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2nd American Legion Post Closes Doors To Minutemen
CBS2 Chicago ^ | 12/24/2005

Posted on 12/04/2005 7:08:49 AM PST by KeyLargo

2nd American Legion Post Closes Doors To Minutemen

(AP) YORKVILLE, IL The American Legion post in Yorkville has decided it will no longer allow its space to be used by a controversialgroup dedicated to enforcing immigration laws.

The Illinois chapter of the Minutemen, which wants to curtail illegal immigration into the United States, planned to hold its third Fox Valley area organizational meeting Wednesday at the Yorkville American Legion.

But following the controversies that have surrounded previous meetings of the group, Yorkville Legion Post Commander Gary Bullock has decided to deny them the use of his hall.

This decision came mere days after the Oswego American Legion refused a similar request from the group.


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KEYWORDS: americanlegion; minutemen
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I am an American Legion member but now I am considering not renewing my membership. I don't belong to the VFW because the leaders of the organization have become too political.
1 posted on 12/04/2005 7:08:50 AM PST by KeyLargo
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To: KeyLargo

Have they lost their mind? Is Murtha a member?


2 posted on 12/04/2005 7:12:08 AM PST by AliVeritas (''I'd rather have Jihadis in front of me than Democrats behind me.'' Go GOP!)
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To: KeyLargo
But following the controversies that have surrounded previous meetings of the group

The only controversy Ive seen is vandalism of posts at the hands of the OBL following the meetings.
3 posted on 12/04/2005 7:13:11 AM PST by cripplecreek (Never a minigun handy when you need one.)
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To: KeyLargo
Where ever they meet, they are going to bring a group of aggressive protesters. I can understand the VFW wanting to avoid that. Give them time, and after they see that their causes are the same they might come around. JMO but I think it would be better so say "ok, I understand but would yall at least come to where ever we meet and hear what we have to say?" instead.
4 posted on 12/04/2005 7:14:33 AM PST by CindyDawg
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To: CindyDawg

American Legion


5 posted on 12/04/2005 7:16:09 AM PST by CindyDawg
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To: KeyLargo
"Gary Bullock has decided to deny them the use of his hall." there is a familiar smell to this.
6 posted on 12/04/2005 7:18:03 AM PST by lrb111 (Minutemen - Doing jobs the White House won't do.)
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To: CindyDawg
Where ever they meet, they are going to bring a group of aggressive protesters. I can understand the VFW wanting to avoid that

Funny, I thought that being a veteran meant actually standing up for America. Or does it mean only defending your country when you are serving in the military? This appears an act of cowardice; not something I would expect from a group of honored veterans.

7 posted on 12/04/2005 7:20:01 AM PST by Hodar (With Rights, come Responsibilities. Don't assume one, without assuming the other.)
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To: KeyLargo
The American Legion Post 489
Yorkville
9054 Veterans Pkwy. Rr 34
P.o. Box 79
Yorkville, IL 60560

The American Legion Post 675
Oswego
19 W. Washington St.
Oswego, IL 60543
Phone: 708-554-8751

DEPARTMENT OF ILLINOIS

EUGENE THOMPSON, COMMANDER

TERRY L WOODBURN, ADJUTANT
PO BOX 2910
BLOOMINGTON, IL 61702
PHONE: 309-663-0361
FAX: 309-663-5783
EMAIL: hdqs@illegion.org
WEB: http://www.illegion.org

8 posted on 12/04/2005 7:21:06 AM PST by Marine Inspector (Government is not the solution to our problem; Government is the problem)
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I am an American Legion member but now I am considering not renewing my membership

I'm the Adjutant of our Post and I find this disturbing too. But I won't consider revoking my membership. This is a decision made by a local Post Commander, not a decision made by Legion National. Unless of course you are a member of the Yorkville Post - then I could understand your hesitation.

9 posted on 12/04/2005 7:25:21 AM PST by Mopp4
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To: Hodar
Do the veterans know what the Minutemen are standing up for? That was my point. All they are getting is the media slant. Our president was even skeptical. The Minutemen are growing and I think it's because people are seeing by their example. Just seemed logical that it would be beneficial to win them over instead of getting all mad and alienating them.
10 posted on 12/04/2005 7:25:54 AM PST by CindyDawg
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To: KeyLargo; All

The minutement on NOT controversial. This is a compound question reporting of including an assumption with a fact along the lines of "how often do you beat you wife."

The CBS PROPAGANDA reporters are inserting THEIR OPINIONS with this story. This should be under editorial NOT news if they are going to be THIS OUTRIGHT AND BLATENT.

Legionares should write to the president of the Legion because he is in a big effort to "reclaim" members who let their membership lapse. Does anyone have the email address?


11 posted on 12/04/2005 7:29:22 AM PST by longtermmemmory (VOTE!)
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Do the veterans know what the Minutemen are standing up for?

Yes, I would say that unless the vets have been living under a rock; and allowing the public to use their meeting house without any sort of background check; how could the vets plead ignorance. Down here in Texas; from the media reports I have read (I can not speak for all media reports, nor all of Texas) the media has stated that the Minutemen are a group of people with the intention of enforcing immigration laws. They patrol PRIVATE property (Media is NOT welcome), and report suspicious activity to law enforcement officials. The minutemen have an 'observe only' policy; and do NOT engage the suspects in any manner, way, shape or form. To do so is to be ejected from the group; and face possible legal actions from the various hispanic communities.

I have friends and family proudly serving, or retired from the military. To see a group of veterans turn their back on a group bent on upholding and defending the laws of this country strikes me as an insult to all who serve, or have served.

12 posted on 12/04/2005 7:33:52 AM PST by Hodar (With Rights, come Responsibilities. Don't assume one, without assuming the other.)
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Where ever they meet, they are going to bring a group of aggressive protesters. I can understand the VFW wanting to avoid that.

The protestors would probably want to do some anti-war stuff too. That would bring more unwanted attention and would be a disgrace to those veterans who have fought so hard for us.

13 posted on 12/04/2005 7:37:34 AM PST by moog
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To: KeyLargo

no good deed goes unpunished.


14 posted on 12/04/2005 7:37:58 AM PST by GregoTX (The only thing necessary for the triumph of evil is for good men to do nothing.)
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To: Mopp4
This is a decision made by a local Post Commander, not a decision made by Legion National.

Too often we assume that when one entity does something, that it applies to everyone. The liberals have made an art form of it, but sometimes it applies to a lot of us.

Thank goodness the VFW here doesn't face any controversy. We are honored to have them here. If they did get expelled somehow from the community center or something else, I would definitely be there supporting the VFW.

15 posted on 12/04/2005 7:42:35 AM PST by moog
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To: Hodar

It has to be a few OLD TIME democrat party hacks who still think the looney left/homosexual mandating/quotoa queen/michae moore nut modern democrat party still has political power.

The ONLY reason for this is political hacksterism, this is the same BS tactics the left uses against the boyscouts.


16 posted on 12/04/2005 7:42:38 AM PST by longtermmemmory (VOTE!)
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To: Hodar
Yes, I would say that unless the vets have been living under a rock; and allowing the public to use their meeting house without any sort of background check; how could the vets plead ignorance. Down here in Texas; from the media reports I have read (I can not speak for all media reports, nor all of Texas) the media has stated that the Minutemen are a group of people with the intention of enforcing immigration laws. They patrol PRIVATE property (Media is NOT welcome), and report suspicious activity to law enforcement officials. The minutemen have an 'observe only' policy; and do NOT engage the suspects in any manner, way, shape or form. To do so is to be ejected from the group; and face possible legal actions from the various hispanic communities. I have friends and family proudly serving, or retired from the military. To see a group of veterans turn their back on a group bent on upholding and defending the laws of this country strikes me as an insult to all who serve, or have served.

You are right on about the Minutemen and it was well put. I think the VFW wants to avoid needless publicity and controversy that would inevitably follow. Pretty soon you would have the *(&*(&*()&(*& anti-war protestors coming around. I do think it's unfortunate too that it came to that and that there could have been another solution.

17 posted on 12/04/2005 7:45:20 AM PST by moog
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To: Hodar

Yeah, every pony has it's price.


18 posted on 12/04/2005 7:46:26 AM PST by Eighth Square
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To: longtermmemmory
The ONLY reason for this is political hacksterism, this is the same BS tactics the left uses against the boyscouts.

Still, one would expect THIS group to be beyond petty political posturing. Unless I am grossly mistaken, isn't there an oath taken by EVERY vet that has ever served regarding protecting America from foes both 'foreign and domestic'. If these vets can turn their backs against a group protecting America, then the vets have abandoned everything they stood for.

19 posted on 12/04/2005 7:48:30 AM PST by Hodar (With Rights, come Responsibilities. Don't assume one, without assuming the other.)
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To: longtermmemmory
It has to be a few OLD TIME democrat party hacks who still think the looney left/homosexual mandating/quotoa queen/michae moore nut modern democrat party still has political power.

The ONLY reason for this is political hacksterism, this is the same BS tactics the left uses against the boyscouts.

Actually, it's probably NEW dems who think they have power. Some of the older type at least have a few cajones.

The Boy Scouts stuff is the biggest issue can raise my dander. I wrote a LONG letter to one of the organizations trying to put gays into the Boy Scouts saying their purposes would be better served keeping out molestors and such. I didn't get a reply back.

20 posted on 12/04/2005 7:50:16 AM PST by moog
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