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King Kong and Higher Education
H-AMSTUDY ^ | January 19, 2006 | Kelvin Monroe

Posted on 01/29/2006 2:30:08 PM PST by mcvey

Ok, Freepers:

As some of you know I occassionally work with films. This "review" of King Kong was posted to H-AMSTUDY, the main list serve for professionals in American Studies. Many, many academics wrote in agreement. If, after reading this, you want to know what it is like for your sons and daughters in college, go to the following web site and type King Coon into the search engine. You will get maybe two dozen responses which, with one exception, are supportive of this statement.

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From: Kelvin Monroe List Editor: "Seth C. Bruggeman" Editor's Subject: NEWt: King Coon, I mean King Kong Author's Subject: NEWt: King Coon, I mean King Kong Date Written: Thu 19 Jan 14:53:24 EST 2006 Date Posted: Thu, 19 Jan 2006 23:00:41 -0500 It is late in the day for the Bullshit...

King Kong is, in my opinion, a subtle celebration of the Atlantic Slave trade and slavery in Amerikkka.

King King, first off is a metaphor for the ultimate "nigga." It is here that i make a brief reference to the movie _Training Day_. Alonzo remarks "King Kong ain't got nothing on me." He is the ultimate form of threat to the state organism, public enemy no. 1. Alonzo's death in _Training Day_ is nothing short of a lynching, much similar to Kong's death in the original, or I think about the Tracy Macgrady's commercial where he is oversized and he drives to the basket, while there are tanks, jets---a military arsenal "attacking" him, trying to restrain him. I think in someway King Kong is ultimately connected and and the source of white supremacist discourses against black people in genral, black males specifically.

Not to mention that he is supposed to fall in love in a white woman. In the imgaination of most white people, it seems to me that they all really want to believe that every black man secretly desires a white woman.

Further, white women (these same white feminists who are critiquing men of color at every turn about our sexism/masculinism) should be up in shambles as well: in the words of Paul Mooney, hollywood always got white women fallin in love/trying to love/ trying to change freaks and beasts and killers; and then when serial killers kill 20, 30, 40, 50 white women over a period of time, then they wonder what was the influence. You tell people in the movies that it is okay to kill white women and then when cats do that shit for real you wonder what about the problem ....Then in a nod to racist criminal justice system (that just murdered Tookie Williams), you have these white judges/authorities that somehow see themselves in these white killers and then they allow these white killers to pick a personality and call it insanity/crazy all because some white man feels like he can relate to other white men... well, paraphrasing historian Ishakramusa Barashango, the basic nature of the European American remains unchanged......

...In the original 1933 version, King Kong blows on the woman (with his stank-ass gorilla breath), after washing her off in the water...one can see that she is clearly gettin off on this shit....that is nothing more than beastiality.

King Kong resides in Africa, their object is to cage him up and bring him to Amerikkka and make money off of him thru exhibitions--the history in the country is terrible when it comes to exhibiting "Natives" to the rest of the world...Sounds like the St. Louis Exhibition, the Columbia Exhibition and so on and so forth....these are "natives" are people not objects....however, they keep King Coon, I mean King Kong locked up and use him for profit.......Then peep the violent measures the state takes against the ultimate "nigga." This is slavery and nothing more... e'nuff said.

And in the 21st century there is a need to remake this bullshit that was clearly some bullshit in 1933. And on some other shit, the only cannibals that I know of are white--Hannibal Lester and Jeff Dahmer (who eats black people), and the whole time it is white people telling the world that black in Africa are cannibals....when the whole time the psychological projections points to the real cannibals....again, Jeff Dahmer, oh, that movie _Alive_ when the white people start eating each other on the mountain side...

see it is late in the day for the bullshit, i am sick and tired of this racism in the 21st century--blatent, and bold racism. Then White people are quick to wanna say "you black people are so paranoid." but who murdered Africa, the World Health Organization; before 1978 there was no blood with HIV contamination...my point is this: we ain't paranoid, i mean in what other way can King Kong be relevant to humans, especially since King Kongs donot exist...so what is this movie really about? People use crackhead as if it signifies a particular race of people, the term crackhead is racialized---(70% of the crackhead users in Amerikkka are white)...Talk about crackheads, aren't there crackheads in Hollywood. There must be, because only crackheads write this kind of shit and then get other crackheads to produce and direct these crackhead stories/fantasies/imaginations...look at Edward ScissorsHands....that is some crackhead stuff.....

this is just a snap, there might be errors in this post/email.... I just this is worth some conversation on an American Studies listserve.

peace and one,

K. J. Monroe Comparative Ethnic Studies/Rhetoric/Jazz Studies Washington State University

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1 posted on 01/29/2006 2:30:09 PM PST by mcvey
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To: mcvey

Speechless.


2 posted on 01/29/2006 2:34:08 PM PST by SlowBoat407 (The best stuff happens just before the thread snaps.)
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To: mcvey

Talk about psychopathology!


3 posted on 01/29/2006 2:34:28 PM PST by Jeff Chandler (Peace Begins in the Womb)
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To: mcvey

Incoherent, paranoid, and hostile. Typical leftist rant.


4 posted on 01/29/2006 2:36:10 PM PST by Gordongekko909 (I know. Let's cut his WHOLE BODY off.)
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To: mcvey

Leaving aside the blatant paranoid racism of the author, he could benefit from going through a remedial writing course or two.

If this is what passes for writing by college professors, it's no wonder that so many kids are nearly illiterate when they graduate from 'coleje'.


5 posted on 01/29/2006 2:39:10 PM PST by jimtorr
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To: mcvey; mhking

Just Damn


6 posted on 01/29/2006 2:39:26 PM PST by Fiddlstix (Tagline Repair Service. Let us fix those broken Taglines. Inquire within(Presented by TagLines R US))
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Well. Where to begin? The person who wrote this is someone who would see racism in a young white girl with pigtails buying a Snickers bar in a 7-11.

I saw the movie. I liked it better than the original. And I thought King Kong came off as a very positive character. He was gentle and devoted (if not obsessed)

The guy who wrote this crap needs to lay off of the bong, or at least stop drinking the bong water.


7 posted on 01/29/2006 2:40:45 PM PST by rlmorel ("Innocence seldom utters outraged shrieks. Guilt does." Whittaker Chambers)
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Well, there is so much ignorance listed here, my instincts say "Why bother?" One would need to write pages upon pages just to correct it.

Try: "King Kong resides in Africa..."

WRONG!

or:"oh, that movie _Alive_ when the white people start eating each other on the mountain side... "

Why are Latinos considered to be "people of color" when it suits the purposes of idiots like this author, but "white people" when they want that description to fit them??

As I said, "Why bother", so that's as far as I will go...


8 posted on 01/29/2006 2:41:00 PM PST by LRS
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I read the same basic critique of the original King Kong back in the 70's. It's been a very popular interpretation among the arts and croissant crowd for years, although they didn't used to curse in their reviews nearly as much.


9 posted on 01/29/2006 2:43:37 PM PST by Richard Kimball (Look, Daddy! Teacher says every time a Kennedy talks, a Republican gets a house seat!)
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"...Then White people are quick to wanna say "you black people are so paranoid..."

Let me guess. This person probably got an "A" on this "essay".

You hit the nail right on the head. I was having a discussion with my sister-in-law, whose son goes to UMass Amherst. She told me he made Dean's List.

Normally, my first thought would be "That's great!", but instead, my first thought was, "What the hell does making Dean's List mean at a place like UMass Amherst?" My nephew is a good kid, and smart too, so I don't have much doubt he would make Dean's List no matter where he went to school or what era he studied in. I was disappointed that was the first thought into my head. And an accurate concern it is, too.

10 posted on 01/29/2006 2:48:15 PM PST by rlmorel ("Innocence seldom utters outraged shrieks. Guilt does." Whittaker Chambers)
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If you attended the conferences I attend, you would be even more worried. Not every one SOUNDS like this, but almost all of them MEAN what this guy posted. For instance, this is a post from FSU--and I know many FREEPERS are in Florida. Date: Fri 20 Jan 16:37:17 EST 2006 From: Peggy Wright-Cleveland I, too, was amazed and concerned over the racism in King Kong. ?The portrayal of the primitive peoples was beyond appalling and eventually nonsensical. It seems a dire indictment of America that we have made this same movie three times; seventy years worth of "not getting it." My more generous take on the movie is that it is an indictment against capitalism. This new version spends upwards of 60 minutes developing the ego and capital that drove the director to take such a risk. Still, I refuse to believe that the only solution for Africans/Natives/Kongs/anything-other-than-white-men in America is destruction. I thought the sexual connection between Kong and the girl was downplayed in this movie. Does anyone agree? And, I think the female is portrayed as stronger. Still, she can defeat/charm a giant gorilla but can't prevent regular men from kidnapping him? Oh, come on... Peggy Wright-Cleveland FSU


11 posted on 01/29/2006 2:53:48 PM PST by mcvey
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To: Richard Kimball
"...although they didn't used to curse in their reviews nearly as much..."

Isn't THAT the truth. But it considered chic in many circles to speak as if you came from "The Hood". If you are a black person, and you speak like Thomas Sowell instead of someone like the aptly named "Ludacris", you better prepare yourself for a character assasination from people who look like you.

12 posted on 01/29/2006 2:54:22 PM PST by rlmorel ("Innocence seldom utters outraged shrieks. Guilt does." Whittaker Chambers)
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By the way, as per your nephew, he can get a sane education even at UMASS--but he MUST stay our of the liberal arts majors and go toward things where people actually have to do counting.

Avoid the social sciences, too, which are rank with dishonest and cooked data--most of which is used for ideological purposes.


McVey


13 posted on 01/29/2006 2:56:07 PM PST by mcvey
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To: mcvey

?????????????????


14 posted on 01/29/2006 2:57:05 PM PST by Old Professer (Fix the problem, not the blame!)
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...In the original 1933 version, King Kong blows on the woman (with his stank-ass gorilla breath), after washing her off in the water

This never happens in the film.

15 posted on 01/29/2006 2:59:44 PM PST by Rocko (Liberals -- filled with a compassion you always hear about, but never witness.)
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the only cannibals that I know of are white--Hannibal Lester and Jeff Dahmer

He gets his historical (hysterical) info from movies. And academics lauded this racist numbskull.......

16 posted on 01/29/2006 3:03:55 PM PST by Brett66 (Where government advances – and it advances relentlessly – freedom is imperiled -Janice Rogers Brown)
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Not to be picky, but someone's got their big monkeys mixed up. Mighty Joe Young came from Africa, not King Kong.


17 posted on 01/29/2006 3:07:34 PM PST by Graymatter
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This never happens in the film.

It's in the 1976 Jessica Lange version...

18 posted on 01/29/2006 3:07:44 PM PST by Swordmaker (Beware of Geeks bearing GIFs.)
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To: mcvey
Uh...the court didn't kill Tookie, he did that when he got caught after committing multiple murders of non black people. Asians, IIRC. Dahmer didn't eat only black boys, but Asian and white boys as well. The only boy ever to escape him was Asian. Dahmer had tried to lobotomize him. He was confused and had lost the power of speech. A helpful neighbor led the boy back into Dahmer's apartment.

I give up. There are just too many inconsistancies in this rant to bother correcting. The only thing I agree with is that King Kong SUCKED as a movie EVERY TIME it was made.

19 posted on 01/29/2006 3:08:59 PM PST by cake_crumb (Leftist Credo: One Wing to Rule them All and to the Darkside Bind them)
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To: Rocko

His sudden transition into a rant on Training Day (which was an awesome movie, by the way) was hillarious. I don't know how you could possibly describe Alonzo's death as a "lynhcing," or even racially motivated. Hell, the only person in Training Day who talks about Alonzo's race is Alonzo. Nobody else seems to care what color he is.


20 posted on 01/29/2006 3:09:17 PM PST by Gordongekko909 (I know. Let's cut his WHOLE BODY off.)
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