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Illegal immigration big issue in Calif. election
yahoo news ^ | 12-3-05

Posted on 12/03/2005 9:25:49 PM PST by LouAvul

LOS ANGELES (Reuters) - A California congressional election featuring the dark-horse candidacy of border-control activist Jim Gilchrist has thrust the issue of illegal immigration to the political forefront.

Gilchrist became a lightning rod in the immigration debate by founding the local Minutemen volunteer border patrol and is a long-shot candidate in Tuesday's special election in one of California's most solidly Republican districts.

But political analysts say his presence on the ballot forced Republican Party favorite John Campbell and others to take a hard line on immigration -- or risk alienating voters frustrated over the issue.

Gilchrist, running as an American Independent Party candidate, drew 14 percent of the vote in the October 5 primary.

"Some of Gilchrist's vote was a protest vote. Voters sent a message that immigration was an important issue for them and they anticipate that the Republican Party will pay attention to it in the future," said Luis DeSipio, a political science professor at University of California, Irvine.

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TOPICS: Politics/Elections
KEYWORDS: 48thcongressional; aliens; border; california; campbell; campbell4illegals; gilchrist; immigrantlist; minuteman; minutemen; openbordergop
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I refuse to vote in another election until a candidate vows to close the borders, deport all illegals, and fine companies who employ such. Until then it's just more of the same.
1 posted on 12/03/2005 9:25:51 PM PST by LouAvul
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To: LouAvul
It's interesting that this election has been the most downplayed election to date in the Los Angeles area. It was only today that the wife and I heard an advertisement on the radio encouraging people to vote this Tuesday.
2 posted on 12/03/2005 9:30:49 PM PST by Prime Choice (Mechanical Engineers build weapons. Civil Engineers build targets.)
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To: LouAvul
I refuse to vote in another election until a candidate vows to close the borders, deport all illegals, and fine companies who employ such. Until then it's just more of the same.


3 posted on 12/03/2005 9:32:09 PM PST by Paleo Conservative (Hey hey ho ho Andy Heyward's got to go!)
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To: LouAvul

This will be an interesting election. The primary was skewed because a lot of Young's voters were celebrating the jewish holiday.

Kerry got 41 percent in this district. With a low turnout and Gilchrist and Campbell splitting the vote this election will be a lot closer than people think.

I'd rate Gilchrist an A+ on the border, Cambell a B and Young an F.


4 posted on 12/03/2005 9:33:31 PM PST by johnmecainrino
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To: LouAvul

Don't even need to deport them manually. If you fine and prosecute employers who employee them then they will self dport. Th ecompanies who employ them will just fire them all and refuse to hire any, and as such they will stop coming across the border if there are no jobs availible. Although for this to work you have to not allow them to recieve any social services, this includes education.


5 posted on 12/03/2005 9:33:57 PM PST by SDGOP
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To: Prime Choice

KKLA ran a long interview with Gilcrest today....not sure if it was a paid infomercial or not.


6 posted on 12/03/2005 9:36:07 PM PST by BurbankKarl (NRA EPL)
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To: LouAvul
"His presence on the ballot forced Republican Party favorite John Campbell and others to take a hard line on immigration"

That is the problem isn't it. Our 'Leaders' sit secure in the fact that we don't have a choice and only do what is the right thing when they re FORCED to do so by us being given an alternative to the Duopoly of Rino's and Dems.

Just wish it as possible to field a complete slate of new candidates and throw all of these bums out.

7 posted on 12/03/2005 9:36:18 PM PST by TCats
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To: LouAvul
John Campbell will win because he's another open-border type "talking tough" running as the Republican, exactly what the national party and Bush want.

Campbell voted to grant in-state tuition benefits to illegal alien children and for acceptance of Mexico's easily obtainable matricula consular cards as valid identification.

Jim Gilchrist will lose mostly because he's running as an independent, not because of his stand on illegal immigration.

8 posted on 12/03/2005 9:41:19 PM PST by newzjunkey (Why we fight for a free Iraq: http://massgraves.info/ -- Don't spare Tookie, Arnold!)
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To: johnmecainrino
I'm not sure Campbell rates a B on immigration. See my post at 8
9 posted on 12/03/2005 9:42:52 PM PST by newzjunkey (Why we fight for a free Iraq: http://massgraves.info/ -- Don't spare Tookie, Arnold!)
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I listened to John Campbell on Michael Medved and it kind of made me sick that Medved would cover for him. Campbell said he wasn't for open borders, and that he mistakenly voted for those other things because it was his first vote in CA and he made a mistake or something.

More fraud on Republicans committed by the CAGOP and RINO-STREAM MEDIA


10 posted on 12/03/2005 9:44:25 PM PST by BurbankKarl (NRA EPL)
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To: johnmecainrino; LouAvul
Hopped on OC Register web site this evening. There was this strange pop-up of an animated Young campaign ad with audio, and another Young ad in the print version spouting the vigilante slime line on Gilchrist.

Agreed. It will be interesting all around.

11 posted on 12/03/2005 10:11:33 PM PST by LNewman
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To: newzjunkey
John Campbell will win because he's another open-border type "talking tough" running as the Republican, exactly what the national party and Bush want. Campbell voted to grant in-state tuition benefits to illegal alien children and for acceptance of Mexico's easily obtainable matricula consular cards as valid identification. Jim Gilchrist will lose mostly because he's running as an independent, not because of his stand on illegal immigration.

You may be correct but a 3rd party candidate has forced this "Two-Party Cartel" to answer the call to the independent thinkers. Nationally I guarantee that if you all would vote outside of this cartel we could force these bought & paid for congresscritters to decide whether to suck up to the elites or get voted out by the electorate. Please all of you vote for the most conservative candidate in your next election & tell the GOP why you did such.

12 posted on 12/03/2005 10:11:37 PM PST by Digger (Outsource CONgress)
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To: Digger

What is most interesting is that everyone that I have talked with in this district are voting for Gilchrist. Not scientific but it sure has made the pubbie do a 180. I luv it.


13 posted on 12/03/2005 10:23:31 PM PST by Digger (Outsource CONgress)
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To: LouAvul

Wow, what a treat to actually be able to register a vote on illegal immigration. For some reason, the Dems and Republicans always seem to arrange it so that there is no choice.


14 posted on 12/03/2005 10:27:41 PM PST by Plutarch
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To: Prime Choice
Check out the happenings in the/a neighboring district. Yesterday's Daily Pilot titled Community responds to divisive idea. Also check out responding "readers" in the Opinion section.

The mayor, Allan Mansoor, has proposed that Costa Mesa police be trained by U.S. Immigration and Customs Enforcement to uphold immigration laws while carrying out their regular duties. This is being presented at next week's City Council Meeting.

You can also view next Tuesday's Costa Mesa City Council meeting live via streaming video from CMTV24. The above issue is the first item under New Business on the agenda. Still, this issue most likely won't air till 9:30-10 or beyond.

The agenda is available in pdf format here. I expect "Hispanic" media to be out in force shoving cameras in attendees faces as they were for meetings discussing the closure of the city-sponsored Day Labor Center several months back.

Puts an interesting light on December's election in that I'm not so sure turnout will be as low as suggested.

15 posted on 12/03/2005 10:35:56 PM PST by LNewman
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To: Digger

Count me in!


16 posted on 12/03/2005 10:54:16 PM PST by Brad’s Gramma (Jesus is the Reason for the Season!!!)
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To: LouAvul; All
For "Thunder on the Border," click the picture:


17 posted on 12/04/2005 1:41:49 AM PST by backhoe (The Silence of the Tom's ( Tired Old Media... ))
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To: 1_Inch_Group; 2sheep; 2Trievers; 3AngelaD; 4Freedom; 4ourprogeny; 7.62 x 51mm; A CA Guy; ...

ping


18 posted on 12/04/2005 8:37:05 AM PST by gubamyster
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To: newzjunkey
Jim Gilchrist will lose mostly because he's running as an independent, not because of his stand on illegal immigration.

But that is not what they will tell us after the election. They will say that the illegal immigration issue does not resonate with the voters and that Republicans who run on a tough immigration stance will lose. It will be exactly the same spin they put on the Virginia Governor's race.

19 posted on 12/04/2005 8:41:01 AM PST by jackbenimble (Import the third world, become the third world)
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To: gubamyster

Protect our borders and coastlines from all foreign invaders!

Support our Minutemen Patriots!

Be Ever Vigilant ~ Bump!


20 posted on 12/04/2005 3:26:37 PM PST by blackie (Be Well~Be Armed~Be Safe~Molon Labe!)
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