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Our say: Steffen setup just a side issue (MD4BUSH vs. NCPAC)
The Capital Online ^ | December 20, 2005 | The Capital Editorial board

Posted on 12/20/2005 5:47:51 PM PST by HighWheeler

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To: conservative in nyc
Last I checked, we held elections in November, not October.

Momentary, but notable, loss of brain function. Pardon.

Hopefully, the point still remains: that here is one of the most heated elections in the history of our country and a guy named MD4Bush "joins the party" (so to speak) right at election time.

Course, we now know that MD4Bush was a paid democrat operative, so it really doesn't matter. [wink]

Just goes to show that even when someone isn't brand new and an obvious ZOT, that the Viking Kittys should be ready to strike.

21 posted on 12/21/2005 5:55:54 AM PST by mattdono ("Crush the RATs and RINOs, drive them before you, and hear the lamentations of the scumbags" - Arnie)
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To: conservative in nyc

Thanks for the pings to this story.

Interesting that this "editorial" isn't screaming the word 'entrapment' as they would if the party affiliations were reversed.


22 posted on 12/21/2005 9:18:17 AM PST by BlessedByLiberty (Respectfully submitted,)
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To: dbehsman

"If I recall correctly, wasn't it the great DEMOCRAT Bill Clinton who, upon entering the White House, fired ALL federal prosecutors and the entire travel office?"

-- -- --


But, but, Clinton was cleaning the WH of evil people, so he could fill them with such competent people as Jocelyn Elders.


23 posted on 12/21/2005 10:01:27 AM PST by HighWheeler (RATS hero is an impeached, dis-barred, lying, perjuring, cheating, lazy, cowardly sexual predator)
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To: BlessedByLiberty

"Interesting that this "editorial" isn't screaming the word 'entrapment' as they would if the party affiliations were reversed."



Excellent point.


24 posted on 12/21/2005 10:03:10 AM PST by HighWheeler (RATS hero is an impeached, dis-barred, lying, perjuring, cheating, lazy, cowardly sexual predator)
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To: HighWheeler

Funny how these scumbags at 'The Capital' conveniently neglect to mention the complicity of a Washington Post reporter in this "setup".


25 posted on 12/21/2005 10:04:56 AM PST by Lancey Howard
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To: Jim Robinson

(( ping ))


26 posted on 12/21/2005 10:05:49 AM PST by Lancey Howard
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To: HighWheeler
Of course! (slapping hand to forehead)

How could I have forgotten that?

(sarcasm off)

Isn't it just simply breath taking how the media verbally crucified Dan Quayle and left Jocelyn Elders relatively alone. Elders had to go out of her way to make herself look foolish before something finally had to be done. Or Al Gore for another example.

The double standards and hypocrisy of the media are astounding.
27 posted on 12/21/2005 10:22:54 AM PST by dbehsman (NRA Life member and loving every minute of it!)
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To: Lancey Howard
"Funny how these scumbags at 'The Capital' conveniently neglect to mention the complicity of a Washington Post reporter in this "setup"."

That's because these guys are too busy being "non-biased" journalists. (sarcasm off)
28 posted on 12/21/2005 10:25:11 AM PST by dbehsman (NRA Life member and loving every minute of it!)
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To: mattdono
Your post leads me to conclude that what likely happened here is that Ryan O'Doherty, in his official capacity as an employee of the Maryland Democratic Party, used its resources to conduct an Internet witch hunt on Joseph Steffen. Remember, O'D was the webmaster for the Dems and so he doubtless knows a lot about who trace people's identities on the Internet. My guess is he started trolling several known conservative message boards and chat rooms until he found Steffen here on FR and then set him up.

This had nothing to to with Martin O'Malley, it had everything to do with the Maryland Democrats trying to set up Joe Steffen to force his firing, because he was purging the state government of Democrat moles and because they wanted to embarrass Gov. Ehrlich. I will never believe that O'Doherty did this on his own, his superiors in the Maryland Democratic Party had to have known about it. And therein lies the scandal. This is a political dirty trick of epic proportions.

Imagine if the communications director for the RNC used RNC computers in 1998 to register on some liberal message boards with fake pro-Gore sounding screennames and then lured Al Gore's chief of staff into commenting on George W. Bush's alleged drug use. Would the media have howled about the rumor-mongering, or would it have gone after the RNC operative for setting the whole thing up and posing online as a Gore supporter? You make the call. My guess is that an incident like this would have led to the firing of several top people at the RNC, huge apologies to Al Gore and his staff person, and official disavowals by the Bush campaign which would have been sneered at by the MSM. This dirty trick would have dogged Bush the entire campaign. That is what SHOULD happen to the Maryland Democratic Party, Ryan O'Doherty, and whoever wins the Democratic nomination for Governor in 2006. But of course, it won't, because we have the "bigger scandal" of Joe Steffen helping to get rid of Democrat moles in state government who were undermining Gov. Ehrlich and giving information to his political enemies.

29 posted on 12/21/2005 1:37:15 PM PST by Dems_R_Losers (The Kerry/Lehane/Wilson/Grunwald/Cooper plot to destroy Karl Rove has failed!)
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Not to mention the fact that MD4BUSH and probably Matthew Mosk at the Post violated federal law by allowing Mosk to log in to MD4BUSH's FR account and read his posts and private messages and by publicly posting private FReepmails between MD4BUSH and NCPAC (this was done in a blatant attempt to circumvent the law by making the illegally-obtained private messages public just before the Post story hit the wires.) If this had been the Gore-RNC scenario, you had better believe that the U.S. attorney would have prosecuted the RNC operative in a nanosecond. Terry McAuliffe would have been all over the airwaves about the "criminals" at the RNC who "invaded the privacy" of a White House aide.


30 posted on 12/21/2005 1:42:37 PM PST by Dems_R_Losers (The Kerry/Lehane/Wilson/Grunwald/Cooper plot to destroy Karl Rove has failed!)
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Imagine if the communications director for the RNC used RNC computers in 1998 to register on some liberal message boards with fake pro-Gore sounding screennames and then lured Al Gore's chief of staff into commenting on George W. Bush's alleged drug use. Would the media have howled about the rumor-mongering, or would it have gone after the RNC operative for setting the whole thing up and posing online as a Gore supporter?

Neither. They would have just run with the drug use story again.

31 posted on 12/21/2005 1:42:59 PM PST by kevkrom ("Zero-sum games are transactions mostly initiated by thieves and governments." - Walter Williams)
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To: Dems_R_Losers
I think that your assessement is accurate.

Indeed, it is certainly curious that NCPAC (Steffen) was pretty open and honest about his brand of politics, that he was involved in politics, that had worked on many campaigns (all democrat foes, btw), and posted on a variety of topics.

What NCPAC never did, IN ANY OF THE THREADS on FR, was to quote-unquote "rumor-monger". Only an idiot or a liar could come up with conclusions to the contrary. And, while the left constantly has me asking myself, "Maybe these people really are that stupid?", I'm forced to admit that they aren't stupid. It leaves me with the more appropriate and only remaining choice: they are flatly dishonest. To their very core, these people are only about political hackery and advancement. All other things be damned.

If the "tables were turned", the media would have gone into orgasmic seizures by now. They, literally, would have killed each other stampeding to the microphones, keyboards, and presses. It would be wall-to-wall coverage, front-page news, so on and so on.

The reason that it's not is because, when the left's ideas (actions, thoughts, etc.) are compared to the right's ideas (actions, thoughts, etc.), the conservative movement comes up on the winning side of the argument 99% of the time.

And, they just can't have it. So, they shut the real story down, chop out the facts, wordsmith phrases to hieghten (or lessen) the impact (depending on their agenda and desired outcome). And that's what we get out of over 90% of the media.

When both sides of the story are told, most reasonably intelligent people would ask the left, "Who are you people? What planet did you come from? And, why do you all look like a bunch of pansies?" (or something to that effect).

Flat out. It doesn't really take a genius to know that these people are liars. Plain and simple.

For leftists...if they make a serious statement and it turns out to be true, they are oh-so perscient; if they are wrong, then they were "taken out of context" or "just kidding".

When you point out facts, lefts ignore it or accuse you of being a racist-bigoted-homophobic-oil-grubbing-hate-monger...and that's just to start.

32 posted on 12/21/2005 2:17:18 PM PST by mattdono ("Crush the RATs and RINOs, drive them before you, and hear the lamentations of the scumbags" - Arnie)
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To: dbehsman
The Capital editorial writer hasn't yet got around to researching how many comptent republicans were fired or even hired for state jobs by Parris Glendenning and William Donald Schaeffer.

Maryland state democrats NEVER make partisan hiring and firing decisions (this is a paid political announcement brought to you by MD4BUSH)
33 posted on 12/26/2005 7:28:56 AM PST by silverleaf (Fasten your seat belts- it's going to be a BUMPY ride.)
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To: HighWheeler

Didn't MD4BUSH also pass along some tidbits about Senator Babs Milkulski's sex life? Not mentioned here....


34 posted on 12/26/2005 7:30:44 AM PST by silverleaf (Fasten your seat belts- it's going to be a BUMPY ride.)
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To: HighWheeler

MD4BUSH bump


35 posted on 12/27/2005 4:25:28 PM PST by indcons
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