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No Distinction Between Terrorists, Those Who Support Them, Bush Says
American Forces Press Service ^ | Oct 25, 2005 | Sgt. Sara Wood, USA

Posted on 10/25/2005 10:55:07 PM PDT by SandRat

WASHINGTON, Oct. 25, 2005 – The U.S. is determined to deny radical groups the support and sanctuary of outlaw regimes like Syria and Iran, President Bush said here today.

Speaking to the Joint Armed Forces Officers' Wives Luncheon at Bolling Air Force Base, Bush said that these governments have a long history of collaboration with terrorists and deserve no patience from the victims of terror.

"Any government that chooses to be an ally of terror has chosen to be an enemy of civilization," Bush said. "The civilized world must hold those regimes to account."

The U.N. Security Council will hear a new report this week from an independent commission that points to Syrian involvement in the terrorist bombing that killed former Lebanese Prime Minister Rafic Hariri and 22 others in February, Bush said.

"Syria is destabilizing Lebanon, permitting terrorists to use its territory to reach Iraq, and giving safe harbor to Palestinian terrorist groups," he said. "Now the United Nations must act, and Syria and its leaders must be held accountable for their continuing support for terrorism, including any involvement in the murder of Prime Minister Hariri."

The U.S. is also working to deny the terrorists control of any nation for use as a home base or launching pad, Bush said. Troops are working to defeat the Taliban and remnants of al Qaeda in Afghanistan and to isolate terrorists in Pakistan, he said. The terrorists' ultimate goal is to destabilize the Middle East and attack America and other free nations with increasing violence, but the U.S. has a clear strategy to prevent that from happening, he said.

"Our goal is to defeat the terrorists and their allies at the heart of their power," he said. "And so, we will defeat the enemy in Iraq."

American and Iraqi troops have conducted several major assaults in recent weeks to rid western Iraq of enemy fighters and to shut down terrorist entry routes from Syria, Bush said. The Iraqi troops have been using their local expertise to ensure the success of these operations and are often staying behind to maintain security after U.S. forces move on, he said.

The Iraqi military has been gaining new capabilities and the country has made steady progress toward democracy, Bush said. "Progress isn't easy, but it is steady," he said. "No fair-minded person should ignore, deny or dismiss the achievements of the Iraqi people."

Bush dismissed recent speculation that arguments among the different religious factions point to an unstable democracy in Iraq, saying that debate is the essence of democracy. A democratic government is, in fact, the best solution for Iraq, because it will respect the rights and beliefs of all religious groups and give all citizens a stake in their country's future, he said.

"As Americans, we believe that people everywhere prefer freedom to slavery and that liberty, once chosen, improves the lives of all," he said. "And so we're confident, as our coalition and the Iraqi people each do their part, Iraqi democracy will succeed."


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Be afraid, be very afraid, very very afraid.

1 posted on 10/25/2005 10:55:08 PM PDT by SandRat
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"FAR LEFT UNIVERSITY Professors DNC "


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BINGO. When are we going to hold them to accoung?


2 posted on 10/25/2005 10:57:22 PM PDT by FairOpinion (CA Props: Vote for Reform: YES on 73-78, NO on 79 & 80, NO on Y)
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To: 2LT Radix jr; 68-69TonkinGulfYachtClub; 80 Square Miles; A Ruckus of Dogs; acad1228; AirForceMom; ..

Supporters of terrorists and terrorists we're coming for you. You won't know when, or where, or how, but we are coming for you.


3 posted on 10/25/2005 10:57:36 PM PDT by SandRat (Duty, Honor, Country. What else needs to be said?)
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To: SandRat

Delenda est Syria, atque Persia.

(Delendae sunt Syria, atque Persia?)


4 posted on 10/25/2005 10:58:33 PM PDT by ZULU (Fear the government which fears your guns. God, guts, and guns made America great.)
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To: SandRat

Don`t mean to make you sick, but just think about what the war on terrorism would look like with President Gore, Kerry, Or Hillary. Thank GOD for GWB


5 posted on 10/25/2005 11:02:46 PM PDT by bybybill (remember, the fish come first)
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To: SandRat

Pakistan must be shaking in its boots. Or maybe not...they are waiting for their US supplied 80 F16s to use against the dreaded Taliban. Thier current stock of 36 F16s have not been able to do the job, but I'm sure these new 80 jets will keep the Taliban at bay.


6 posted on 10/25/2005 11:07:02 PM PDT by USMMA_83 (Tantra is my fetish ;))
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http://www.ict.org.il/articles/articledet.cfm?articleid=99

In the history of the Indian civil aviation, there have been 13 hijackings (including the latest to Kandahar), all involving the Indian Airlines (IA) aircraft. Seven of these were carried out by groups with known links to Pakistan's Inter-Services Intelligence (ISI) and the other six by groups or individuals with no such links.

Of the seven ISI-linked groups, six were indigenous (Sikh and Kashmiri terrorists) and the seventh (the latest) is a Pakistan-based Islamic Jihadi terrorist group, which has been active in the Philippines, Myanmar, India, the Central Asian Republics, the Xinjiang province of China and Chechnya and Dagestan in Russia, and which claims to have trained a small group of Afro-American citizens of the US in the past.

The fact that ISI-linked groups generally hijack only IA and not Air India flights is due to the fact that during their training in Pakistan, they are instructed by the ISI to avoid Air India flights, which are likely to contain a large number of foreigners. This could create problems for Pakistan with Western Governments and their intelligence agencies might focus their investigation on the Pakistani involvement.

On January 30,1971, brothers Hashim and Ashraf Quereshi of the Jammu & Kashmir Liberation Front, armed with a pistol and a hand grenade, hijacked Ganga, a Fokker Friendship aircraft of the Indian Airlines (IA), after it had taken off from Srinagar for Jammu and forced the pilot to take it to Lahore.

After the aircraft had landed, Zuklfiquar Ali Bhutto, then Foreign Minister under Yahya Khan, rushed to Lahore, fraternised with the hijackers and helped them get maximum international publicity for their cause. On February 1, he persuaded them to release the crew and passengers who were sent by road to Amritsar.

The Government of India sought the permission of the Pakistani authorities to send a replacement crew to fly the aircraft back to India. The ISI handed over to the hijackers explosives with which they blew up the aircraft the next day.

On February 4, in retaliation, Indira Gandhi, the then Prime Minister, banned all Pakistani civil and military overflights through Indian airspace, which remained in force till the normalisation of relations after the Shimla Agreement. The consequent aggravation of the logistic difficulties of the Pakistan army in the then East Pakistan partly contributed to its debacle in its war with India in December 1971.

The Dal Khalsa, a Sikh extremist group that came into being in the late 1970s, took to hijacking as a weapon of intimidation in 1981. Between September 29,1981, and August 24, 1984, it hijacked four IA aircraft and took them to Lahore. The hijackers of September 29,1981, were overpowered by Pakistani commandos and the released passengers, crew and aircraft returned to India.

The Zia-ul-Haq regime turned down the request of the Govt. of India to hand over the hijackers to India for trial and said they would be tried before a Pakistani court. Instead of doing so, it allowed the hijackers to live in the Nankana Sahib gurudwara at Lahore, from where they were directing the terrorist activities of the Dal Khalsa in Punjab. The Govt. of India repeatedly brought this to the notice of the US, but Washington was reluctant to act against the Zia regime, which had started playing an important role for the US in Afghanistan.

However, in 1982, the Zia regime refused permission to two hijacked planes to land in Lahore and forced them back to Amritsar, where the hijacking was terminated by the Indian authorities.

Dr.Jagjit Singh Chauhan of the so-called Khalistan movement based in London, and Ganga Singh Dhillon of the Washington-based Nankana Sahib Foundation, who was a close personal friend of Zia, strongly protested to Zia over the refusal of permission.

When a fourth IA plane was hijacked by the Sikh terrorists to Lahore on August 24,1984, Zia, therefore, ordered the ISI to permit it to land, help the hijackers to meet the media and then persuade them to go away to Dubai. The ISI found that the hijackers had intimidated the pilot only with a toy pistol. They, therefore, gave them a German pistol with ammunition.

After terminating the hijacking at Dubai, the local authorities handed over to the Indian officials the hijackers and the pistol given to them at Lahore.The Govt. of India referred the pistol to the West German authorities, who replied in writing that the pistol, manufactured in Germany, was part of a consignment sold to the Pakistan Government by the German manufacturers.

The Govt. of India brought this German report to the notice of Washington and sought action against the Zia regime. Under US pressure, Zia ordered the removal of the Dal Khalsa hijackers from the Nankana Sahib to the Lahore jail. They were tried and sentenced to imprisonment, on completion of which expelled from Pakistan. Thereafter, there was no ISI-inspired hijacking till Gen.Pervez Musharraf seized power on October 12,1999.

In 1992, the Narasimha Rao Government shared with Washington a wealth of evidence gathered by the Indian agencies regarding Pakistani State sponsorship of terrorism in India and urged that Pakistan should be declared a State sponsor of terrorism under the US laws and economic sanctions imposed against it.

Washington expressed its inability to act on the basis of Indian evidence on the ground that most of it was circumstantial and not direct and that much of it was based on interrogation reports, which, in the eyes of the US law, are suspect unless independently corroborated by documentary or technical evidence.

After the Mumbai blasts of March, 1993, the Narasimha Rao Govt. decided to invite the counter-terrorism experts of the US and other Western countries to visit the spot immediately after the blasts and make their own examination of the scene of the crime. The idea was that if their experts concluded that Pakistan was behind the blasts, even if they did not share this with their Indian counterparts, they would, at least, go back and tell their political leadership about it.

An Austrian expert, who came to India, gave in writing that the hand grenades used by the terrorists in Mumbai while escaping after the blasts had been manufactured in an ordnance factory of the Pakistan Government with technology and machine tools supplied by the Austrian company.

The US experts told their Indian counterparts that a timer found with an unexploded explosive device looked suspiciously American and wanted to take it to the US for examination. They were allowed to do so. Later, they sent to New Delhi an unsigned written report (a non paper) that their examination had established that the timer was of US-origin and was part of a consignment of timers supplied by the US army to Pakistan's.

The Govt. of India pointed out that this was the clinching corroborative evidence, which they had always wanted, and that, therefore, they should not have any further difficulty in declaring Pakistan a State-sponsor of terrorism.

US officials expressed their inability to do so on the ground that there was considerable leakage of arms and ammunition and explosives from the Pakistan army stocks to smugglers and that the recovery of this timer in Mumbai did not necessarily mean that it was given to the terrorists by an official agency of Pakistan. According to them, to declare a country as a State sponsor of terrorism, conclusive evidence of the complicity of an official agency and knowledge, if not approval, of such complicity by the political leadership was essential.

After rejecting the Indian plea, Washington made its own assessment of ISI involvement in terrorism in India and forced Mr.Nawaz Sharif, the then Prime Minister, to remove from the ISI its then Director-General, Lt.Gen.Javed Nasir, and a number of his senior officers who, Washington believed, had a role in promoting terrorism.

While this action was good in so far as it went, it did not help the Government of India since their successors continued to organise terrorist acts in Indian territory. The US action against the ISI officers, however, resulted in an important change in the ISI's modus operandi (MO).

Previously, the ISI used to interact directly with the Sikh, Kashmiri and other terrorist groups from India and run the training camps for them with the help of serving officers. Since then, it has been increasingly using private Islamic terrorist organisations for supplying money and equipment to the terrorists in India and for running the training camps in Afghan territory, instead of in Pakistani territory.

Among such organisations used by the ISI are the Harkat-ul-Mujahideen (HUM), previously known as the Harkat-ul-Ansar, which was declared by the US as an international terrorist organisation in October, 1997, the Lashkar-e-Toiba, the Al Badr and Osama bin Laden's Al Qaeda. All these organisations are members of bin Laden's International Islamic Front (also called the International Islamic Salvation Front) for Jihad Against the US and Israel.

There is the following strong evidence of the HUM's involvement in the Kandahar hijacking: the only phone call claiming responsibility came from an Islamic Salvation Front; there were identical names in the lists of prisoners whose release was demanded by the phone-caller and by the hijackers; the prisoners, whose release was demanded, were Pakistani nationals or of Pakistani origin and belonged to the HUM.

The involvement of the ISI and the Pakistan army with these organisations and particularly the HUM, would be evident from the following:

These organisations function openly in Pakistan and their annual conventions are attended by serving officers of the army and political leaders. They and their leaders address press conferences, give interviews and issue statements giving details of their terrorist activities in India and other countries. The Army has not taken any action against them--not even against the HUM, which has been declared an international terrorist organisation by the US.
The investigastion and trial in 1995 by the Benazir Bhutto regime of a group of army officers headed by Major-Gen.Zaheer-ul-Islam Abbasi arrested on a charge of planning a coup brought out that all the arrested officers had close links with the HUM. Mr.M.H.Askari , the well-known Pakistani columnist, wrote in the "Dawn" (October 18,1995) as follows: " It is said that the plotters had close links with the Hizbul Mujahideen and the Harkat-ul-Ansar, which are known for their involvement in international terrorism. It is also said that the arrested officers wanted Pakistan to become militarily involved in the Kashmir freedom struggle." It was said that during their interrogation the arrested officers also implicated Gen. Pervez Musharraf, then a Lt.Gen. and Director-General of Military Operations, but no action was taken against him for want of evidence.
The Govt. of India should once again take up with the US the question of declaring Pakistan a State-sponsor of Terrorism and with the International Civil Aviation Organisation the question of advising member-countries to suspend the Pakistan International Airways flights till Pakistan arrests and hands over the hijackers and stops such acts of terrorism.
US officials have been repeatedly rejecting Indian evidence of Pakistani sponsorship of terrorism as circumstantial and not direct, but in the New York World Trade Centre and Oklahoma bombing cases, US courts have ruled that in terrorism-related cases conviction could be based purely on circumstantial evidence, if it was strong enough and provided a continuous chain of events.






The writer is Additional Secretary (retd), Cabinet Secretariat, Govt. of India,and, presently, Director, Institute for Topical Studies, Chennai.
E-Mail:corde@vsnl.com

ICT ISRAEL - Countering Terrorism’s Global Reach

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7 posted on 10/25/2005 11:11:07 PM PDT by CarrotAndStick (The articles posted by me needn't necessarily reflect my opinion.)
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To: SandRat

Cindy Sheehan just had an involuntary BM upon hearing this news...


8 posted on 10/25/2005 11:23:57 PM PDT by Triggerhippie (Plus ça change, plus c'est la même chose.)
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Who should be afraid? I can walk back and forth between Mexico and the U.S. These people that want to hurt us are a lot smarter than the wetbacks. My president is letting me down. He is allowing the terrorists to gain entry into my country, and he doesn't seem to care. Congress approved money for 2200? new border patrol agents. The Pres payed for 200. Tell me how he is protecting the United States Of America. Does he WANT another 9/11?


9 posted on 10/25/2005 11:25:44 PM PDT by mirkwood (torquemada on talkcity)
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No Distinction Between Terrorists, Those Who Support Them, Bush Says

Is Bush really going to prosecute the radical liberals in the US?! The DUmmies must be shaking in their boots.

10 posted on 10/25/2005 11:34:41 PM PDT by highlander_UW (I don't know what my future holds, but I know Who holds my future)
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Bush Administration= "Islam is peaceful", All talk no action!!!!!


11 posted on 10/25/2005 11:46:41 PM PDT by anti-infidel
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To: SandRat

If you haven't seen this yet, very interesting. What did France have to do with Niger yellowcake?

http://www.americanthinker.com/comments.php?comments_id=3479


12 posted on 10/25/2005 11:47:05 PM PDT by Just Lori (Tony Schaeffer, Curt Weldon, Able Danger....... PAY ATTENTION.)
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Domestic traitors are a far, far greater threat to this country than all the foreign terrorists ever spawned.

(Make a vow to insult or demoralize a liberal daily.)


13 posted on 10/26/2005 12:44:25 AM PDT by NaughtiusMaximus ("When it comes to a wife, give me a woman every time." - The Horse's Mouth)
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To: SandRat

4 years after 9-11 and who knows how many of our brave soldiers have died because of Syria and/or Iran's meddling in Iraq, yet still all we get from Bush is lip service.


14 posted on 10/26/2005 1:44:50 AM PDT by DTogo (I haven't left the GOP, the GOP left me.)
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BTTT


15 posted on 10/26/2005 3:01:22 AM PDT by E.G.C.
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To: SandRat

Give him the power of the War Powers Act of WWII. (It was removed at the end of WWII)


16 posted on 10/26/2005 5:19:38 AM PDT by RoadTest ((And call no man your father upon the earth: for one is your Father, which is in heaven. (Mat. 23:9))
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Chicken George won't carry out what he threatens. Iraq is becoming Vietnam with safe havens and resupply for the enemy in Syria and Iran, and the #1 funder and religious justifer of terrorism is Saudi Arabia. Want to bet the President will actually crack down on them?


17 posted on 10/26/2005 5:28:26 AM PDT by SeriousSassy (I know manure when I step in it!)
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To: bybybill

Dang it! That thought scared me so bad now I have to go and change my clothes.


18 posted on 10/26/2005 5:35:27 AM PDT by SandRat (Duty, Honor, Country. What else needs to be said?)
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The U.S. is determined to deny radical groups the support and sanctuary of outlaw regimes like Syria and Iran, President Bush said here today.

"Any government that chooses to be an ally of terror has chosen to be an enemy of civilization," Bush said. "The civilized world must hold those regimes to account."

hmmm. Is it me or is this getting VERY close to labeling domestic support groups as terrorists?

President Bush! BTTT!

19 posted on 10/26/2005 5:49:03 AM PDT by Calpernia (Breederville.com)
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Speaking to the Joint Armed Forces Officers' Wives Luncheon at Bolling Air Force Base, Bush said that these governments have a long history of collaboration with terrorists and deserve no patience from the victims of terror.

"Any government that chooses to be an ally of terror has chosen to be an enemy of civilization," Bush said. "The civilized world must hold those regimes to account."

20 posted on 10/26/2005 5:49:59 AM PDT by Calpernia (Breederville.com)
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