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The 'gay agenda' doesn't mention you
illinois Daily Vidette ^ | 2/1/06 | Kellie Powell

Posted on 01/31/2006 8:23:18 PM PST by presidio9

Many of you have heard conservative traditionalists rant about "The Gay Agenda." But no one really knows what that agenda is. Well, I've discovered a copy, and I will summarize it for you:

8am - Protein shake

9am - Work out at the gym

10am - Rape straight men, give pornography to children, bulldoze all churches and destroy the sanctity of marriage (or what's left of it after Fox's "Married By America.")

Hey, wait a minute...

Some of the most important people in my life are gay men and lesbian women. And I can assure you, being gay does not mean you are sick enough to want to force or coerce someone into having sex with you. Being gay doesn't make you a pedophile or a pervert. (There are plenty of straight rapists and molesters.) Being gay doesn't automatically make you immoral, an atheist or a drug addict. Being gay doesn't mean you're HIV positive, dangerous, promiscuous or any different from any other human person. Being gay is something that a person is, but it is not who a person is, and it has no more effect on the quality of your character than your shoe size.

So why do people fear, hate and persecute homosexuals? Bigots typically give one of two reasons: 1.) The Bible says it's wrong. 2.) They find it "gross."

Now, I like God, and I like Jesus. But I think some of their followers are a few beads short of a rosary. I'm down with the loving thy neighbor and the doing unto others. But I think God and Jesus are about sick to death of people using their names to persecute each other. From the Spanish Inquisition to the KKK, every nutbag with a weapon and a chip on his shoulder has claimed they were acting out God's will.

I understand that the Bible is a cornerstone of Christianity, and it's important to take this artifact seriously. But in addition to the Word of God, it contains the biases of the men who wrote it. Biases regarding vegetarianism, men with long hair and believing the sun revolved around the Earth, just to name a few. A lot of people have read the same document and interpreted it in very different ways. And believing that your way is right just because you say so... that's not faith. That's arrogance.

The Nazis chose a symbol that had once represented peace. That didn't make them a peaceful group of people. Conservatives can use the name of Jesus and the sign of the cross, but it doesn't mean that their hate-mongering has anything to do with being Christians.

And now, the even sillier reason to hate gay people: 'cause you think gay sex is unappealing. You can call it "gross," "disgusting" or just plain "icky," but the fact is, these are also adjectives that have been used to condemn heterosexual intercourse.

Think back to being a child, to the first time someone told you what sex was. If you were anything like me at age five, you thought, "Why would anyone want to do THAT? I'm never going to! Ewwwww!"

Sex is icky. In the abstract, sex is like sticking your finger up someone's nose. It's roughly equivalent to chewing up some Cheetos, spitting into a cup, swapping cups with someone and eating each other's chewed-up orange gunk. The only difference is, there's no biological imperative to stick your finger up someone's nose or eat someone else's chewed-up Cheetos.

Take a look around. Is there a gay man on your street corner, asking you, "Hey... wanna turn gay? All the cool kids are doing it!"

Now, listen up straight men - it's time to get over yourselves. You are not so devastatingly attractive that setting foot in the Bistro is going to get you gang-raped. If a gay guy flirts with you, the rational thing to do is be flattered and politely decline. Realize that a gay man probably finds you attractive for the same qualities that draw the attention of straight females. So act the way you would if a girl hit on you, but you weren't attracted to her. You don't see women going postal every time a guy winks at us, and we're way more likelier to be raped than you are.

The only reason you could have to be afraid of a gay man kissing, touching, or talking to you is if you're afraid you might like it. And whether it's now, or in thirty years when you murder your neighbor like the military dad in "American Beauty," you will have to deal with your sexual confusion eventually.

So what do "the gays" want? Like most people, gay and lesbian people want to be treated like human beings and citizens of this country. They want the things we all want: Families. Careers. Safety. Love.

And if you think you're qualified to tell them they don't deserve these things... then I think there's a deity out there who's awfully disappointed in you.


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To: presidio9

Uhhhhh.....babe.....what paper is it you write for again? The Daily Bidet?


141 posted on 02/01/2006 10:45:15 AM PST by NRA1995 (GOOOOOOO STEELERS!!!)
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To: Antoninus
You're preaching to the choir, man. Our civilization has been on the decline since the 1930s at least--concurrent with the rise of communism and the subsequent infiltration of that pernicious ideology into every single Western institution.

Communist ideology is only a subset of egalitarian ideology which got a nice jumpstart with the French Revolution. Of course egalitarianism is just of one of many human-centered ideologies that make up the canon of political philosophies that have their origins in the Rennaisance from Machiavelli and flowed through the Age of Enlightenment with Voltaire and Rousseau. So perhaps it runs even deeper than the last century and may last longer than you suspect. Sorry if I was preaching to the choir.

142 posted on 02/01/2006 10:45:54 AM PST by TradicalRC (No longer to the right of the Pope...)
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To: presidio9

Got to "Nazis" and bailed.


143 posted on 02/01/2006 10:47:09 AM PST by toddlintown (Lennon takes six bullets to the chest, Yoko is standing right next to him and not one f'ing bullet?)
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To: kcvl

Majors in "Theatre." Figures.


144 posted on 02/01/2006 10:55:11 AM PST by toddlintown (Lennon takes six bullets to the chest, Yoko is standing right next to him and not one f'ing bullet?)
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To: weegee
The Homosexual Agenda is the battering ram for the whole Sex Positive Agenda.

What a choice of words! Now I have this image of gay Orcs chanting "Grond! Grond! Grond! Grond!"


145 posted on 02/01/2006 10:57:34 AM PST by NRA1995 (GOOOOOOO STEELERS!!!)
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To: SmithL

Morford has gotten boring. Time for him to take another re-hab "sabbatical."


146 posted on 02/01/2006 10:57:48 AM PST by presidio9 ("Bird Flu" is the new Y2K virus -only without the handy deadline.)
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To: TradicalRC
The fact that political terms like homophobia can hide behind a scientific, rationalist veneer of psychology and enters the national vocabulary

I triple-majored in undergrad. One of those majors was Psych. Psychology is not "scientific," no matter how hard it tries to be.

147 posted on 02/01/2006 11:01:10 AM PST by presidio9 ("Bird Flu" is the new Y2K virus -only without the handy deadline.)
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To: John O

You obviously don't work in a big city. Give a crackhead a squeegee, and it's like a licence to harass anyone who stops for red lights.


148 posted on 02/01/2006 11:03:21 AM PST by presidio9 ("Bird Flu" is the new Y2K virus -only without the handy deadline.)
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To: TradicalRC; SmithL

Walk away, and forget what you saw. Trust me on this one.


149 posted on 02/01/2006 11:04:36 AM PST by presidio9 ("Bird Flu" is the new Y2K virus -only without the handy deadline.)
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To: NobleEagle2004
I Have the same Last name as #4.Its very rare,I wonder if I am Related?

I'm not sure. Do you have a sudden urge to stick your finger up someone else's nose?

150 posted on 02/01/2006 11:06:40 AM PST by presidio9 ("Bird Flu" is the new Y2K virus -only without the handy deadline.)
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To: presidio9

If all gays were like Morford, I really would hate them.


151 posted on 02/01/2006 11:27:25 AM PST by Democratshavenobrains
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To: Antoninus

Nero invented "gay marriage".

You mean this?:

'Same-sex "marriage" was the invention of the Emperor Nero in the first-century A.D. In a comparatively long reign among the first-century Caesars (A.D. 54-68), he began as a talented and generous though youthful friend of the people, but degenerated in a mere 14 years to become the prototype of Lord Acton's axiom: Power corrupts and absolute power corrupts absolutely. Paranoid in his last years, Nero lived in constant fear of assassination as he in turn ordered the assassinations of members of the Senate and nobility, or sent orders to others to commit suicide. Suetonius, a second-century Roman historian, began "to list his follies and crimes," which included at least three same-sex "marriages." Nero's first same-sex "marriage" was preceded by a transgendering operation on his intended bride that was thought to be successful:

Having trued to turn the boy Sporus into a girl by castration, he went through a wedding ceremony with him — dowry, bridal veil and all — which the whole Court attended; then brought him home, and treated him as a wife. He dressed Sporus in the fine clothes normally worn by an Empress and took him in his own litter not only to every Greek assize and fair, but actually through the Street of Images at Rome, kissing him amorously now and then.

Sullivan's assumption that "gay marriage" would require its partners "to live up to the standards of fidelity, responsibility and commitment never before asked of them" is certainly not true in the case of Nero. His infatuation with Sporus did not prevent him from pursuing an incestuous love with his mother, Agrippina; when Court politics moved to block him, he engaged a mistress who looked like his mother, but visual evidence suggested to the onlookers that he and Agrippina had intercourse "every time they rode in the same litter — the state of his clothes when he emerged proved it." Not even his mother was able to satisfy his passion for long; shortly after his "marriage" to Sporus, he "married" a freedman, Doryphyrus, but this time Nero played the bride, "and on the wedding night he imitated the screams and moans of a girl being deflowered." In time, Nero arranged the murders of his mother and his aunt, Domitia Lepida.'

Good grief.


152 posted on 02/01/2006 11:44:39 AM PST by reagandemocrat
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To: presidio9
Some of the most important people in my life are gay men and lesbian women. And I can assure you, being gay does not mean you are sick enough to want to force or coerce someone into having sex with you.

The law of unintended consequences clicks in on this one. There are reasons to discourage gay sex even knowing gay men are predators at about the same rate as straight men. Research has shown that a man who "gets off" looking at tires (yep, the kind put on a car) will start making an erotic connection. And who among us hasn't heard a straight man comment on how he "wished" he could be gay for the wild, no-holds-barred sex of the gay world. Take away the taboos and many men who sit on the hetro side, holding up families and a sane society will give in -- and the gay lifestyle, on a large scale, is destructive. Watch and see - with Hollywood doing the free ads for the lifestyle we all might get to live with the fallout.

Remember when the libs said marriage didn't matter? And that a happy divorce was better than an unhappy marriage? And that women had to "find" themselves? Lots of walking wounded children are coming of age as the byproduct of that horrible idea. Taboos exist for reasons.... Best to take some things slow.

153 posted on 02/01/2006 11:55:51 AM PST by GOPJ (Massachusetts: where fat drunks are elected, and reelected, and reelected and reelected and ree)
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To: presidio9
You obviously don't work in a big city.

I live in a town of about 20K and work way out in the boonies (I got lost three times on my first day to work here. They had cows out here! How could anyplace civilized have cows!? I wised up fast though. Civilization is here, barbarism is in the cities)

I escaped from DC 18 years ago and seldom if ever go back. (mostly when the family wants a tour guide)

154 posted on 02/01/2006 12:41:24 PM PST by John O (God Save America (Please))
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To: presidio9

What gays want is total acceptance of their lifestyle. If my beliefs tell me that being gay is immoral and wrong, then what does that make the gays who try to MAKE me accept them? Seems to me that makes them intolerant, by their own definition of the term.


155 posted on 02/01/2006 12:48:52 PM PST by oneofmany ("A society that refuses to speak the language of morality is more fearful than free." -Carter)
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To: presidio9
8am - Protein shake

"Heh heh heh"


156 posted on 02/01/2006 12:55:44 PM PST by Hemingway's Ghost (Spirit of '75)
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To: rjp2005
"If a gay guy flirts with you, the rational thing to do is be flattered and politely decline."

WRONG! I was once at a convention, and got a phone call from another convention-goer. It was a homosexual proposition. It scared the daylights out of me. Some queer guy was out there stalking me, and I had no idea who it was.

157 posted on 02/01/2006 12:57:26 PM PST by JoeFromSidney (My book is out. Read excerpts at www.thejusticecooperative.com)
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To: kjenerette

...reading.


158 posted on 02/01/2006 2:55:22 PM PST by Van Jenerette (Our Republic...If We Can Keep It!)
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To: NRA1995

The Daily Vidiot.


159 posted on 02/01/2006 5:46:38 PM PST by weegee (Happy Holidays! Tis the season of MLK, Chinese New Year, Tet, Valentine's, Presidents...)
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To: Hemingway's Ghost; presidio9

Rod Stewart swars that the rumor is false about him drinking a 1 gallon protein shake before a show and having to cancel a concert.


160 posted on 02/01/2006 5:51:03 PM PST by weegee (Happy Holidays! Tis the season of MLK, Chinese New Year, Tet, Valentine's, Presidents...)
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