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Fix immigration on outside, inside
The Atlanta Journal-Constitution ^ | December 4, 2005 | Tom Tancredo

Posted on 12/04/2005 8:30:19 AM PST by arnoldpalmerfan

We all watched President Bush's speech in Tucson last Monday with high hopes. Much of his rhetoric was on target. But when he says border security must go hand in hand with comprehensive immigration reform, he has it exactly backward. His proposal includes an amnesty for the 10 million to 15 million illegal aliens already in our country, and that step will render any new border security effort useless and laughable.

In 1986, Congress passed a general amnesty for more than 2 million illegal aliens on the promise that border security would be achieved and laws against employment of illegal workers would be enforced. Neither of those promises was kept, and the Congress will not be tricked a second time.

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TOPICS: Business/Economy; Crime/Corruption; Culture/Society; Editorial; Foreign Affairs; Government; Mexico; News/Current Events; Politics/Elections; US: Colorado
KEYWORDS: 109th; aliens; amnesty; bordersecurity; cz; illegalaliens; immigrantlist; immigrationreform; presidentbush; temporaryworker; tomtancredo; visa
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A great opinion piece by Cong. Tancredo
1 posted on 12/04/2005 8:30:20 AM PST by arnoldpalmerfan
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To: arnoldpalmerfan

We did not expect anything else from Bush on ILLEGAL immigration. He supports it, as do his contributing benefactors at election time. But so does the rest of Washington that does not want to get its hands dirty with cleaning out the USA of ILLEGALS. Our 'government' has no remorse when it comes to burdening the U.S. citizens with the huge cost of supporting ILLEGALS and the impact to our soverignty, our security, the significance of our system of laws, the Constitutional oath of the Presidency, and all else that is being horribly compromised.

Tancredo is right. We just got lip service about what we already know.


2 posted on 12/04/2005 8:37:48 AM PST by EagleUSA
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To: arnoldpalmerfan
Thanks for posting this. Tancredo offers some common sense on the illegal immigration mess, something sorely missing in D.C.

America is fed up with the pandering to Mexico by both parties, and by offering what amounts to amnesty for millions of lawbreakers, Bush loses what little credibility he might have had on the subject.

3 posted on 12/04/2005 8:42:08 AM PST by janetgreen
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To: arnoldpalmerfan

I was able to get your AJC link on my first try. The second time it said "Please tell us a little bit about yourself".


4 posted on 12/04/2005 8:46:07 AM PST by FreeReign
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To: EagleUSA

Often we hear that 'we will never get all illegals to leave voluntarily' as if it is a reason to not try. Let's try for 90%... let's try for 50%, 50% is a good number...let's atleast try for 'some.'...


5 posted on 12/04/2005 8:49:22 AM PST by DancesWithBolsheviks (No controlling legal authority.)
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To: arnoldpalmerfan

Fine employers $50,000 for every illegal immigrant that they are caught employing (knowingly or unknowingly), and let the free enterprise system manage the problem. Private business would develop the immigration status verification system in a few weeks that the federal government hasn't managed to do in 20 years.

Then cut off all government benefits to all illegals.

If there aren't any $$$ to be had from crossing the border (in the form of jobs of government handouts), the flow of illegals would slow to a trickle.


6 posted on 12/04/2005 8:55:52 AM PST by nj26
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To: EagleUSA
... ILLEGAL immigration. He supports it, as do his contributing benefactors at election time

Since Bush is not likely to run again, there must be some other reason than campaign contributions.

7 posted on 12/04/2005 8:57:58 AM PST by Poincare
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To: nj26
Fine employers $50,000 for every illegal immigrant that they are caught employing (knowingly or unknowingly)...

What should be the procedure for checking employers?

8 posted on 12/04/2005 8:59:19 AM PST by FreeReign
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To: arnoldpalmerfan

"It is time to build a genuine fence along our borders with Canada and Mexico as part of a comprehensive system of border security. It is ludicrous to suggest we cannot interdict people who do not respect our borders, whether they are smuggling drugs or people or weapons to do us
harm."

I say build the fences...then argue about WHO should go
and stay. There are those who would LEAVE our
country before that last chink in the wall were
completed. As for passing legislation re immigrants,
Congress votes on that periodically, and Tancredo
has voted for these, too!

http://www.numbersusa.com/interests/amnesty_print.html


9 posted on 12/04/2005 9:01:16 AM PST by Grendel9 (uick)
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To: arnoldpalmerfan


10 posted on 12/04/2005 9:02:05 AM PST by Travis McGee
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To: FreeReign

Well obviously my suggestion would require the federal government to actually DO SOMETHING and AUDIT EMPLOYERS. Get a list of employees and check them against the central database of citizens.

It's funny how the IRS unmasks complicated tax shelters and audits millions of waitresses to find underreported tip money, but the government can barely bother to step inside a poultry plant to audit the employment rolls.


11 posted on 12/04/2005 9:04:23 AM PST by nj26
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To: Poincare

Since Bush is not likely to run again, there must be some other reason than campaign contributions.
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Certainly, markers being called in -- but we should factor in the Bush Dynasty and its International agenda, as disclosed by Bush Sr. during his White House days. GWB's agenda all along, has been to SUPPORT MEXICO and the Fox government (if you can call it that) and that is PRECISELY what he is doing.


12 posted on 12/04/2005 9:08:24 AM PST by EagleUSA
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13 posted on 12/04/2005 9:13:23 AM PST by gubamyster
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To: nj26
What should be the procedure for checking employers?

Well obviously my suggestion would require the federal government to actually DO SOMETHING and AUDIT EMPLOYERS. Get a list of employees and check them against the central database of citizens.

What?

The federal government doesn't audit employers? The federal government when it audits employers doesn't ask for a list of people employed?

14 posted on 12/04/2005 9:19:44 AM PST by FreeReign
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To: arnoldpalmerfan
We all watched President Bush's speech in Tucson last Monday with high hopes.

If someone had "high hopes" then that someone was high.

Much of his rhetoric was on target political balderdash.

15 posted on 12/04/2005 9:21:34 AM PST by DumpsterDiver
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To: EagleUSA
Certainly, markers being called in -- but we should factor in the Bush Dynasty and its International agenda, as disclosed by Bush Sr. during his White House days. GWB's agenda all along, has been to SUPPORT MEXICO and the Fox government (if you can call it that) and that is PRECISELY what he is doing.


Vincente Fox (left) and Geo... Oops.

Hold on.

Wrong picture.

Just a minute.



There we go...


Vincente Fox (left) and George W. Bush (right).

16 posted on 12/04/2005 9:27:25 AM PST by fallujah-nuker (America needs more SAC and less empty sacs.)
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To: FreeReign

"What should be the procedure for checking employers?"

Let INS perform as they did in the 80s and before, continually raid businesses and deport the illegals, pick them up on the street and deport them, raid the train, bus, and airports. I worked then, it will work again if only the higher ups in the department will let it.


17 posted on 12/04/2005 9:29:13 AM PST by dalereed
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To: fallujah-nuker

Vincente Fox (left) and George W. Bush (right).
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A tragic relationship for the REAL U.S. CITIZEN.


18 posted on 12/04/2005 9:31:13 AM PST by EagleUSA
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To: EagleUSA
A tragic relationship for the REAL U.S. CITIZEN.

Every time Dubya bends over we get shafted.
19 posted on 12/04/2005 9:33:45 AM PST by fallujah-nuker (America needs more SAC and less empty sacs.)
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To: fallujah-nuker

Every time Dubya bends over we get shafted.
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And he has a real HABIT of bending over, very often. Too bad, I don't know what else we patriotic Amercians can do to clean up Washington -- we gave a "conservative" (ha!) President two terms in the WH, and a Congressional majority to support it, and what have we gotten? Little more than what the Socialist Dems would have done TO (not for) this country...we need REAL CONSERVATISM in control in Washington and real fast!!


20 posted on 12/04/2005 9:42:47 AM PST by EagleUSA
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