A copy of a map that collector Liu Gang claims proves controversial theories that famed Chinese mariner Zheng He was the first person to discover America and circumnavigate the world.
A copy of a map that collector Liu Gang claims proves controversial theories that famed Chinese mariner Zheng He was the first person to discover America and circumnavigate the world.
This is going to tick of the Arab Muslims that claim they originally founded America lol.
Has Dan Rather accepted this documents authenticity?
Does this mean that Columbus is off the hook and the Chinese will be trashed for sullying the virgin land that was Pre-Columbian America?
Just looking at that map, I'm a little skeptical. If that is supposed to be a copy of the map drawn by a Chinese sailor who crossed the Pacific, how did he get the east coast of Central America to be somewhat correct, not to mention the St. Lawrence? Are they claiming that he crossed the Americas overland, or sailed around Cape Horn?
This may be true but Americans discovered Chinese Take Out. So there.
notice how the california baja penninsula is indicated much like that of early maps drawn by european explorers. hmmmm.
Who cares who happened to tread on the place and when. I know who made something of it.
On the map of NA there's an indentation that would represent Hudson's Bay ... a little more to the north east an island that might represent Greenland. I can assure you no Chinese explorer ever mapped this area of NA ... this map is a geographers version of the Turin cloth depicting Christ ... a total fabrication.
what about this piece of wood i have...it shows a map of Newfoundland and i think part of the Yukon carved on it...signed L. Eriksson...
oh yeh...when did Columbus discover Ohio?
Menzies' theories are entertaining and well thought out. Unfortunately, with the lack of hard empirical evidence, Menzies is forced to stare too hard and everything he sees gets bent a little. The Chinese backing up his claims don't help him in any positive way.
I think the story goes like this. The Chinese came to North America, found nothing interesting and left. There was also a leadership strife in China at the time. The map was given or sold to the Europeans through existing trading channels. The implication is that Columbus knew there was land here before he set sail.
Here's a little bit of trivia. There is an ancient Chinese ship anchor found in Palos Verdes, California.
I don't happen to have the details of his argument, but it was pretty persuasive. Of course, he was talking about the "Piri Reis" map owned by Christopher Columbus.
There's yet another theory that Admiral He undertook his voyages upon acquiring information of even more ancient vintage.
Yeah, so?
This is BS, the map is a cheap knock-off and forged, the Chinese excel at this kind of thing!
They are more full of shite' than a Christmas Turkey BUMP!
This screams fraud to me. Even if Chinese mariners made it to the Pacific Coast of North America... this map shows the east coast of the Americas, too. How did the Chinese fleet uncover Antarctica and Australia? Why did the Chinese hide their knowledge of the Americas and Asia being separated by ocean when no one else in the world knew it until Vitus Bering? If this Chinese mariner did circumnavigate the world, he surely ran into other cultures - where are the stories from those cultures? A fleet of a 1,000 ships showing up in your local river would be enough to prompt generations of oral tradition. Where are all the artifacts left behind no doubt by sailors on a 1,000 ship fleet? The fleet brought home a giraffe to Beijing from Africa - why not a kangaroo, or a grizzly bear, or a narwhal? I say: PROBABLY FRAUD
I got a map around here that shows that I discovered China!!!