NYT = COPPERHEADS!
Posted on 12/27/2005 4:58:53 AM PST by liberallarry
JAKARTA, Indonesia - The closest most people will ever get to remote Papua, or the operations of Freeport-McMoRan, is a computer tour using Google Earth to swoop down over the rain forests and glacier-capped mountains where the American company mines the world's largest gold reserve.
With a few taps on a keyboard, satellite images quickly reveal the deepening spiral that Freeport has bored out of its Grasberg mine as it pursues a virtually bottomless store of gold hidden inside. They also show a spreading soot-colored bruise of almost a billion tons of mine waste that the New Orleans-based company has dumped directly into a jungle river of what had been one of the world's last untouched landscapes.
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NY Slimes. Thier stock slide is steeper than the sides of the big pit.
I don't believe ANYTHING printed in the Slimes, there is more to this story than the report says. How do we know if the "bad" American Corporation hasn't paid millions to the government of Indonesia to repair and renew the damage done by their mining operations? Once again, the whole story is not reported by the America hating New York Slimes.
How do you "repair" a billion tons of waste dumped directly into a pristine river? But if you doubt the story then google the company and see whether they say they've done what you propose.
Corporations BAD. They ruin the environment, rip off the workers and consumers, and don't produce anything of "real" value.
Take the NY Times as a prime example...
Or is it because I want the same rules to apply to everyone no matter how 'enlightened' they are, and that I think you need to have objective evidence to justify your positions instead of nothing but bloviating and self sanctifying moralizing.
Please tell me.... I'm dying to know.
Think of all the trees that are slashed and razed just so the slimes can print their propaganda. No corporation does any more harm to the world than the NYslimes
Nice environmental tactics.
First, you did not define 'waste'. I suspect that the 'waste' in this case is nothing more than soil and rock. But the term 'waste' holds such a better connotation, doesn't it?
What is a 'pristine' river? One that is untouched by man? Is there a scientific definition of 'pristine'? I doubt it.
Environmental arguments without emotion are hollow.
With regard to 'repair', please stay away from the river. You environmentalists have the worst track record on cleaning anything up, as you typically do more harm than good.
And he got Bill to declare the Escalante-Grand Staircase a national monument in 1996...
This makes it fairly obvious that the citizens of Escalante are exercising their fundamental right to self-defense, and that they perceive some threat to their independence and autonomy.
This feeling of threat is a direct result of the indefensible land grab by the Clinton administration that created the Escalante-Grand Staircase National Monument in 1996 and closed 2 million acres of coal-rich land to development and other productive use. It is also obvious that the actions of the federal government supported by environmentalists have no constitutional basis. To try to justify the land grab using the "general welfare" clause or the "interstate commerce" clause doesn't hold water. Creating this monument was the act of an arrogant, obnoxious administration, especially when we consider that the only other source for the clean burning coal found in Escalante is in Indonesia, controlled by James Riady.
Before the internet, the Times could ignore things like this, but it's harder now. You can't point to Indonesia without mentioning Clinton corruption. I mean, you can, but someone will call you out on it. Hell, I'll even grant you that Republicans can be painted with the same brush.
Nice try, though...
So, if I understand correctly, these people take piles of dirt from the earth and place it ... in a different location on top of the earth. Oooooh scary....
Ahh...the voice of conscience for those of us who have none--the NYT.
I've already told you...but I'll try to tell you again even though you don't want to hear it.
People who live in places like Papua see the devastation and are smart enough to know that the money that's being made isn't going to them. Simple.
I saw the same process in Guatemala in '74.
You don't. Imagine a toxic waste dump right next to your house with poisons leaching into your water supply.
Weren't ALL rivers pristine before man started using them? Do you live in a house? Wood was most likely harvested using less than pristine methods. Ever buy your wife diamonds, or gold? Do you ever use any electricity?
Quit being a hypocrite.
But I know the Escalante area. I was in Phipps/Death Hollow in the '70s. I'm glad the area was declared a national monument if that will preserve it from development. I don't care anymore about the rights of the residents than they care about the rights of the natives of New Guinea.
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