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Rare victory in Mass.--in-state tuition for illegals defeated
Cape Cod Times ^ | 01/13/06 | Kevin Dennehy

Posted on 01/14/2006 7:46:27 AM PST by raccoonradio

BOSTON - As the vote on in-state tuition for illegal immigrants approached this week, state Rep. Jeffrey Perry figured his side didn't have the votes.

Since 2002, state Rep. Jeffrey Perry has represented Sandwich, the only Cape town that voted for President Bush in 2004. Perry helped defeat tuition breaks for illegal immigrants this week.

Which, of course, isn't unusual for Perry, a Sandwich Republican and opponent of the bill. As one of just 20 GOP members in a House of Representatives with 140 Democrats, he's used to being outnumbered.

So Perry, 42, one of a circle of emerging Republican leaders on Beacon Hill, decided to take his message to a more receptive audience - talk radio fans.

For days, he slammed the tuition bill as unfair and illegal on radio shows statewide. And by Wednesday morning, lawmakers across the state were being bombarded with calls and e-mails from constituents.

By 4 p.m., even those who said they would support the bill - perhaps mindful of the election year - began to shift.

By 7 p.m. the bill failed, 96 to 57.

For Perry, a second-term representative who had carried the conservative flag on the airwaves and the House floor, it was a huge political victory.

''I can't control how people vote in here,'' he said minutes after speaking on the House floor Wednesday afternoon. ''What I can do is let people know what they're voting on. You take the message to the people and see if you can engage them.

''If you can, it's amazing what a small number of sophomore legislators can do.''

Of course, for Republicans in this Legislature, it's not just a matter of what they can do. It's what they must do.

As a group, they're outnumbered badly - 7 to 1. So while Democratic newcomers to the Legislature can become lost in the crowd, Republicans are recruited into lead roles early.

And Perry, a former Wareham police officer who has photos of President Reagan in his Boston office, has increasingly become one of their more outspoken members.

In recent months, he has been front and center on tax and public safety bills - core Republican issues.

He campaigned for Melanie's Bill, which toughened the state's drunken driving law. He pushes relentlessly for an income tax rollback, and in the fall endorsed a revocation of a retroactive capital gains tax.

Just before speaking on the House floor about immigrant tuition Wednesday, he met with Lt. Gov. Kerry Healey to discuss the controversial bill, among other things.

He also met with Minority Leader Bradley Jones, a North Reading Republican, during a lunch gathering of party leaders.

For the tuition vote, Jones believed the GOP would have the weight of public support. And party leaders made a conscious decision to go to the public through the media.

''We don't have a pride of ownership,'' Jones said. ''We work as a team.''

On this issue, though, Perry, who says he represents conservative voters on Beacon Hill, emerged as the point man.

After all, since 2002, he has represented Sandwich, the only Cape town that voted for President Bush in 2004.

Speaking on the floor Wednesday, Perry told lawmakers that the bill simply wouldn't stand up in the courtroom later.

As he spoke, opponents rose repeatedly to interrupt his case. He figured it was payback for his recent appearances on Howie Carr's Boston radio show, carried locally on WXTK, where Democrats are routinely skewered.

State Rep. Matthew Patrick, D-Falmouth, who voted in favor of the bill, was disappointed that his own party wasn't as organized as it should have been. ''Clearly it's a popular issue with the talk radio, and something Republican politicians could tap into,'' he said. ''But I thought Perry's arguments were pretty weak.

They could have been easily disproved.

''The lead person on the bill (Rep. Marie St. Fleur, D-Boston) hadn't organized a floor fight. I guess they expected it to be easier than it was.''

During the emotional debate, House leaders floated amendments they hoped would strengthen the bill, including a requirement that undocumented students promise in writing to apply for permanent residence.

But by mid-morning it was clear that support was slipping, that they probably wouldn't have enough votes to override a veto by Gov. Mitt Romney.

Just after 7 p.m., the bill was defeated, effectively killing the issue for this session.

''If you were to look at my won-loss record, you'd think I belonged in the minor leagues,'' Perry had joked earlier in the day. ''But if you look at key issues, we're doing pretty good.''


TOPICS: News/Current Events; US: Massachusetts
KEYWORDS: capecodtimes; howiecarr; illegalimmigration; illegals; instatetuition; jeffreyperry; jerrywilliams; massachusetts; talkradio
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Republicans are rare in Mass., despite having a GOP governor and Lt. Gov. Both senators and all 10 reps are Dims

Talk hosts like Howie Carr and John DePetro of WRKO helped this effort.

>>Sandwich, the only Cape town that voted for President Bush in 2004

>>By 7 p.m. the bill failed, 96 to 57.

This kind of activism via talk radio has worked in the past. The late Jerry Williams crusaded against a mandatory seat belt law, the placement of a prison in a town that didn't want it, Congressional pay hikes, etc. "Call your legislators" (this was before email) "and pressure them". He would frequently play the "I'm as mad as hell and I'm not going to take it anymore!" clip from "Network" and he helped spread the word about Mike Dukakis in 1988.

1 posted on 01/14/2006 7:46:31 AM PST by raccoonradio
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To: raccoonradio

Woo hoo! Cheers! Whistles! Fireworks!


2 posted on 01/14/2006 7:48:53 AM PST by mtbopfuyn (Legality does not dictate morality... Lavin)
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To: raccoonradio
Libs can be such hypocrites. It's just fine and dandy when it's someone else's money they're giving away. But when it comes to shelling out their own money, all those high fallutin' principles go right out the door.
3 posted on 01/14/2006 7:50:55 AM PST by mewzilla (Property must be secured or liberty cannot exist. John Adams)
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To: raccoonradio
Precedent!

Now if Kaleephornya will get its head out of its butt.....

4 posted on 01/14/2006 7:51:04 AM PST by stboz
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>> But when it comes to shelling out their own money, all those high fallutin' principles go right out the door.

Howie Carr had a great story on last night's show. Mass. has Prop 2 1/2, our version of Prop 13, and communities may vote to over-ride it (and thus increase each property owner's
taxes). Well, he mentioned one woman who enthusiastically supported an
override--it's "for the children", you see--and was shocked
to see her taxes go WAY up as a result. DUH! Now she thinks she can't afford to live in her town any more. Sure,
they'd love to increase the taxes on other people but when it hits THEM in the pocketbook or wallet..."A conservative is a liberal who got mugged"


5 posted on 01/14/2006 7:54:17 AM PST by raccoonradio
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The RNC would do well to take note that these whack job laws supporting illegals cannot be passed, even in a socialist state. During the vote, the balconey and lobby had a horde of illegals demanding their "rights" to low tuition.


6 posted on 01/14/2006 7:55:22 AM PST by putupjob
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To: raccoonradio

And the WRKO website (via Depetro and Carr pages) has the roll call vote so people can see how their reps voted. "Remember in Novemeber." (My rep, Mary Grant--a Dem., I believe, helped
to vote this unfair proposal down. yay!)


7 posted on 01/14/2006 7:58:03 AM PST by raccoonradio
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During the vote, the balconey and lobby had a horde of illegals demanding their "rights" to low tuition.

Someone should've hollered La Migra!!

8 posted on 01/14/2006 7:58:46 AM PST by mewzilla (Property must be secured or liberty cannot exist. John Adams)
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To: putupjob
Interestingly enough one reason why this was voted down was because the reps found that even if they gave illegals in-state tuition, the illegals _wouldn't be able to get a (legit) job with that education because they're illegals_! Rewarding lawbreakers...how does someone who's a citizen from a neighboring state feel when they find that an alien who broke the law gets to pay as much as a Mass. citizen, but they have to pay more?

A Boston Globe headline about the defeat referred to illegals as "undocumented"...

From a Boston Herald article:
>>Children of illegal immigrants must pay up if they want to attend state colleges after lawmakers shot down a call for a bargain rate last night.

The House rejected the bill pushing in-state tuition rates for young illegal immigrants 57-96. Bill supporters, who said they’re crushed by the rejection, vowed to keep on fighting.

“Our position is that it was the politics of fear,” said Ali Noorani, executive director of the Massachusetts Immigrant and Refugee Advocacy Coalition, promising to push for the bill again next year.

Opponents, however, took aim at the immigrants being here illegally to begin with.

“If I was in their country I’d be shaking like a leaf if I were illegal . . . I certainly would not be up in their State House demanding money,” said state Rep. Marie Parente (D-Milford).

(A Dem saying that, imagine that!!)

“America is fighting for its sovereignty today,” Parente added.

Many immigrant students say they cannot afford to attend state colleges at the out-of-state tuition rates they now must pay.

9 posted on 01/14/2006 8:03:08 AM PST by raccoonradio
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In my City, Haverhill, we haven't had a voter override on 2 1/2 since 1984, I believe. The minute one comes up the word gets out, the NO signs go up, and the arguments in front of the local deli start.


10 posted on 01/14/2006 8:04:04 AM PST by Little Bill (A 37%'r, a Red Spot on a Blue State, rats are evil.)
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To: Little Bill

No override since '84--wow!

Ah, Haverhill! Two of my uncles, including the one I was named for, were Haverhill firefighters (both passed on in the 70s).
How many people out there know that Haverhill was the inspiration for Riverdale in Archie comics? Archie creator
Bob Montana was from that city, and to this day the Haverhill
edition of the Eagle-Tribune bills the strip as "Haverhill's
Archie".


11 posted on 01/14/2006 8:09:21 AM PST by raccoonradio
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To: raccoonradio

I don't even see why the taxpayer should be paying tuition for LEGAL aliens.


12 posted on 01/14/2006 8:11:49 AM PST by Brilliant
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To: putupjob

"During the vote, the balconey and lobby had a horde of illegals demanding their "rights" to low tuition."

Perhaps U.S. Immigration should start attending some of these hearings - - looks like a good place to find illegals for roundup and deportation.


13 posted on 01/14/2006 8:16:29 AM PST by Seattle Conservative (God Bless and protect our troops and their CIC)
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To: raccoonradio
It is interesting to watch, the last time they tried was in 2002, special election. The vote in the regular election in my Precinct was one of the largest I have ever seen, over a thousand, twice normal +/-.

The City wide vote on the override was around 6500 of which the proponents got about 2500, a very small turn out, youth and exuberance does not beat old age and an increased property tax bill.

14 posted on 01/14/2006 8:25:10 AM PST by Little Bill (A 37%'r, a Red Spot on a Blue State, rats are evil.)
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To: raccoonradio
Well God Bless him! I'll bet if you look closely enough at that picture of the Gipper in Perry's office, you will see the smile is just a little bit brighter.

Imagine if we got that kind of action out of the US House and Senate MAJORITIES we hold!

15 posted on 01/14/2006 8:27:05 AM PST by NonValueAdded (What ever happened to "Politics stops at the water's edge?")
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Given Ted Kennedy, John Kerry, and this story, Massachusetts must be a very strange state.


16 posted on 01/14/2006 8:33:49 AM PST by kjo
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To: Brilliant

The taxpayer does not pay tuition for LEGAL aliens.


17 posted on 01/14/2006 8:35:33 AM PST by indcons
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To: kjo
Ted up for re-election this year and most likely will be re-elected. There are the moonbats, and then there are those who say, "He's getting old and I'm not crazy about him but he has seniority and that might work for us..." And then those who are opposed to him, but we're a minority. (if only GOP had strong candidate...Mitt Romney ran unsuccessfully against him, '94 I think).

Kerry has to choose between White House run and Senate re-election in '08, barring a change in the law that would allow him to run for both. Most likely he'll hope for a Hillary meltdown; if not, he may run in a few primaries, get whooped by Shrillary, then withdraw and concentrate on running for Senate instead.

Yes, Mass. used to have a GOP senator at one time! Ed Brooke. Elected in '66 and '72; defeated in '78 by Paul Tsongas (who left in '84, opening the way for Kerry to grab the seat.)

18 posted on 01/14/2006 8:43:06 AM PST by raccoonradio
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How can you be an in-State resident when you're in the State illegally? Massachusetts was able to figure this one out.


19 posted on 01/14/2006 9:34:55 AM PST by popdonnelly
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Ted up for re-election this year and most likely will be re-elected. ......snip...... if only GOP had strong candidate...Mitt Romney ran unsuccessfully against him, '94 I think).

I remember that race. Teddy, aka DOC (Drunken Old Clown) had by then a pattern of refusing to even engage in televised debates with his opponents. He tried that in 1994, but Mitt's numbers were rising and the DOC reluctantly agreed to debates. Even some of the MSM up here pointed out how the DOC actually had to put up a fight to defend his seat for the first time in years!

And now he's twelve years older, with twelve more years of Chivas pickling his liver. A quality challenger would be his worst nightmare, especially if those around him are allowing him to read satire at Supreme Court confirmation hearings as if it were legitimate. Add to that his general idiocy ('Osama Obama') and he'd have a problem. At least it would be fun to watch him scramble to save his sorry ***.
20 posted on 01/14/2006 10:09:57 AM PST by LostInBayport (Massachusetts liberals refuse to admit we exist...we are the 37% of MA voters who voted for GWB)
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