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Bush’s tough talk on immigration misses the point
Kansas City Star ^ | Dec. 04, 2005 | RICH LOWRY

Posted on 12/05/2005 8:27:02 PM PST by neverdem

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1 posted on 12/05/2005 8:27:02 PM PST by neverdem
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To: neverdem

Can't argue with it. Spot on.


2 posted on 12/05/2005 8:30:41 PM PST by wvobiwan (It's OUR Net! If you don't like it keep your stanky routers off it!)
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To: neverdem

Bush hit the exact point he wanted to. He didn't miss at all.

Now, was he right? I don't think so.


3 posted on 12/05/2005 8:41:16 PM PST by DoughtyOne (MSM: Public support for war waining. 403/3 House vote against pullout vaporizes another lie.)
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To: wvobiwan
Only after our immigration system is under better control should we discuss a guest-worker program and amnesty for those undocumented immigrants who are entrenched in our society.

This is the meat. I'm even willing to put the cream of the crop of illegal immigrants on track for permanent residency-- those who've worked hard, paid their taxes, not suckled off the government teat, learned English and otherwise demonstrated respect for our country.

Yes, they need a few points knocked off for coming and staying illegally. But they are superior to many of the diversity lottery immigrants who may enter this country legally, but proceed to demonstrate themselves to be unworthy citizens.

It takes about $2000 for a coyote to smuggle someone in illegally. It takes about $400 for a airline ticket from Mexico City to Chicago. I can't understand the great hardship to ask amnesty seekers to go home and apply in the legal manner-- or at least giving preference to those who do.

4 posted on 12/05/2005 8:41:39 PM PST by Vigilanteman (crime would drop like a sprung trapdoor if we brought back good old-fashioned hangings)
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To: neverdem

It's the employers,stupid !

(I'm paraphrasing here,not directing this comment to anyone)


5 posted on 12/05/2005 8:43:28 PM PST by Mears (The Killer Queen)
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That was a pretty good article. The author is right. Bush is offering us a lot of empty rhetoric on the borders as a cover for an amnesty plan that will reward criminal behavior.


6 posted on 12/05/2005 8:44:33 PM PST by SmoothTalker
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To: Vigilanteman

I'll go along with a fast track for imported labor for certain markets AFTER our borders are secured and illegals removed.


7 posted on 12/05/2005 8:51:33 PM PST by wvobiwan (It's OUR Net! If you don't like it keep your stanky routers off it!)
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To: neverdem

Spot on, Bullseye!


8 posted on 12/05/2005 8:56:17 PM PST by rolling_stone (Question Authority!)
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To: neverdem
but requiring employers to verify that their workers are legal

It's been the law for decades. The form is an I-9 (INS Form 9) which every employer has to have on every employee indicating which documents were used to verify US citizenship. I trained employers on its use in the 90's. Note: every employer ... every employee. It just isn't enforced.

10 posted on 12/05/2005 9:03:23 PM PST by zip (Remember: DimocRat lies told often enough become truth to 48% of all Americans (NRA)))
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To: neverdem
In this order:

#1. Israeli style defense barrier between US and Mexico (easily built, and for us CHEAP!)

#2. Interior enforcement. Simple step, EVERY new hire must verify SS# before beginning ANY new job. (this can already be done with the Internet, or even, (shock!) the telephone!)

Then, after measuring where we want our population and culture to be as time goes by, we can talk about where future immigrants fit in to OUR America.
11 posted on 12/05/2005 9:08:15 PM PST by starbase (Understanding Written Propaganda (click "starbase" to learn 22 manipulating tricks!!))
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To: DoughtyOne

He'd never lie to us, why, he's a Republican!
Now, where's my koolaid..?


12 posted on 12/05/2005 9:26:47 PM PST by Pelham
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To: Pelham

Screw the koolaid...

...I need a beer.


13 posted on 12/05/2005 9:32:51 PM PST by msf92497 (Was Republican...Now just a Conservative.)
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To: wvobiwan

I'll go along with a fast track for imported labor for certain markets AFTER our borders are secured and illegals removed.


Thats like saying you will learn about Islamic culture After it removes terror . Long way of just saying never don't you think ?


14 posted on 12/05/2005 9:39:44 PM PST by newfarm4000n (God Bless America and God Bless Freedom)
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To: neverdem
Bush’s tough talk on immigration...

...was just that: talk. Nothing more. Meanwhile, his actions show that he doesn't give a good rip about the demands of the GOP base.

15 posted on 12/05/2005 9:42:34 PM PST by Prime Choice (We are RepubliCANs, not RepubliCAN'Ts.)
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To: Prime Choice; gubamyster

16 posted on 12/05/2005 10:13:49 PM PST by Travis McGee
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To: msf92497

Muy cervezas


17 posted on 12/05/2005 10:43:09 PM PST by clee1 (We use 43 muscles to frown, 17 to smile, and 2 to pull a trigger. I'm lazy and I'm tired of smiling.)
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To: Prime Choice

And why should he care? It's not like he'll ever run for another election.

Bush is not now and never was conservative - he was just marginally better than the two putzes the Rats ran against him.


18 posted on 12/05/2005 10:44:48 PM PST by clee1 (We use 43 muscles to frown, 17 to smile, and 2 to pull a trigger. I'm lazy and I'm tired of smiling.)
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To: neverdem

No new laws. Enforce the ones we have.


19 posted on 12/05/2005 10:52:20 PM PST by Hugin
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To: Hugin
No new laws.

Tell that to the various legislatures. Start repealing the obvious mistakes.

20 posted on 12/05/2005 11:12:09 PM PST by neverdem (May you be in heaven a half hour before the devil knows that you're dead.)
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