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Valentine kiss is ruled sexual violence
Times Online ^ | January 13, 2006 | Richard Owen

Posted on 01/16/2006 6:49:15 AM PST by ConservativeStatement

A bank manager's 'gesture of affection' towards a colleague cost him his job and a £1,000 fine

AN ITALIAN bank manager who tried to kiss a woman cashier on the lips on Valentine’s Day has lost his job, been given a 14-month suspended jail sentence and fined after being convicted of “sexual violence”. The ruling by Italy’s highest court puts another dent in the reputation of the macho Italian male, always on the lookout — according to the national myth — for a chance to pay a woman a compliment and overwhelm her with his charm. It was applauded by women’s rights campaigners.

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TOPICS: Culture/Society; Foreign Affairs
KEYWORDS: courtruling; italy; kiss; sexualviolence; valentine; valentines; valentinesday
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The world has gone mad.
1 posted on 01/16/2006 6:49:18 AM PST by ConservativeStatement
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To: MassRepublicanFlyersFan

Ban Valentine's Day! Ban flowers! Ban Valentine cards! Ban choc... NO! Don't ban chocolate.


2 posted on 01/16/2006 6:52:58 AM PST by mtbopfuyn (Legality does not dictate morality... Lavin)
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To: MassRepublicanFlyersFan

This surprises me mostly because it was in Italy.

I guess Brazil is next.


3 posted on 01/16/2006 6:56:27 AM PST by Vaquero ("An armed society is a polite society" Robert Heinlein)
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To: MassRepublicanFlyersFan

Insanity.


4 posted on 01/16/2006 6:57:00 AM PST by RockinRight ("It's as if all the brain-damaged people in America got together and formed a voting bloc" - Coulter)
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To: Vaquero

Chile, perhaps?


5 posted on 01/16/2006 6:57:06 AM PST by ConservativeStatement
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To: MassRepublicanFlyersFan

What's odd about today's society is that while we've liberalized sex, at the same time, we've tried to prohibit any sort of general gestures. On one hand, you can have sex on the steps of city hall and you're a hero, but if you ask a co-worker on a date, or (God forbid) tell her she looks nice today, you get sued and fired.


6 posted on 01/16/2006 6:58:39 AM PST by RockinRight ("It's as if all the brain-damaged people in America got together and formed a voting bloc" - Coulter)
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To: MassRepublicanFlyersFan
The world has gone mad.

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7 posted on 01/16/2006 6:58:40 AM PST by snarks_when_bored
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"The world has gone mad."
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I don't know - we need more info. If my wife worked at a banks and made it clear that she did not want to be kissed and yet she was grabbed and kissed anyway then the police would be the least of the guy's worries but we would sure as heck prosecute too.

On the other hand if this is a single woman who flirts with people in the office and kisses others then only problem is that its foolish to kiss people with whom one has a employer/employee relationship.
8 posted on 01/16/2006 6:59:56 AM PST by gondramB (Democracy: two wolves and a lamb voting on lunch. Liberty: a well-armed lamb contesting the vote.)
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To: MassRepublicanFlyersFan

I'm curious if this means they no longer grab-ass the tourist women.


9 posted on 01/16/2006 7:00:01 AM PST by Atlas Sneezed (Your FRiendly FReeper Patent Attorney)
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To: snarks_when_bored

Isn't Valentine's Day still a month away? Maybe that's the problem!


10 posted on 01/16/2006 7:00:40 AM PST by basil (Exercise your Second Amendment--buy another gun today!)
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To: MassRepublicanFlyersFan

Maybe he should have just pinced her ass like Italians did the 'old days'.


11 posted on 01/16/2006 7:00:52 AM PST by Semper Paratus
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The world has gone mad.
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And yet another reason Mark Steyn's democraphic facts on Italy came to be.


12 posted on 01/16/2006 7:01:57 AM PST by JLS
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To: MassRepublicanFlyersFan
If you were the teller how would you feel if this was your boss whom laid a sloppy one on you?:


13 posted on 01/16/2006 7:03:00 AM PST by Rebelbase (Whew! Another year until the cursed green bean casserole strikes again!)
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To: basil

Pre-Valentine's Day warm-up? (laugh)


14 posted on 01/16/2006 7:05:24 AM PST by snarks_when_bored
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"The world has gone mad. "

Imagine he was an big obnoxious gay kick boxer who’d been looking for an opportunity to kiss you for months. Only a nut would go around kissing his tellers like a harem.

15 posted on 01/16/2006 7:06:19 AM PST by elfman2
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No, just ban dirty old men from using Valentines Day as an excuse to molest young women in the office.


16 posted on 01/16/2006 7:07:04 AM PST by Galveston Grl (Getting angry and abandoning power to the Democrats is not a choice.)
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It was applauded by women’s rights campaigners.

Actually, this is the problem.

17 posted on 01/16/2006 7:07:56 AM PST by TLI (ITINERIS IMPENDEO VALHALLA, Minuteman Project AZ Day -1 to Day 8, Texas Minutemen El Paso, 32 Days)
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To: MassRepublicanFlyersFan

If this was the cumulation of a series of unwanted advances, then I think that he got what he deserved.

If this was just a friendly gesture that he had no way of knowing it would be taken badly, then he should have been instructed to treat her with respect and not make advances.

I don't know the culture there, but supervisors making advances toward employees on the clock isn't acceptable behavior.


18 posted on 01/16/2006 7:28:24 AM PST by untrained skeptic
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To: MassRepublicanFlyersFan

Better put some ice on it.


19 posted on 01/16/2006 7:29:14 AM PST by doug from upland (NEW YORK TIMES -- traitorous b*st*rds)
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To: gondramB

You know, I find this story outrageous, as does my wife. Both of us for a couple of reasons. 1. We lived for four years in Europe, and spent time in Italy. Kissing on the lips and cheeks, (male-male, male-female, female-female) is as common as a hanshake or a back-patting hug amongst friends here in the States. 2. Even here, in the States, why is it acceptable for it to be so unacceptable to, say, pass out a Valentine's card to all of your co-workers and give and get a peck or a hug. Unless the "offender" has been a pervert in the past, made my wife feel uncomfortable, didn't back away if she said "no kiss for me", or was "showing" sexual excitement, I can't imagine it would bother me.

And my wife agrees. She says, "I mean, as long as it Valentine's day and he's not singling me out, it wouldn't bother me."


20 posted on 01/16/2006 7:33:53 AM PST by raynearhood ("America is too great for small dreams." - Ronald Reagan, speech to Congress. January 1, 1984.)
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