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Divorced from reality (same sex marriages and polygamy)
The Australian ^ | 21 Jan 06 | Stanley Kurtz

Posted on 01/24/2006 2:09:51 AM PST by Fair Go

ON September 23, 2005, 46-year-old Victor de Bruijn and his 31-year-old wife of eight years, Bianca, presented themselves to a notary public in the small Dutch border town of Roosendaal. And they brought a friend. Dressed in wedding clothes, Victor and Bianca were formally united with a bridally bedecked Mirjam Geven, a recently divorced 35-year-old whom they'd met several years previously through an internet chatroom. As the notary validated a samenlevingscontract, or cohabitation contract, the three exchanged rings, held a wedding feast and departed for their honeymoon.

Although neither Gevens nor Bianca had had a prior relationship with a woman, each had believed for years that she was bisexual. Victor, who describes himself as "100 per cent heterosexual", attributes the trio's success to their bisexuality, which he says has the effect of preventing jealousy. The De Bruijns' triple union caused a sensation in The Netherlands. The story spread through the conservative side of the internet like wildfire, raising a chorus of "I told you so" from bloggers who'd long warned of a slippery slope from gay marriage to polygamy.

Meanwhile, gay marriage advocates scrambled to put out the fire. M.V. Lee Badgett, an economist at the University of Massachusetts, Amherst, and research director of the Institute for Gay and Lesbian Strategic Studies, told a sympathetic website, "Don't be fooled - Dutch law does not allow polygamy." Prominent gay marriage advocate Evan Wolfson, executive director of Freedom to Marry, offered up a detailed legal account of Dutch cohabitation contracts, treating them as a matter of minor significance, in no way comparable to state-recognised registered partnerships.

But to observers on both sides of the Dutch gay marriage debate, the De Bruijns' triple union is an unmistakable step down the road to legalised group marriage. For what gay marriage is to homosexuality, group marriage is to bisexuality. The De Bruijn trio is the tip-off to the fact that a connection between bisexuality and the drive for multipartner marriage has been developing for some time.

This is important because the Dutch campaign for same-sex marriage was famously premised on a "small step" strategy, with each small increment of recognition creating an impetus for further steps. The popularity of cohabitation contracts among Dutch gays in the 1980s helped create laws in the early '90s forbidding employer discrimination on the basis of sexual orientation.

So the use of cohabitation contracts was an important step along the road to same-sex marriage in The Netherlands. And the link between gay marriage and the De Bruijns' triple contract was immediately recognised by the Dutch.

The slippery-slope implications of were evident to the SGP, a small religious party. SGP member of parliament Kees van der Staaij noted the substantial overlap between marriage rights and the rights embodied in cohabitation contracts and sent a series of queries to Justice Minister Piet Hein Donner, asking him to dissolve the De Bruijn contract and to bar more than two persons from entering into cohabitation contracts in the future.

The minister's answers represent yet another small step - actually several small steps - towards legal and cultural recognition for group marriage in The Netherlands. Donner reaffirmed the legality of multipartner cohabitation contracts and pointedly refused to consider any attempt to ban such contracts in the future.

Donner also went so far as to assert that contracts regulating multipartner cohabitation can fulfil "a useful regulating function". In other words, Donner has articulated the rudiments of a "conservative case for group marriage".

Minority religious parties and their newspapers excepted, a mixture of approval and indifference seems to be the mainstream Dutch reaction so far. The public has not been inclined to protest these developments, and the De Bruijn trio have been welcomed by their neighbours.

Given the stir in The Netherlands, it's remarkable that no mainstream US media outlet carried the story. Of course the media were all over the Dutch gay marriage story when it thought the experiment had been a success. The common theme was that The Netherlands had experienced no ill effects from gay marriage, and that the issue was no longer contentious. Unsurprisingly, the chief sources for these articles were prominent advocates of gay marriage, who dismissed any notion that the reform might have had negative consequences. Still, the US media is correct to report that the majority of Dutch citizens have accepted the innovation. The press has simply missed the meaning of that public shift. Broad Dutch acceptance of same-sex marriage means that marriage as an institution has been detached from parenthood in the public mind. That is why the practice of parental cohabitation has grown so quickly in The Netherlands.

By the same token, the shoulder shrug that followed the triple wedding story shows that legalised group marriage in The Netherlands is now a real possibility.

If the calm Dutch response to same-sex marriage is news, it's tough to see why the Dutch public's fascinated acceptance of a triple union isn't also news. But, of course, the mainstream American press understands that the triple Dutch union cannot be spun in a way that helps the cause of same-sex marriage with the American public. Thus the silence.

Although the triple Dutch union has been loosely styled polygamy, it's actually a sterling example of polyamory. Polyamorists practise "responsible non-monogamy" - open, loving and stable relationships among more than two people. Polygamous marriages among fundamentalist Mormons or Muslims don't depend on a blending of heterosexuality and bisexuality. Yet that combination perfectly embodies the spirit of polyamory. Almost any combination of partner number and sexual orientation is possible in a polyamorous sexual grouping.

Polyamorists would call the De Bruijn union a triad. In a triad, all three partners are sexually connected. The bisexuality of Bianca and Mirjam classifies the union as a polyamorous bisexual triad. In another sense, it is also a gay marriage. The Bianca-Mirjam component of the union is gay, and legalised gay marriage in The Netherlands has clearly helped make the idea of a legally recognised bisexual triad thinkable.

The germ of an organised effort to legalise polyamory in the US can be found in the Unitarian Church. Unitarian Universalists for Polyamory Awareness was established in the northern summer of 1999. "Our vision," says UUPA's website, "is for Unitarian Universalism to become the first poly-welcoming mainstream religious denomination."

UUPA's political goals are spelled out by Harlan White, a physician and leading UUPA activist, on the society's website. White maintains that American polyamorists are growing in number: "Attendance at conferences is up, email lists and websites are proliferating, and poly support groups are growing in number and size."

As for the Unitarian polyamorists, their email list has several hundred subscribers, and the group has put on well-attended workshops at Unitarian General Assemblies since 2002. Some Unitarian ministers already perform "joining ceremonies" for polyamorous families.

Two developing lines of legal argument may some day bring about state recognition of polyamorous marriage: the argument from polyamory, and the argument from bisexuality. In a 2004 law review article, Elizabeth F. Emens, of the University of Chicago law school, offers the argument from polyamory. Polyamory is more than the mere practice of multiple sexual partnership, says Emens. Polyamory is also a disposition, broadly analogous to the disposition towards homosexuality. Whether for biological or cultural reasons, says Emens, some people simply cannot live happily without multiple simultaneous sexual partners. And for those people, Emens argues, our current system of marriage is every bit as unjust as it is for homosexuals.

The second legal strategy available to the polyamorists is the argument from bisexuality. The groundwork is being laid by Kenji Yoshino, a professor at Yale Law School. Yoshino argues that bisexuality is far more prevalent than is usually recognised. The relative invisibility of bisexuality, says Yoshino, can be attributed to the mutual interest of heterosexuals and homosexuals in minimising its significance. But according to Yoshino, the bisexuality movement is on the rise, and bound to become more visible, with potentially serious consequences for the law and politics of sexual orientation.

In addition to establishing the numerical and political significance of bisexuality, Yoshino lays down an argument that could easily be deployed to legalise polyamory: "To the extent that bisexuals are not permitted to express their dual desires, they might fairly characterise themselves as harmed."

Clearly, visibility and acceptance are on the rise. The real uptick in public bisexuality-polyamory began with the October 2005 release in New York of the documentary Three of Hearts: A Postmodern Family.

Three of Hearts is the story of the real-life 13-year relationship of two men and a woman. Together for several years in a gay relationship, two bisexual-leaning men meet a woman and create a threesome that produces two children, one by each man. Although the woman marries one of the men, the entire threesome has a commitment ceremony. The movie records the trio's eventual break-up, yet the film's website notes their ongoing commitment to the view that "family is anything we want to create".

Although Three of Hearts is in limited release , its New York premiere drew media attention to polyamory.

Of course, many argue that true bisexuality does not exist. From this perspective, so-called bisexuals are either in confused transition from heterosexuality to homosexuality, or simply lying about their supposedly dual sexual inclinations.

Whatever view we take, it is a fact that a bi-poly rights movement exists and is growing.

Somehow the idea has taken hold that tolerance for sexual minorities requires a radical remake of the institution of marriage. That is a mistake. The fundamental purpose of marriage is to encourage mothers and fathers to stay bound as a family for the sake of their children. Unfortunately, once we radically redefine marriage in an effort to solve the problems of adults, the institution is destined to be shattered by a cacophony of grown-up demands.

It took four years after the full legalisation of gay marriage in The Netherlands for the first polyamory test case to emerge. With a far larger and more organised polyamory movement, it might not take even that long after the legalisation of gay marriage in the US.

It's easy to imagine that, in a world where gay marriage was common and fully accepted, a serious campaign to legalise polyamorous unions would succeed - especially a campaign spearheaded by an organised bisexual-rights movement.

Yet win or lose, the culture of marriage will be battered for years by the debate. Just as we're now continually reminded that not all married couples have children, we'll someday be endlessly told that not all marriages are monogamous (nor all monogamists married).

For a second time, the fuzziness and imperfection found in every real-world social institution will be contorted into a rationale for reforming marriage out of existence.

The Weekly Standard

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TOPICS: Culture/Society
KEYWORDS: holland; homosexualagenda; marriage; pansexuals; polygamy
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Where will same-sex marriages lead?
1 posted on 01/24/2006 2:09:54 AM PST by Fair Go
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To: Fair Go
Our vision," says UUPA's website, "is for Unitarian Universalism to become the first poly-welcoming mainstream religious denomination."

A religion based on perversion. God help us.
2 posted on 01/24/2006 2:25:13 AM PST by HEY4QDEMS (Learn from the past, don't live in it.)
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To: Fair Go

..."Where will same-sex marriages lead?..."

The fear is that it will lead to marriages which promote the greatest kinds of disorders and perversions..Yes, perversions! Is it politically incorrect to recognize that such a thing exists???? It will then be impossible to rear normal children because of the pressures on them to ignore nature and to force themselves to participate in all kinds of sexual behavior..Or, worse, they will be forced to engage in all kinds of behavior by others..


3 posted on 01/24/2006 2:25:47 AM PST by jazzlite (esat)
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To: Fair Go

Polygamy? When did that get added in there? All my liberal friends PROMISED me that same-sex marriage wouldn't lead to the acceptance of any other perversions. "There's no slippery slope; that's just a myth" they said. They thought I was being a "divisive" "fear-monger" for even suggesting it. And yet here it is, all of a sudden, being promoted left and right. Don't worry though, the liberals PROMISE the the acceptance of polygamy won't lead to anything else. "There's no slippery slope." they say. You believe them, don't you...?


4 posted on 01/24/2006 2:25:48 AM PST by marsh_of_mists
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To: Fair Go
Where will same-sex marriages lead?

To TROP jihadists being able to marry 72 virgin camels in this life.

5 posted on 01/24/2006 2:27:26 AM PST by peyton randolph (As long is it does me no harm, I don't care if one worships Elmer Fudd.)
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To: jazzlite
It will then be impossible to rear normal children because of the pressures on them to ignore nature and to force themselves to participate in all kinds of sexual behavior.

In the state where I live, children can be married with parental consent at age 14. If same-sex marriage and polygamy are held to be constitutional, I suspect that parental consent to a minor child's marriage will be struck down too. After all, who are we to judge a NAMBLA predator who wants to marry a young boy?

There is going to be a backlash against this...America will not turn into Holland...or a nationwide San Francisco for that matter.

6 posted on 01/24/2006 2:31:05 AM PST by peyton randolph (As long is it does me no harm, I don't care if one worships Elmer Fudd.)
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To: Fair Go

They will likely receive a "nuke" from God...


7 posted on 01/24/2006 2:57:46 AM PST by ChristianDefender (There is no such thing as Moderate Islam...)
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To: Fair Go
"Where will same-sex marriages lead?"

Straight to same-sex divorce.

;o)
8 posted on 01/24/2006 3:08:34 AM PST by LIConFem (A fronte praecipitium, a tergo lupi.)
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To: Fair Go

Hopefully, thinking people of all domestic persuasions will soon come to realize how silly it is to want the government to register and regulate personal relationships between consenting adults. In this country, the only practical effect of any kind of legally recognized marriage is to hand the government permission to meddle in ones financial affairs, even beyond the obscene extent to which it already meddles in the financial affairs of people it does not regard as "married". Remind me why "conservatives" are so eager to do this?


9 posted on 01/24/2006 3:58:35 AM PST by GovernmentShrinker
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To: marsh_of_mists

Why on earth would you care if some people practice polygamy, or polyandry, or same sex marriage? Is that going to change your domestic arrangements? The only significant history of polygamy in the U.S. was among 19th century Mormons, and they hardly brought about the downfall of civilization.


10 posted on 01/24/2006 4:02:33 AM PST by GovernmentShrinker
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To: GovernmentShrinker

One reason is to stop terrible fights between heirs of estates. One man to one woman creates a simple inhertitance structure. Variants are real messes.


11 posted on 01/24/2006 4:09:58 AM PST by bvw
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To: Fair Go

I will merely state that the Chinese ideogram for "trouble"
is TWO ideograms for "woman/wife" inside the ideogram for "house".

Ancient Chinese Wisdom, indeed !!


12 posted on 01/24/2006 4:18:27 AM PST by Salgak (Acme Lasers presents: The Energizer Border: I dare you to try and cross it. . .)
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Nonsense. The messiest inheritance battles in history have involved monogamous heterosexual marriages. Actually, the key factor in fueling inheritance battles is quantity of money -- tends to provide both the motivation and the means to carry on a long, huge fight. Free citizens should have complete freedom to pass on their accumulated wealth as they please, without government assigning different tax treatment depending on whether or not it has you registered as "married" to one or more of the recipients, or mandating that a certain percentage of your estate go to someone to whom it has you registered as "married", even if that person has spent his/her life squandering your money while running around with other love interests. People can make their own decisions about these things, and enter into advance contractual agreements if they see fit. A default setting for people who die intestate should be even division among natural or adopted children, followed by even division among siblings if there are no children, followed by other blood relatives.


13 posted on 01/24/2006 4:25:36 AM PST by GovernmentShrinker
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Remind me why "conservatives" are so eager to do this?>>

Because they know that stupid, lunatic libertarianism like this is totally ----ed in the head. No thank you.


14 posted on 01/24/2006 4:37:11 AM PST by Appalled but Not Surprised
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Why on earth would you care if some people practice polygamy, or polyandry, or same sex marriage? Is that going to change your domestic arrangements?>>>

Yes, by decreasing my income to support their perversions, and by teaching my sons that women are nothing but trash to be thrown out when you're done having sex with them.


15 posted on 01/24/2006 4:38:17 AM PST by Appalled but Not Surprised
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To: Fair Go

This is just weird.


16 posted on 01/24/2006 4:50:37 AM PST by DustyMoment (FloriDUH - proud inventors of pregnant/hanging chads and judicide!!)
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To: GovernmentShrinker
My wife is a probate litigator at a major law firm. Her practise is expanding dramatically. The two principal sources of that growth are financial abuse by caregivers and disputes between members of blended or serial families. Both categories are related to changes in the American family.

In the first type of case a nurse, nurse's aide, remote family member, or alleged friend cares for an elderly, mentally weak or even incapacitated person who in past generations would have been cared for in the home of a son or daughter. That caregiver, through the application of undue influence, causes the patient to change his or her testamentary arrangements. Although that type of conduct is now a felony in many states, it seems to be occurring with increasing frequency.

In the second type of case disputes arise between the children of the first marriage, who are often remainder beneficiaries of their father's trust, and his second wife, who is often the income beneficiary of that trust and its trustee. Sometimes, if there are children of the second marriage (which is uncommon) they become involved.

Based on this experience, I think it is safe to say that, legalized or not, multiple unions increase the liklihood of probate and trust disputes. I also believe that legalizing polyamorous relations will pose interesting challenges for the legislatures and courts in community property states and for family courts in all states. Custody, spousal support, and child support are complicated enough when only two adults are involved. Imagine what will happen when courts have to deal with the breakup of a "marriage" that involves three or more adults and multiple children born of various combinations thereof. My wife and I will be long since retired by then, but lawyers somewhere will be making a pile of money from those cases.

17 posted on 01/24/2006 4:59:48 AM PST by p. henry
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To: Fair Go

Someone with more computerin' skills than I should post the pic of the happy trio. The women look like they haven't seen a salad in years, and the guy looks like Dr. Evil.

However, please don't post pics of the "honeymoon" activities. I haven't eaten yet.


18 posted on 01/24/2006 5:02:37 AM PST by exile (Exile - Helen Thomas tried to lure me into her Gingerbread House.)
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To: Fair Go

What ever it takes to keep the little woman happy. (sarc)


19 posted on 01/24/2006 5:06:49 AM PST by wolfcreek
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Mostly, though, it destroys western society. When polygamy is allowed, only the rich and powerful will have women. The rest of us can seek gay marriage I guess.

I believe the moslems have just this problem and it makes them suicidal. The average poor moslem has little chance of marriage and family.

20 posted on 01/24/2006 5:14:13 AM PST by cb
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