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Dean: US Won't Win in Iraq
WOAI,com ^ | December 5, 2005 | Jim Forsyth

Posted on 12/05/2005 9:15:10 AM PST by Quilla

(SAN ANTONIO) -- Saying the "idea that we're going to win the war in Iraq is an idea which is just plain wrong," Democratic National Chairman Howard Dean predicted today that the Democratic Party will come together on a proposal to withdraw National Guard and Reserve troops immediately, and all US forces within two years.

Dean made his comments in an interview on WOAI Radio in San Antonio.

"I've seen this before in my life. This is the same situation we had in Vietnam. Everybody then kept saying, 'just another year, just stay the course, we'll have a victory.' Well, we didn't have a victory, and this policy cost the lives of an additional 25,000 troops because we were too stubborn to recognize what was happening."

Dean says the Democratic position on the war is 'coalescing,' and is likely to include several proposals.

"I think we need a strategic redeployment over a period of two years," Dean said. "Bring the 80,000 National Guard and Reserve troops home immediately. They don't belong in a conflict like this anyway. We ought to have a redeployment to Afghanistan of 20,000 troops, we don't have enough troops to do the job there and its a place where we are welcome. And we need a force in the Middle East, not in Iraq but in a friendly neighboring country to fight (terrorist leader Musab) Zarkawi, who came to Iraq after this invasion. We've got to get the target off the backs of American troops.

Dean didn't specify which country the US forces would deploy to, but he said he would like to see the entire process completed within two years. He said the Democratic proposal is not a 'withdrawal,' but rather a 'strategic redeployment' of U.S. forces.

"The White House wants us to have a permanent commitment to Iraq. This is an Iraqi problem. President Bush got rid of Saddam Hussein and that was a great thing, but that could have been dome in a very different way. But now that we're there we need to figure out how to leave. 80% of Iraqis want us to leave, and it's their country."

Dean also compared the controversy over pre-war intelligence to the Watergate scandal which brought down Richard Nixon's presidency in 1974.

"What we see today is very much like what was going in Watergate," Dean said. "It turns out there is a lot of good evidence that President Bush did not tell the truth when he was asking Congress for the power to go to war. The President said last week that Congress saw the same intelligence that he did in making the decision to go to war, and that is flat out wrong. The President withheld some intelligence from the Senate Intelligence Committee. He withheld the report from the CIA that in fact there was no evidence of weapons of mass destruction (in Iraq), that they did not have a nuclear program. They (the White House) selectively gave intelligence to the United States Senate and the United States Congress and got them to give the go ahead to attack these people."


TOPICS: Foreign Affairs; Government; News/Current Events
KEYWORDS: chairmandean; cutnrunmurtha; dean; demlies; demslie; dnc; enemywithin; fifthcolumn; iraq; saddam; waronterror
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LOSER!


1 posted on 12/05/2005 9:15:12 AM PST by Quilla
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To: Quilla

I despise this traitor.


2 posted on 12/05/2005 9:16:13 AM PST by auto power
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To: Quilla

It's all too obvious the majority of Democrat politicians not only want us to lose the war but to lose it in the most humiliating fashion possible.


3 posted on 12/05/2005 9:16:56 AM PST by Mr. Mojo
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To: Quilla
Bush delivered victory in Iraq in 2003.

There's simply no way for the left to unspin that fact.

4 posted on 12/05/2005 9:17:08 AM PST by ChadGore (VISUALIZE 62,041,268 Bush fans.)
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To: Quilla

403-3 Democrats may "Come together" on a plan, you will not VOTE for it


5 posted on 12/05/2005 9:17:22 AM PST by MNJohnnie (Air America-truth about Iraq is a "Bush scare tactic to continue his war")
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To: Quilla
This is the same situation we had in Vietnam. Everybody then kept saying, 'just another year, just stay the course, we'll have a victory.' Well, we didn't have a victory, and this policy cost the lives of an additional 25,000 troops because we were too stubborn to recognize what was happening."

Dr. Giggles, you didn't actually go there, did you? We could have won that war if it wasn't for the Democratic Party.

Big mistake, Giggles. Big mistake.

6 posted on 12/05/2005 9:17:47 AM PST by scott7278 (Before I give you the benefit of my reply, I'd like to know what we're talking about.)
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To: Quilla

donkey...jackass...mule....


7 posted on 12/05/2005 9:17:55 AM PST by wallcrawlr (http://www.bionicear.com)
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To: Quilla

They're trying as hard as they can for us to lose another one. What a bunch of damn traitors, why do Americans tolerate this?


8 posted on 12/05/2005 9:18:00 AM PST by conservativewasp (Liberals lie for sport and hate our country.)
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To: Quilla

As if a 'peace through capitulation' Democrat would know anything about America's determination to win. The Screamer, like all pussies, doesn't know the first thing about courage or honor.


9 posted on 12/05/2005 9:18:13 AM PST by wvobiwan (It's OUR Net! If you don't like it keep your stanky routers off it!)
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To: Quilla

Why don't Howard and the Defeaticrats just come out and say they are backing Al Queda in this war! Traitor!!!!


10 posted on 12/05/2005 9:19:08 AM PST by Rummyfan
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To: Quilla

I think Dean is an idiot.

Anything else I say will get me banned.


11 posted on 12/05/2005 9:19:15 AM PST by smith288 (Peace at all cost makes for tyranny free of charge...)
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To: Quilla

" President Bush got rid of Saddam Hussein and that was a great thing, but that could have been dome in a very different way....."

details please....


12 posted on 12/05/2005 9:19:17 AM PST by vimto (Life isn't a dry run)
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To: Quilla

Happily, and justifiably, this will mean the end of the present day Democratic party. Long overdue.


13 posted on 12/05/2005 9:19:21 AM PST by Keith (now more than ever...it's about the judges)
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To: Quilla

Dean is steering the DEM wagon right off the cliff. Hit those doggies a little harder: EEEYYYOUGHH!


14 posted on 12/05/2005 9:19:31 AM PST by Shqipo (Merry Christmas to all.)
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To: scott7278

Yeah, we won on the ground, but lost anyway thanks to (Democrat) politicians.


15 posted on 12/05/2005 9:20:14 AM PST by stan the beaver (We will kill the ones who eat us, and eat the ones we kill!!)
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To: Quilla
US Won't Win in Iraq

The Iraqi people and the Coalition of the Willing have already had many, many more successes than the "international community" had when it attempted to contain Saddam.

16 posted on 12/05/2005 9:21:21 AM PST by syriacus (There oughtta be a law -- that the image of every pill sold in the US is on one government website)
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To: Quilla
Hey numbnuts..NEWS FLASH...WE WON..the question is will the 'America Hating' liberals & fellow travelers at home undermine our victory, betray both it's veterans and the Iraqis yearning to be free and stay free...
17 posted on 12/05/2005 9:21:32 AM PST by joesnuffy (A camel once bit my sister-we knew just what to do- gather large rocks and squash her-Mullet Ho'mar)
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To: vimto
details please....

I believe the details you seek are buried in the bowels of KerryforPresident.com. ;-)

18 posted on 12/05/2005 9:21:41 AM PST by Quilla
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To: stan the beaver

They seem to enjoy selling out/turning our backs on those we pledge to protect.


19 posted on 12/05/2005 9:22:01 AM PST by scott7278 (Before I give you the benefit of my reply, I'd like to know what we're talking about.)
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To: conservativewasp

I'd be willing to bet that had comments like these been spewed from the head of the RNC during Clitoons presidency, he'd been killed and dumped in the Potomac.


20 posted on 12/05/2005 9:22:36 AM PST by diverteach
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