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Projects: Solar Sailing Update: Getting Started
The Planetary Society ^ | 12/02/05 | Louis Friedman

Posted on 12/03/2005 2:20:44 PM PST by KevinDavis

The Planetary Society solar sail team is working to try again to fly the world’s first solar sail spacecraft. With a tested spacecraft design, almost all flight components available, and at least two attractive launch vehicle possibilities, we are well positioned to reach our goal.

We’ve made considerable progress: Our Lavochkin/Space Research Institute team in Russia has identified two promising and affordable launch vehicles candidates for our spacecraft.

The Soyuz rocket with a Fregat upper stage successfully launched the European Space Agency’s Mars Express and Venus Express, among other missions. Soyuz is the reliable workhorse of Russian rockets and, with the Space Shuttle grounded, it is the only vehicle now taking astronauts to the International Space Station. It would carry our solar sail as secondary payload, piggybacking on a commercial launch.

(Excerpt) Read more at planetary.org ...


TOPICS: Miscellaneous; News/Current Events
KEYWORDS: solarsail; space
Note to the Planetary Society... Don't have Russia launch your ship!!!!!
1 posted on 12/03/2005 2:20:44 PM PST by KevinDavis
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2 posted on 12/03/2005 2:21:25 PM PST by KevinDavis (http://www.cafepress.com/spacefuture)
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To: KevinDavis

This has come up from time to time. I have asked the same question and have not had an answer. I can understand the part about "sailing" away from the sun. However, how do you get back?


3 posted on 12/03/2005 2:25:30 PM PST by jim_trent
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To: jim_trent

Solar gravitational pull. Dive into the sun!


4 posted on 12/03/2005 2:32:42 PM PST by Puzzler
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To: jim_trent
I found this on the site.

10. Can a solar sail only provide thrust away from the Sun?
No, thrust can be generated inward or outward with respect to the sun. By turning the sail at different angles, we can add or subtract velocity to the spacecraft. When we add velocity, the sail flies away from the Sun. When we subtract velocity, its orbit spirals inward.
Basically, everything in the solar system is moving on its own momentum in a circumferential path around the sun. Angle the sails to take away some of that sideways momentum, and the sun's gravity will start to pull you in.
5 posted on 12/03/2005 2:37:30 PM PST by inquest (If you favor any legal status for illegal aliens, then do not claim to be in favor of secure borders)
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To: KevinDavis

Russians have so far lost them two ships, but on their budget the Russians are probably all they can afford. The Russians aren't perfect, but they have gotten a lot up into orbit over the years and will likely succeed in time. At least along the way we've disposed of a couple old sub lunched ICBMs that they aren't pointed at us any longer and kept some of their scientists busy and off the terror WMD launching market. All for much less money than we waste on the average Democratic politician.


6 posted on 12/03/2005 3:25:22 PM PST by JohnBovenmyer
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To: KevinDavis
Note to the Planetary Society... Don't have Russia launch your ship!!!!!

My thoughts exactly. Remember the last solar sail experiment that was launched on a refurbished Russian SLBM? And it ended up in Davey Jones' Locker?

7 posted on 12/03/2005 3:29:50 PM PST by FierceDraka ("Out here, due process is a bullet." - John Wayne, "The Green Berets")
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To: inquest
By turning the sail at different angles, we can add or subtract velocity to the spacecraft.

Can the delta vee actually be directed? How much of the beam is reflected specularly?

8 posted on 12/03/2005 3:34:59 PM PST by RightWhale (Not transferable -- Good only for this trip)
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To: RightWhale
How much of the beam is reflected specularly?

Well the sail's made out of Mylar, which I guess has pretty good specular qualities.


9 posted on 12/03/2005 3:49:06 PM PST by inquest (If you favor any legal status for illegal aliens, then do not claim to be in favor of secure borders)
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To: inquest

Enough to overcome losses so that the resultant vector will point inward, toward the sun, or only enough to reduce the efficiency and slow the inevitable outward spiral a few percent?


10 posted on 12/03/2005 4:01:59 PM PST by RightWhale (Not transferable -- Good only for this trip)
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To: KevinDavis
Thanks for the ping. Solar sails are one of my favorite space projects. Here's hoping the next launch doesn't go like the last one did.
11 posted on 12/03/2005 4:37:46 PM PST by Termite_Commander (Warning: Cynical Right-winger Ahead)
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To: RightWhale
The vector itself doesn't have to point inward. It's enough that it point in the (more-or-less) opposite direction of circumferential motion. As that motion is reduced, the sun's gravity will take over from there.
12 posted on 12/03/2005 4:39:01 PM PST by inquest (If you favor any legal status for illegal aliens, then do not claim to be in favor of secure borders)
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Let me see if I have this straight. The solar sail spaceship is on a course away from the sun, being pushed by photons striking the sail. Of course, we know that it is not really going in a straight line away from the sun. It is really in a highly elliptical orbit around the sun. So we can lose the sail (furl) at any time and wait until the sun pulls it back along its highly elliptical orbit. Of course, that could take centuries. The idea seems to need some work.


13 posted on 12/04/2005 10:25:36 AM PST by jim_trent
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To: jim_trent
It is really in a highly elliptical orbit around the sun.

Presumably until it reaches its target planet.

So we can lose the sail (furl) at any time and wait until the sun pulls it back along its highly elliptical orbit.

No, they don't furl the sail. Instead, they angle them off in a different direction. The light is going to push in a (more-or-less) perpendicular direction to the orientation of the sail. So the idea is to angle the sail so that the force of the light works mostly against the direction in which the craft is moving around the sun. This will allow the sun's gravity to work more effectively in pulling it back in.

14 posted on 12/04/2005 11:46:02 AM PST by inquest (If you favor any legal status for illegal aliens, then do not claim to be in favor of secure borders)
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