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To: sergey1973
Can't the smokers have some bars?

Hear hear, the only arguement he did not take on is the public health aspect. If we are all going to be part of a socialized medicine, then we should get used to the idea of the government telling us what we are going to permit. The solution is to have private health insurance give discounts for non-smokers. (Never mind that sometimes a non smoker passes a smoker and is exposed to smoke. Same for burning leaves in Oct.)

Since insurance companies already do have non-smoking discounts then back off on the smoking issue, please. (Occasional pipe smoker -- outdoors, who likes smoky bars and good CW music.)

4 posted on 11/30/2005 7:58:00 AM PST by KC_for_Freedom (Sailing the highways of America, and loving it.)
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To: KC_for_Freedom

I am concerned that the relationship of citizen to government changes. Instead of representing us, government increasingly claims expertise to tell us what to do, instead. I want to start by banning government advertising, especially Hillary saying, "Does anyone know what a veteran is?"


5 posted on 11/30/2005 8:10:35 AM PST by ClaireSolt (.)
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To: KC_for_Freedom
I have been a multiple lines insurance agent for over 36 years. I cannot think of one life and health insurance company that doesn't give a "large discount" to nonsmokers. We now have good statistics, and know for a fact smoking is suicide on the installment plan. We also know for a fact that second hand smoke is very dangerous. I realize smokers see their liberty being infringed on by nonsmokers. Smokers have a right to smoke in their homes, cars, outdoors, etc., but they do not have a right to smoke where the public will encounter second hand smoke.
9 posted on 11/30/2005 9:17:48 AM PST by GarySpFc (De Oppresso Liber)
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