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Bush’s tough talk on immigration misses the point
Kansas City Star ^
| Dec. 04, 2005
| RICH LOWRY
Posted on 12/05/2005 8:27:02 PM PST by neverdem
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posted on
12/05/2005 8:27:02 PM PST
by
neverdem
To: neverdem
Can't argue with it. Spot on.
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posted on
12/05/2005 8:30:41 PM PST
by
wvobiwan
(It's OUR Net! If you don't like it keep your stanky routers off it!)
To: neverdem
Bush hit the exact point he wanted to. He didn't miss at all.
Now, was he right? I don't think so.
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posted on
12/05/2005 8:41:16 PM PST
by
DoughtyOne
(MSM: Public support for war waining. 403/3 House vote against pullout vaporizes another lie.)
To: wvobiwan
Only after our immigration system is under better control should we discuss a guest-worker program and amnesty for those undocumented immigrants who are entrenched in our society.This is the meat. I'm even willing to put the cream of the crop of illegal immigrants on track for permanent residency-- those who've worked hard, paid their taxes, not suckled off the government teat, learned English and otherwise demonstrated respect for our country.
Yes, they need a few points knocked off for coming and staying illegally. But they are superior to many of the diversity lottery immigrants who may enter this country legally, but proceed to demonstrate themselves to be unworthy citizens.
It takes about $2000 for a coyote to smuggle someone in illegally. It takes about $400 for a airline ticket from Mexico City to Chicago. I can't understand the great hardship to ask amnesty seekers to go home and apply in the legal manner-- or at least giving preference to those who do.
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posted on
12/05/2005 8:41:39 PM PST
by
Vigilanteman
(crime would drop like a sprung trapdoor if we brought back good old-fashioned hangings)
To: neverdem
It's the employers,stupid !
(I'm paraphrasing here,not directing this comment to anyone)
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posted on
12/05/2005 8:43:28 PM PST
by
Mears
(The Killer Queen)
That was a pretty good article. The author is right. Bush is offering us a lot of empty rhetoric on the borders as a cover for an amnesty plan that will reward criminal behavior.
To: Vigilanteman
I'll go along with a fast track for imported labor for certain markets AFTER our borders are secured and illegals removed.
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posted on
12/05/2005 8:51:33 PM PST
by
wvobiwan
(It's OUR Net! If you don't like it keep your stanky routers off it!)
To: neverdem
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posted on
12/05/2005 8:56:17 PM PST
by
rolling_stone
(Question Authority!)
Comment #9 Removed by Moderator
To: neverdem
but requiring employers to verify that their workers are legal It's been the law for decades. The form is an I-9 (INS Form 9) which every employer has to have on every employee indicating which documents were used to verify US citizenship. I trained employers on its use in the 90's. Note: every employer ... every employee. It just isn't enforced.
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posted on
12/05/2005 9:03:23 PM PST
by
zip
(Remember: DimocRat lies told often enough become truth to 48% of all Americans (NRA)))
To: neverdem
In this order:
#1. Israeli style defense barrier between US and Mexico (easily built, and for us CHEAP!)
#2. Interior enforcement. Simple step, EVERY new hire must verify SS# before beginning ANY new job. (this can already be done with the Internet, or even, (shock!) the telephone!)
Then, after measuring where we want our population and culture to be as time goes by, we can talk about where future immigrants fit in to OUR America.
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posted on
12/05/2005 9:08:15 PM PST
by
starbase
(Understanding Written Propaganda (click "starbase" to learn 22 manipulating tricks!!))
To: DoughtyOne
He'd never lie to us, why, he's a Republican!
Now, where's my koolaid..?
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posted on
12/05/2005 9:26:47 PM PST
by
Pelham
To: Pelham
Screw the koolaid...
...I need a beer.
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posted on
12/05/2005 9:32:51 PM PST
by
msf92497
(Was Republican...Now just a Conservative.)
To: wvobiwan
I'll go along with a fast track for imported labor for certain markets AFTER our borders are secured and illegals removed.
Thats like saying you will learn about Islamic culture After it removes terror . Long way of just saying never don't you think ?
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posted on
12/05/2005 9:39:44 PM PST
by
newfarm4000n
(God Bless America and God Bless Freedom)
To: neverdem
Bushs tough talk on immigration... ...was just that: talk. Nothing more. Meanwhile, his actions show that he doesn't give a good rip about the demands of the GOP base.
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posted on
12/05/2005 9:42:34 PM PST
by
Prime Choice
(We are RepubliCANs, not RepubliCAN'Ts.)
To: Prime Choice; gubamyster
To: msf92497
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posted on
12/05/2005 10:43:09 PM PST
by
clee1
(We use 43 muscles to frown, 17 to smile, and 2 to pull a trigger. I'm lazy and I'm tired of smiling.)
To: Prime Choice
And why should he care? It's not like he'll ever run for another election.
Bush is not now and never was conservative - he was just marginally better than the two putzes the Rats ran against him.
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posted on
12/05/2005 10:44:48 PM PST
by
clee1
(We use 43 muscles to frown, 17 to smile, and 2 to pull a trigger. I'm lazy and I'm tired of smiling.)
To: neverdem
No new laws. Enforce the ones we have.
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posted on
12/05/2005 10:52:20 PM PST
by
Hugin
To: Hugin
No new laws.Tell that to the various legislatures. Start repealing the obvious mistakes.
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posted on
12/05/2005 11:12:09 PM PST
by
neverdem
(May you be in heaven a half hour before the devil knows that you're dead.)
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