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1968 Presidential Upstart McCarthy Dies.
AP ^ | By FREDERIC J. FROMMER

Posted on 12/11/2005 12:22:08 AM PST by Goldwater-Reagan Republican

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In 1980 he endorsed Republican Ronald Reagan with the argument that anyone was better than incumbent Jimmy Carter, a Democrat.

At least, was right on this... may he rest in Peace.

1 posted on 12/11/2005 12:22:10 AM PST by Goldwater-Reagan Republican
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To: Goldwater-Reagan Republican

To his credit, he forced LBJ out of office.


2 posted on 12/11/2005 12:34:17 AM PST by RTINSC (Being Offended is the Natural Consequence of Leaving Your Home...)
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3 posted on 12/11/2005 12:47:07 AM PST by Goldwater-Reagan Republican
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To: Goldwater-Reagan Republican

The media will only talk about Richard Pryor


4 posted on 12/11/2005 1:35:32 AM PST by Seven Minute Maniac
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After the attacks of Sept. 11, 2001, McCarthy said the United States was partly to blame for ignoring the plight of Palestinians.

"You let a thing like that fester for 45 years, you have to expect something like this to happen," he said in an interview at the time. "No one at the White House has shown any concern for the Palestinians."

What a scumbag. It looks like Mohammed Atta has found a new roommate.

5 posted on 12/11/2005 1:59:12 AM PST by LdSentinal
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To his credit? Just think what would happen if he won --- you'd probably want LBJ back.

You line of reasoning has dangerous consequences and has been followed before: Germans sighed with relief when "Hitler -- to his credit, whatever his weaknesses are --- at least forced the previous government out of office."

6 posted on 12/11/2005 2:11:42 AM PST by TopQuark
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To: Seven Minute Maniac

I had the same reaction. Drudge headlines the demise of Pryor whose contribution to the country was to ratchet up vulgarity. It reminds me of the deaths of Princess Diana and Mother Teresa, the latter almost overlooked at the time in the hysteria over Diana.


7 posted on 12/11/2005 2:12:42 AM PST by Malesherbes
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To: TopQuark

I appreciate your concern about my dangerous line of reasoning. McCarthy didn't have a remote chance at winning the presidency. If McCarthy had been elected President, your comment would make sense. Comparing this statement to praises of relief that Hitler forced out the previous government, is a reach.


8 posted on 12/11/2005 2:56:05 AM PST by RTINSC (Being Offended is the Natural Consequence of Leaving Your Home...)
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"... he opposed the Vietnam War because "as it went on, you could tell the people running it didn't know what was going on.""

If he would have specifically said "Johnson and McNamera didn't know what was going on" I could agree with him.

9 posted on 12/11/2005 3:20:40 AM PST by LZ_Bayonet
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If McCarthy had . been elected President, your comment would make sense. Comparing this statement to praises of relief that Hitler forced out the previous government, is a reach.

Please, let me assure you, there was no offense intended on my part. To make a point, it helps to present it in the clearest, hence often extreme, form We may disagree on that, but I assure you that no offense was intended, so please don't take any.

10 posted on 12/11/2005 3:29:39 AM PST by TopQuark
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To: Goldwater-Reagan Republican

McCarthy would have been a terrible President. He was extremely egotistical and his policy prescriptions were often bizarre.

That being said, I have a lot of nostalgia for McCarthy's 1968 campaign. He bumped off singlehandedly an incumbent President from his own party; that takes guts and energy no matter how you view him.

I guess I'm glad America produces politicians like McCarthy -- real individualists who often make a difference, no matter that they'd be terrible Presidents if they ever got elected.


11 posted on 12/11/2005 4:43:36 AM PST by Poundstone
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Instead of giving people a chance to earn a living, McCarthy said, the Great Society "became affirmative action and more welfare. It was an admission the New Deal had failed or fallen."

That was an amazing comment.

12 posted on 12/11/2005 4:48:09 AM PST by Dr. Scarpetta
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"If he would have specifically said "Johnson and McNamera didn't know what was going on" I could agree with him."

The problem is that the lying, weasels DID know what was going on. McNamara confessed to this finally in a self serving book he wrote several years ago.

LBJ/McNamara/Clifford and all the rest deliberately prevented us from winning in order to have enough money for their (failed) Great Society Program. By the way that is where your Social Security money went too. Johnson and the DemocRATS dumped the Social Security trust fund into the "general revenues" of the Budget.Spent every damn dime of it too.

13 posted on 12/11/2005 5:30:28 AM PST by Jimmy Valentine (DemocRATS - when they speak, they lie; when they are silent, they are stealing the American Dream)
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"No one at the White House has shown any concern for the Palestinians."

Not true, but if it were true the problem with this would be ...?

I have no concern for a terrorist state bent on destroying Israel and other "infidels".

If it were up to me, the Muslims would truly live as a "religion of peace" like the rest of us ... or die.

Fortunately for the world President Bush shows a lot more diplomacy than I would.

14 posted on 12/11/2005 5:51:57 AM PST by manwiththehands ("Have a RamaHanuKwanzMas" - Glenn Beck (And Merry Christmas!))
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>I guess I'm glad America produces politicians like McCarthy -- real individualists who often make a difference, no matter that they'd be terrible Presidents if they ever got elected.<

Substitute the name, "Perot" for "McCarthy" in the above sentence.


15 posted on 12/11/2005 6:08:59 AM PST by Darnright (Remember that a lone amateur built the Ark. A large group of professionals built the Titanic.)
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Actually Perot inflicted more damage to conservatism, than all the liberal Presidents in the second half of the 19th century. If Bush I had won, many things wouldn't have happened (terrorism in America) and our Supreme Court would have already turned to reason.
16 posted on 12/11/2005 7:18:44 AM PST by Goldwater-Reagan Republican
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To: Goldwater-Reagan Republican

It's interesting to speculate what would have happened had Perot kept out of the race. Would we just have put Clinton and the damage he did off 4 years? Knowing what we do now, Clinton is nothing if not one of the most ambitious individuals to hit American politics in modern times.


17 posted on 12/11/2005 8:13:54 AM PST by Darnright (Remember that a lone amateur built the Ark. A large group of professionals built the Titanic.)
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To: Darnright

That's a good point. The thought of Clinton possibly winning in 1996 for the first time is scary: he very well might have won re-election in 2000 and we would've had him in charge on 9/11. Not quite as scary as Al Gore being in the White House on 9/11 but still not a pleasant thought.


18 posted on 12/11/2005 9:43:27 AM PST by sassbox (Weis, Weis, Baby!)
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"Actually Perot inflicted more damage to conservatism, than all the liberal Presidents in the second half of the 19th century. If Bush I had won, many things wouldn't have happened (terrorism in America) and our Supreme Court would have already turned to reason."

If Bush I had shown some guts in dealing with the Middle Eastern extremists as well as Saddam, he would have been reelected. I voted for Perot in 1992 because a) Bush didn't deserve reelection; b) Clinton was a weaselly idiot; and c) my state, Maryland, was going to go Democratic anyway, so I didn't waste my vote. (Electoral votes, remember?)

Bush I suffered the bad habits of the moderate GOPers.
19 posted on 12/11/2005 10:11:09 AM PST by GAB-1955 (being dragged, kicking and screaming, into the Kingdom of Heaven....)
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"The problem is that the lying, weasels DID know what was going on. McNamara confessed to this finally in a self serving book he wrote several years ago."

I wouldn't buy his book but did search through it at a bookstore when it came out. The only thing I was interested in was what he had to say about why we didn't launch ground assaults, by land or sea, into North Vietnam in order to force them to leave troops behind to protect their territory. The only thing I found was a statement to the effect that that tactic was never a serious option. Of course without using that option we were fighting the war on their terms. Johnson and McNamera, limiting and micro-managing the war, what a team. Notice the MSM never pushed the invasion option either.

20 posted on 12/11/2005 2:19:08 PM PST by LZ_Bayonet
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