Constitution for the United States of America, paragraph 5 states simply: “No Tax or Duty shall be laid on Articles exported from any State.”
Ain’t it amazing how our constitution is ignored? I think it should be required reading in our schools and a requirement that one is well-versed in our Bill of Rights before one can get a drivers’ license or a job. However, the government frowns on a truly educated society, especially one that is educated on their rights.
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