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David Letterman Proves Culture War Is Real
Human Events Online ^ | 9 January 2006 | Bill O'Reilly

Posted on 01/08/2006 5:13:35 PM PST by Aussie Dasher

Even though the war on terror dominates the headlines, the culture war in America is almost as intense. On one side you have traditionalists, people who believe the country was well-founded, does mostly good things, and has become the most powerful nation on earth by adhering to Judeo-Christian principles like generosity, justice, and self-sacrifice.

On the other side of the culture war are the secular-progressives (S-P's) who believe that the USA is fundamentally a flawed country, which has caused considerable misery both within and outside our borders. The S-P's want drastic change and a new direction for America.

The two most intense issues in the culture war right now are how to deal with terrorism and what role spirituality should play in the public arena.

The S-P's want little or no public displays of God or religion. That's what drove the attacks on Christmas images and traditions; knock down the big Christian holiday, and the secularists achieve a big victory.

On the terror front, traditionalists largely want aggressive action to wipe out the "evildoers," and if lraq is the battlefield, then so be it.

Secular-progressives are appalled by the Iraq war and generally believe the USA has no right to act unilaterally to hunt down terrorists or their enablers.

So the stage was set for my recent appearance on the David Letterman show. I am a traditionalist; Mr. Letterman tends to mock traditionalists. And he often does it very well.

Our discussion began with the Christmas controversy. Dave did not see it as a big deal. When I pointed out the absurdity of a library in Memphis, Tennessee OK'ing a manger scene but then telling the woman donating it that she had to remove Jesus, Mary, Joseph and the three Wise Men, Dave said he did not believe the story. And, generally, that was the opinion of the liberal media: There was no Christmas controversy -- the whole thing was fabricated by religious zealots bent on establishing a theocracy.

Dave's skepticism must have come as a surprise to Memphis resident Brandi Chambless, the woman ordered to remove statues of the Holy Family and their visitors from the East. But, hey, the shepherds could stay, staring into an empty stable.

The subject quickly shifted to Iraq, a conflict both Letterman and I believe has been poorly managed. We also found common ground on the terrific performance of the U.S. military.

But then Cindy Sheehan came up. Uh-oh.

Dave, as well as many in the entertainment community, feels that Ms. Sheehan should not be criticized. He believes she is above reproach because her son, Casey, was killed in Iraq.

I do not see it that way, so sparks flew. My contention is that Ms. Sheehan is entitled to grieve and dissent in any way she wants, but her grief is being exploited by far-left elements.

And when Ms. Sheehan told Mark Knoller, a correspondent for CBS radio, that the terrorists in Iraq were "freedom fighters," she insulted thousands of other Americans who lost loved ones in Iraq.

Simply put, terrorists who blow up civilians, women and children are not freedom fighters in any sense. They are murderers, and I called Mr. Letterman on Sheehan's support of them.

I hope you saw the program. It was a rare display of the culture war on television. I told Dave I respected his views and he should respect mine. I enjoyed the joust.

By far more important, is the wake-up call many late-night viewers got. We in America are becoming a deeply divided country along cultural lines. The more we all understand what the issues are, the better. The culture war is real, and now, everybody watched Letterman that evening knows it.


TOPICS: Constitution/Conservatism; Culture/Society; Editorial; News/Current Events; Philosophy
KEYWORDS: billoreilly; culturewar; davidletterman; leftyscum; letterman; oreillyidiot
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As important as the war on terror, this is another battle that MUST be won.
1 posted on 01/08/2006 5:13:37 PM PST by Aussie Dasher
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To: Aussie Dasher

I don't really think that the culture war will ever be won nor do I think that it should. A world with only one viewpoint is not one that I would want to live in.


2 posted on 01/08/2006 5:15:37 PM PST by ricardobaltazar
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To: ricardobaltazar

That's why we must fight. It's OUR view they're trying to destroy.


3 posted on 01/08/2006 5:16:50 PM PST by Aussie Dasher (The Great Ronald Reagan & John Paul II - Heaven's Dream Team!)
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To: Aussie Dasher

20 years ago, the fight would have been over and Letterman would have won. Things change.


4 posted on 01/08/2006 5:18:15 PM PST by Tribune7
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To: ricardobaltazar; StarCMC; Old Sarge

Winning means not letting the other side dominate. If you're going to play the game, you play to win!

Welcome to Free Republic, btw.


5 posted on 01/08/2006 5:19:14 PM PST by Fawnn (Canteen wOOhOO Consultant and CookingWithPam.com person - Faith makes things possible, not easy.)
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To: Aussie Dasher

The funny thing is that Letterman used to be somewhat of a conservative albeit an irreverent one.


6 posted on 01/08/2006 5:19:38 PM PST by Chi-townChief
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To: Aussie Dasher

But given the chance, either side would choose to destroy the other's. I wouldn't want either side to 'win". I believe that both sides should fight to make sure that their views are represented but to make it seem that it is a battle to be won by one side or the other makes both parties wrong, in my opinion.


7 posted on 01/08/2006 5:20:21 PM PST by ricardobaltazar
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To: Chi-townChief

I wonder what went wrong.

He used to give Slick Willy and Gore hell.


8 posted on 01/08/2006 5:20:49 PM PST by Aussie Dasher (The Great Ronald Reagan & John Paul II - Heaven's Dream Team!)
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To: ricardobaltazar
I don't really think that the culture war will ever be won nor do I think that it should. A world with only one viewpoint is not one that I would want to live in.

I wholeheartedly agree. Without opposition viewpoints that get a far shake tyranny would be just over the horizon. Although I would like to see a little better progress on the right side.

9 posted on 01/08/2006 5:21:28 PM PST by Fzob (Why does this tag line keep showing up?)
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To: ricardobaltazar

I don't think we're out to destroy the other side.

We are, after all, the ones who respect freedom.


10 posted on 01/08/2006 5:21:55 PM PST by Aussie Dasher (The Great Ronald Reagan & John Paul II - Heaven's Dream Team!)
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To: ricardobaltazar

A world with only one viewpoint is not one that I would want to live in.

But that's what this "war" is about. Secular-Progressives only want one viewpoint: their own. Don't forget that Political Correctness began within Marxist circles as a means of social engineering. When the ACLU claims that crosses have to be removed from military cemeteries, you can tell that tolerance for others isn't really the Secular-Progressive thing.

11 posted on 01/08/2006 5:22:57 PM PST by RedRover
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To: ricardobaltazar

The socialists want to destroy all viewpoints. If anything, the conservatives and traditionalists are too tolerant to a fault.


12 posted on 01/08/2006 5:23:35 PM PST by wrathof59
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If this animosity continues much longer, it's going to stop being a cultural war, and quickly develop into a civil war. Liberals like Letterman wouldn't like the ending to that one.
13 posted on 01/08/2006 5:24:48 PM PST by appleharvey
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To: ricardobaltazar
Your amazing post amazes me and I wonder why we have had to wait for 3 or 4 days since you signed up to finally read what world you "really" want to live in.

Live Free or Die

(just remember, that die part is pretty much permanent)
14 posted on 01/08/2006 5:24:51 PM PST by TexasTransplant (NEMO ME IMPUNE LACESSET)
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To: Chi-townChief

It's Bushhatred. It's catching, like rabies.


15 posted on 01/08/2006 5:25:21 PM PST by I still care (You don't demonstrate tolerance for minorities by apologising for your own heritage- John Howard)
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To: ricardobaltazar

There is no point or value in arguing an absurd point of view.


16 posted on 01/08/2006 5:27:56 PM PST by RatRipper
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To: Aussie Dasher
And, generally, that was the opinion of the liberal media: There was no Christmas controversy -- the whole thing was fabricated by religious zealots bent on establishing a theocracy.

It was a non-story in a decade of time-wasting, energy-wasting, non-stories. A majority since 1994, the presidency since 2000, and all we've managed to do is pass a tax cut and play paddy-cake over social non-issues. Meanwhile the Beast gets bigger and bigger.

Never mind me, I'm in a foul mood.

17 posted on 01/08/2006 5:29:06 PM PST by Zeroisanumber
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To: ricardobaltazar
I don't really think that the culture war will ever be won nor do I think that it should.

Welcome to FR.

I agree with what you say...but with a huge BUT...

When you have mainstream media blasting the sheeple with their propaganda...when you have Horryweird blasting the sheeple with their propaganda...when you have idiots like Letterman using their direct pipe to the sheeple to preach his propaganda.........

Then something needs to be done. Like exposing him and his agenda. He is merely an "entertainer". When he trys to use that to further the agenda of the Dem / Lib crowd, then the gloves need to be taken off and commence the smack down.

Yes, everyone is entitle to their opinion. When you have an open channel to the sheeple, all bets are off.

LVM

18 posted on 01/08/2006 5:30:37 PM PST by LasVegasMac (The only thing slowing me down is the A**hole in front of me!)
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To: Aussie Dasher

WTF is Dave Letterman? ;^)


19 posted on 01/08/2006 5:31:32 PM PST by cyberdasher
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To: ricardobaltazar
I don't really think that the culture war will ever be won

Not until we take the gloves off.

20 posted on 01/08/2006 5:31:54 PM PST by Bear_Slayer
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