[ravingnutter]

Yeah, I've had my eye on Thielmann too, just can't figure out how he is involved. He was the first one to get a "report" (synopsis) of the forgeries from Jeff Castelli, the CIA Station Chief in Rome. What is throwing me off is that he ignored it, as he said it was not credible. If he was deeply involved, he would have passed it on, but then again, maybe it was a timing issue. He was apparently in a pissing contest with Bolton over how reports were passed up the chain of command. Bolton makes a statement that:

“I found that there was lots of stuff that I wasn’t getting and that the INR analysts weren’t including,” he told me. “I didn’t want it filtered.

Could that have been this report? If Thielmann would have passed it on, it could have prevented this whole fiasco.

[piasa]

I suspect Thielman was a clot in the flow of data...

Another thing that makes me wonder if he was a mole for someone in the press- or perhaps in the Senate intel committee- is that he was continually annoying Bolton by trying to insert himself into meetings where he wasn't wanted or needed. The Cuban spy Elena Belen Montes also had similar intrusive habits. She was destined to be planted on Tenet's staff until investigators decided to bring her in after 9/11. She was also noted for clotting up the flow of info to her superiors- she supressed any intel on Cuba that might lead to people assuming it was a greater threat, for example in biochem warfare reasearch.