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1 posted on 12/18/2005 12:26:29 AM PST by F14 Pilot
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To: F14 Pilot
...there will be a military presence for a long time.

Good. To the victor go the spoils.

American soldiers in Baghdad is a cataclysmic turning point in history, regardless of the political necessity to play down the invasion and liberation of Iraq.

2 posted on 12/18/2005 12:31:46 AM PST by Dr. Eckleburg (Semper eo pro iocus.)
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To each his own...

LA Times certainly managed to find an "appropriate" headline - and managed to make light of Powell's comments on the pre-war intelligence.

Good to know that there is still one constant in the world, MSM's leftist bias.
/sarcasm

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3 posted on 12/18/2005 12:32:53 AM PST by ScaniaBoy (Part of the Right Wing Research & Attack Machine)
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"But essentially just to walk away, to say that we're taking all of our troops out as fast as we can, would be a tragic mistake. It's going to be years."

Fine. Whatever it takes. WHATEVER it takes.

4 posted on 12/18/2005 12:34:59 AM PST by Hound of the Baskervilles (Liberals are unfit for citizenship in a country that values freedom and courage.)
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To: F14 Pilot

says there will be a military presence for a long time

Well.....DUH!


5 posted on 12/18/2005 12:36:21 AM PST by ATOMIC_PUNK (secus acutulus exspiro ab Acheron bipes actio absol ab Acheron supplico)
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> Ex-secretary of State predicts a gradual reduction in troops to start in 2006, but says there will be a military presence for a long time.

Nobody seriously expected Iraq to be a frat-house panty-raid, surely? Over-and-done in one nite? Germany wasn't. Korea wasn't...


6 posted on 12/18/2005 12:37:36 AM PST by DieHard the Hunter (I am the Chieftain of my Clan. I bow to nobody. Get out of my way.)
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To: F14 Pilot
Powell is a quitter who left the stage.

Rumsfeld is a fighter and he made clear what the conditions for staying in Iraq are just last week. We will be there for as long as it takes and as long as we are invited.

We were in Saudi Arabia for years until they said they wanted us to leave and then we left. Bush already has a proven track record on this.

Powell is taking money from the left and they want "years" hysterics about Iraq to try to make it seem like we will never have complete victory, that is just BS.
7 posted on 12/18/2005 12:52:30 AM PST by Berlin_Freeper (ETERNAL SHAME on the treasonous and immoral Democrats!)
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there will be a military presence for a long time...

How long have we been in Germany, Japan, Kosovo? Regarding troop pull-out, lets leave in order of entry. First in, first out.

9 posted on 12/18/2005 2:11:27 AM PST by Jemian (Santa is wearing desert camouflage and delivering freedom in Iraq. ~ Sgt. Joshua Howser)
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Please name all countries with which the US is friendly in which we do not have a military presence.


10 posted on 12/18/2005 2:12:04 AM PST by msnimje (Political Correctness -- An OFFENSIVE attempt not to offend.)
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We’ve been in Germany and Japan for years too.


15 posted on 12/18/2005 4:09:40 AM PST by R. Scott (Humanity i love you because when you're hard up you pawn your Intelligence to buy a drink.)
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Hey, Colin--longer than Korea?


16 posted on 12/18/2005 4:14:55 AM PST by freeangel ( (free speech is only good until someone else doesn't like what you say))
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Powell has a lot to say, most of it self serving. On a side note...forgive me, but I caught Mark Steyn on C-Span late last night...a speech before the Cleremont Society. (I think). If they replay it again and you have a chance to see it, he's terrific. Late in the speech, and it was all too short, he shuffled half a dozen pages aside, kept talking, and I wondered what we missed because time ran short.


20 posted on 12/18/2005 4:38:57 AM PST by hershey
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Why doesn't Powell simply say he supports what we've achieved in Iraq, that democracy for the Middle East is a noble cause. To think otherwise is racist, and you'd think Powell of all people, would understand this.


21 posted on 12/18/2005 4:42:19 AM PST by hershey
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FReepers have been stating this since the invasion. After all, we still have troops in Germany, and this war is at least as important.
23 posted on 12/18/2005 5:03:47 AM PST by Caipirabob (Democrats.. Socialists..Commies..Traitors...Who can tell the difference?)
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We've been in Cuba for what, over a hundred years? Nothing wrong with a military presence.


24 posted on 12/18/2005 5:04:55 AM PST by gotribe (Hillary: Accessory to Rape)
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There will be a major air base in Iraq forever.


27 posted on 12/18/2005 5:26:23 AM PST by bert (K.E. ; N.P . McCain......Angry, frustrated,flustered, shot down.)
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Powell wasn't really cut out to be SecState; ee hated traveling for one thing. He was, however, the "moderate" face of the Administration.

He has every right to be bitter. He and George Tenet worked hard and long, scrubbing his presentation to make sure it was accurate. There were doubts about Curveball and the aluminum tubes and those doubts were squashed. His presentation to the U.N. changed a lot of minds on Iraq. How would you like to put your credibility and that of your country on the line only to have it undercut?

He spent six weeks working on OIF diplomacy, finally getting agreement from the French just seconds before he walked his daughter down the aisle. How would you like to give so much of you private life up, pursuing the noblest of goals, only to have the perfidious French betray us and make a mockery of the whole enterprise?

Colin Powell should be saluted for his service, even if we disagree with some of his leanings. Right now, the Freepers' composite view of Powell's service is that the food sucked and the portions were too small (calling him a quitter).

30 posted on 12/18/2005 7:13:18 AM PST by Dilbert56
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In other news, America still has troops in Germany, Korea, and Japan.


31 posted on 12/18/2005 7:14:46 AM PST by Jackknife ( "I bet after seeing us, George Washington would sue us for calling him 'father'." —Will Rogers)
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