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The Democrats' Vietnamization Strategy
TechCentralStation.com ^ | 11-22 | Gregory Scoblete

Posted on 11/22/2005 6:49:44 AM PST by EarthStomper

The Democrats lost the election of 2004 not because millions of bigoted red necks stormed the polls to protest gay marriage, as the self-serving liberal mythology would have it. The Democrats lost because on the crucial issue of national security, their party was tested and found wanting. In the wake of this defeat, a few voices in the wilderness, like The New Republic's Peter Beinart, argued for a realignment of the Democratic Party to reflect the country's more hawkish stance on national security. In charging the Bush administration with deceiving the United States into a war with Iraq, it would appear the Democrats have fixed on a more ambitious strategy: realigning the public to reflect Howard Dean's stance on national security.

Like a full moon, the "Bush lied" meme has waxed and waned since 2002: waxing with the ascendancy of Michael Moore, waning in the aftermath of Iraq's first successful election. This bad moon is rising again only this time it's the members of the Democrats' senior leadership that are doing the howling. Why, in November 2005, are congressional Democrats fixated on the debates of October 2002? The answers Democrats will offer are circumstantial: the pre-war debate is timely again because of the indictment of the vice president's chief of staff and complaints over the delay of "Phase II" of the Senate's report on pre-war intelligence.

However, there's something far more dishonest and irresponsible at work. Liberal Democrats want an expedited withdrawal of U.S. troops from Iraq, pegged to a clear timetable. It is what their vocal base, typified by the lionized war widow Cindy Sheehan, has been demanding since the war began. It is also what several anti-war Senators, like Russell Feingold and Ted Kennedy, have been advocating for months. Yet this position is not an easy sell, even to a public that now says the Iraq war was a mistake.

When asked in November by a Fox News/Opinion Dynamics poll whether U.S. troops should leave Iraq and come home now or "stay and finish the job," 55 percent of Americans said "stay."[1] That number has budged only slightly since August, when 58 percent agreed with "finishing the job."

A recent CNN/USA Today/Gallop poll also asked Americans about withdrawing from Iraq. Thirty eight percent said they favored "taking as long as needed to withdraw" (the closest position to the Bush administration) while 19 percent agreed with "withdraw now" and 33 percent agreed with a 12 month pull-out. In another crucial metric -- whether the U.S. can prevail in Iraq -- 46 percent of those polled said the U.S. would "definitely" or "probably" win while 33 percent said we could not. Interestingly, 17 percent said that the U.S. "can win, but won't" indicating that more people think the effort is salvageable than those who think failure a foregone conclusion.

So while American opinion has soured on the war, there is still uncertainty about the way forward. Further complicating the issue for liberal Democrats, an expedited withdrawal is also a tough sell among their own party's foreign policy elite. The Democrats' "strategic class" -- foreign policy leaders like Delaware Senator Joseph Biden and Connecticut Senator Joseph Lieberman, and former Clinton policy hands like Kenneth Pollack and UN Ambassador Richard Holbrooke -- have cautioned against a hasty withdrawal amid fixed timetables.

Turning this tide of public and party opinion toward the Dean wing, then, is a formidable task. Some Democrats, like the aforementioned Russell Feingold, have sought to sway the public with reasonable and straightforward arguments for why, in their view, an expedited withdrawal from Iraq pegged to clear timetables is the best course of action. Regardless of where you stand on the merits of that strategy, it is a strategy, and one well within the bounds of reasonable opposition.

But that's not what Senate minority leader Harry Reid is saying when he asserted on November 7 that "the American people have seen continued evidence that they were misled about the war in Iraq and that intelligence information was manipulated…." It's not what Carl Levin is arguing when he charged Bush with "deception." It's not what Howard Dean was doing when he told Tim Russert that "the truth is that the president misled America when he sent us to war."

Talk of "deliberate manipulations" and "distortions" and "lies" are not arguments about a viable alternative to Bush's Iraq strategy. They're sledgehammers directed at the war's very legitimacy. These Senators are attempting to advance their preferred policy not in a straight-up argument on the merits, but by casting the entire enterprise as illegitimate. If Senators Reid and Levin truly believe that Bush "cooked up a war in Texas" (as their reliably hyperbolic colleague from Massachusetts claimed) then they shouldn't be calling for "answers." They should be calling for impeachment.

There is no graver charge than accusing the president of sending the country into war and young men and women to their death over a lie. It is not an allegation to be flung about casually. That Democrats have aired it so promiscuously without following such allegations to their logical (read: impeachable) end proves they're not serious about the charge. They're merely using it as a proxy for undermining the public's support for the war so that their preferred strategy of an expedited withdrawal becomes more palatable. Call it the Democrat's "Vietnamization" strategy. Only after the public is disgusted with both the war and its architects can the Democrats peddle their unpopular alternative. This also exonerates the 29 Democrats who voted to authorize the use of force against Saddam: they weren't wrong, you see, they were hoodwinked by a "cabal" (a word, may I add, that has officially jumped the shark).

But the Vietnamizaton strategy is every bit as irresponsible as President Bush and Vice President Cheney have asserted. It's not irresponsible because it's being raised while troops are in the field. Pace Cheney, U.S. troops are tough enough to endure the slings and arrows of Harry Reid. It's irresponsible because it's not true. Bush's case for war against Iraq was not built on a towering mountain of deception. This is not to exonerate how Bush "sold the war." The administration did indeed gloss over the various dissents and caveats contained in the intelligence reports regarding Iraq's WMD. But it strains credulity to suggest, as the Democrats do, that these caveats and inter-agency doubts about select pieces of our intelligence would have tipped the scales of public opinion against war and punctured the group think surrounding Iraq's WMD arsenal.

Do Democrats really believe that these doubts and dissents were so powerful as to beat back the consensus view of two presidential administrations, the majority of Congress and the American people and the intelligence services of our major allies? No one can answer that, of course, but one can guess. Indeed, it beggars belief that in the context of the debate that occurred in October 2002 -- when those Senators like Carl Levin now pushing the "Bush lied" meme were adamant in their belief that Saddam possessed WMD -- that a full airing of the doubts and questions regarding U.S. intelligence estimates would have produced a different outcome. It's not simply because such doubts are attendant on nearly all intelligence, it's because Bush specifically argued that in a post 9/11 environment, the U.S. would no longer set the bar for action at complete, irrefutable certitude.

Remember preemption?

Indeed, Bush's case for forcefully removing Saddam centered not only on his reputed storehouse of WMD, but on America's reduced tolerance for pernicious security threats emanating from the Middle East. In multiple speeches leading up to the war, the President and members of his administration sketched out a doctrine whereby the U.S. would be compelled to act to remove a threat even if the intelligence was not dispositive.[2] We would never have complete certainty about the exact designs of Saddam Hussein, the Bush administration said, but given the long history of belligerency, WMD development and use, and support for terrorism, Saddam was longer afforded the benefit of the doubt in a post 9/11 world.

Many Democrats disagreed with that doctrine then, and a great deal more do now (and some Republicans, too). They are entitled to recant. They are entitled -- obligated even -- to present an alternative to Bush's Iraq strategy. But they are not entitled to dishonestly subvert the war's legitimacy to achieve their ends.

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[1] All polling data in this article can be found [at a link in the original].

[2] Representative speeches are as follows. The president's June 2002 speech to West Point. The president's October 7th speech in Cincinnati. The president's remarks in Louisiana in December 2002. The president's State of the Union address in January 2003.


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1 posted on 11/22/2005 6:49:45 AM PST by EarthStomper
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To: EarthStomper

So true. The Rats lost because the majority of Americans do not yet view themselves as poor victims of forces they do not understand or cannot cope with. The majority of Americans are strong, responsible people of sound character who can run a business, serve with honor, relate to God and still know the difference between right and wrong, unlike those who "live easily with contradictions" as the Rats like describe themselves. Sophisticates are dangerous!


2 posted on 11/22/2005 6:54:37 AM PST by yldstrk (My heros have always been cowboys-Reagan and Bush)
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To: EarthStomper

We go to get the job done in Iraq before the rats can undermine the effort.


3 posted on 11/22/2005 7:04:58 AM PST by Ninian Dryhope
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To: EarthStomper

Emotion-based anti-war Dumbocraps and other assorted moonbats are traitors who want to see America and Iraq fail. To them, a successful coversion under the Bush administration's leadership of Iraq to a functional republic is the ultimate failure.

There are legitimate beefs against the war, and those Democrats who offer true alternatives and true logic aren't these traitors to which I'm referring. Rather, I'm referring to the "Bush lied" crowd and all their spin about how the war is such a failure, our troops are the Huns, etc. -- they are traitors, because they want to see America fail above and beyond all else. That group includes Dean, Pelosi, Swimmer Kennedy, et al.

Those who cheer our enemies and blatantly support the defeat of America, all for personal political gain, don't deserve to be citizens of this country, let alone "leaders" in it.

PS McCain, who is all for tying the hands of the troops the same way our government tied his in Viet Nam (can you say "irony" anyone"), is another problem entirely. It's beyond doubt that he wants America to win, he's just too blinded (and understandably so) by his own experiences to see that sometimes in war, even the good guys have to do what in any other context would be bad things.


4 posted on 11/22/2005 7:05:48 AM PST by piytar
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To: EarthStomper

bump


5 posted on 11/22/2005 7:25:12 AM PST by God luvs America (When the silent majority speaks the earth trembles!)
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To: EarthStomper

All patriotic Americans should express their righteous anger at the Democrats on Capitol Hill and their leftist anti-war allies for their concerted efforts to undermine the morale of our brave troops fighting and dying in Afghanistan and Iraq.

I remember "Uncle Ho" [Walter] Cronkite on the CBS evening news telling us after Tet 1968 that the Vietnam was was un-willable. I served in Vietnam from March, 1969 until March, 1970, and I can truthfully tell you that the area around Saigon and south to the Mekong Delta was pretty well pacified during that time which enabled President Nixon to withdraw whole U. S. Army divisions and turn over their combat mission to the Vietnamese Army.

During that time I remember Sen. Ted Kennedy's rants in 1969 about how the Vietnam war was unwinnable. He hasn't changed a bit - it's always about defeating America on the battlefield.

When the troops listen to all of this defeatist retoric from their elected officials on Capitol Hill, morale starts to sink.

If Sen. John Kerry starts his mantra of "Don't be the last GI to die for a mistake in Iraq" like he did in Vietnam, he should be impeached and prosecuted for treason.

Make no doubt about it: only the dead have seen the end of war. The present war against Islamic fascism is one that we must win at all costs, otherwise, Western civilization will be destroyed.


6 posted on 11/22/2005 7:43:43 AM PST by mohresearcher
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To: God luvs America

The idea that war strategy should be debated and set by public debate in Congress is absurd on its face. Generals have to make those secret plans in order to surprise the enemy.


7 posted on 11/22/2005 7:46:49 AM PST by ClaireSolt (.)
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To: EarthStomper

For a long time now, I've found it interesting and ironic that the Dems first compared Iraq to Vietnam, calling it a quagmire, etc., before there were any similarities at all. Then, maybe realizing there were none, they set about to create one; that is, the undercutting of public opinion by anti-war partisans, despite success on the battle front.


8 posted on 11/22/2005 8:02:49 AM PST by Emile
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To: EarthStomper

First post, ya'll be easy on me. Seems to me Libs regard Vietnam as a great victory rather than a defeat. Our loss validated everything they stood for then and now. They smell blood in the water again.


9 posted on 11/22/2005 8:10:30 AM PST by welfareisslavery
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To: yldstrk

It's just to bad that a few of our Democratic friends can't walk through Hiroshima as I did in late 1945. This could be us if we ignore dictators and tyrants that would attack us. There is no Plan B. The threat of a preemptive strike is a necessary weapon in this age of WMD.


10 posted on 11/22/2005 9:19:46 AM PST by ANGGAPO (LayteGulfBeachClub.)
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To: EarthStomper
And the Left and the MSM, hope for the same result. The vision of Americans and their Iraqi allies jostling on the roof of the American Embassy in Baghdad trying to catch the last chopper out of Iraq.
11 posted on 11/22/2005 9:52:49 AM PST by Mike Darancette (Mesocons for Rice '08)
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To: EarthStomper

The Democrats, as currently composed, equal Defeat.


12 posted on 11/22/2005 10:02:45 AM PST by sr4402
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To: welfareisslavery
To extend your metaphor, they not only smell blood in the water, they are throwing out chum as fast as they can. Did you read this one?

Sums up the engineered loss of Vietnam very well - http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/1544120/posts

13 posted on 01/03/2006 7:16:58 PM PST by SuzyQue
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