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New York City Smokers are in trouble: WEB BUYERS $MOKED OUT
yahoonews.com ^ | Feb 3, 2006

Posted on 02/04/2006 3:38:24 AM PST by SheLion

Price-conscious smokers who thought they landed fantastic bargains on the Internet have been hit by the city with bills totaling nearly $1.4 million, officials said yesterday.

A crackdown on tax-free cigarette sales on the Web hauled in $695,479 from 2,156 puffers out of the $1,354,880 demanded in the first round of bills sent out to 3,780 New York City residents through May.

A second round in August took in another $169,990 out of $507,000 due.

Now, officials say, they're ready to get really serious and impose a $100-a-carton penalty - plus the $1.50-a-pack tax.

"We want voluntary compliance," said Finance Department spokesman Sam Miller. "Now that we've sent out three notices, it's not so voluntary anymore."



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Is it any WONDER that NYC smokers go ELSEWHERE???!!!

Cigarettes Up to $7 a Pack With New Tax

New York - 1 July 2002

RINO Mayor Bloomberg said: "If it were totally up to me, I would raise the cigarette tax so high the revenues from it would go to zero," said the mayor, who has said he hopes that the higher taxes will persuade smokers to quit and will prevent children from becoming smokers.

article here

1 posted on 02/04/2006 3:38:32 AM PST by SheLion
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To: The Foolkiller; Just another Joe; Madame Dufarge; Cantiloper; metesky; kattracks; Judith Anne; ...

Old Mikey can't STAND the loss of revenue since he raised the damn taxes! It's the American Way to Shop Cheap. Just what did he expect??? The putz!


2 posted on 02/04/2006 3:39:44 AM PST by SheLion (Trying to make a life in the BLUE state of Maine!)
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To: All

3 posted on 02/04/2006 3:42:59 AM PST by SheLion (Trying to make a life in the BLUE state of Maine!)
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To: SheLion

How can the City collect taxes on Internet Sales?


4 posted on 02/04/2006 3:45:06 AM PST by janetjanet998
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To: janetjanet998

you hit the cupie doll on the head. they use smokers, a vilified group as the test case. the rest of shoppers who use the internet are next, after all, its only fair right?
precedent, precedent, precedent.


5 posted on 02/04/2006 3:50:24 AM PST by son of caesar
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To: janetjanet998; SheLion

My brother works on the lake freighters. He started getting his smokes off the Internet after the taxes went sky-high. Did it for several years. The state of Michigan got him this year for over 2,000 bucks. He finally listened to me, and both he and his wife now roll their own, but it was an expensive way of convincing him.


6 posted on 02/04/2006 3:51:00 AM PST by The Foolkiller (It is not enough today for the deviant to be normalized. The normal must be found to be deviant.)
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To: janetjanet998

That's next. You know you are supposed to pay taxes on all internet purchases to your state and city governments.

Wait until everybody gets their bill.


7 posted on 02/04/2006 3:54:24 AM PST by listenhillary ("Mainstream media" is creating it's own reality~everything sucks)
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To: SheLion

How in hell does anyone know what you buy on the Internet? That's the real scary part.


8 posted on 02/04/2006 3:57:57 AM PST by NoControllingLegalAuthority
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To: SheLion

Growing tobacco is perfectly legal and relatively simple. The tobacco-nazis should be taught again the lesson of Prohibition. You cannot control that which can be easily made by the average person.


9 posted on 02/04/2006 3:59:51 AM PST by xzins (Retired Army Chaplain and Proud of It!)
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To: janetjanet998
How can the City collect taxes on Internet Sales?

I guess the lawmakers are using the RICO act.  There is another one and I get them mixed up.

Illinois is hitting their smokers hard on this issue.  One gal is afraid she will go to jail because she can't afford to pay.  And the longer she doesn pay, the more "interest" the puke bag state adds on.

Nice, eh?

10 posted on 02/04/2006 4:02:36 AM PST by SheLion (Trying to make a life in the BLUE state of Maine!)
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To: The Foolkiller
My brother works on the lake freighters. He started getting his smokes off the Internet after the taxes went sky-high. Did it for several years. The state of Michigan got him this year for over 2,000 bucks. He finally listened to me, and both he and his wife now roll their own, but it was an expensive way of convincing him.

OMG!!

11 posted on 02/04/2006 4:03:42 AM PST by SheLion (Trying to make a life in the BLUE state of Maine!)
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To: NoControllingLegalAuthority
How in hell does anyone know what you buy on the Internet? That's the real scary part.

Some of the online vendors folded and gave their customer list to the FEDS.

12 posted on 02/04/2006 4:04:46 AM PST by SheLion (Trying to make a life in the BLUE state of Maine!)
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To: NoControllingLegalAuthority
How in hell does anyone know what you buy on the Internet? That's the real scary part.

Some of the online vendors folded and gave their customer list to the FEDS.

13 posted on 02/04/2006 4:04:46 AM PST by SheLion (Trying to make a life in the BLUE state of Maine!)
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To: xzins; All
Well, here is one alternative:

Can't stand the high taxes?

Afraid to order off of the Internet?

Then start rolling your own!!! I find everything but the machine downtown at the local Smoke Shop.  Also, Rite Aid and grocery stores also sell the bags of tobacco and the filtered tubes.

I roll out a beautiful carton for a little under $8 dollars.  Premiums in my state are now up to $45-$50 a carton.  Can you imagine the money I have saved over the past 4 years since I now roll my own?  It's mind boggling.

under $50.00

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14 posted on 02/04/2006 4:05:49 AM PST by SheLion (Trying to make a life in the BLUE state of Maine!)
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To: SheLion

Sounds like the good people of New York will have to have out of state friends buy them their smokes and then ship it to them.


15 posted on 02/04/2006 4:05:56 AM PST by Always Right
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To: janetjanet998
How can the City collect taxes on Internet Sales?

Illinois has something called a use tax. If you buy your smokes some place else, then your suppose to pay the tax. Illinois also has a use tax for consumer goods. New York City obviously has something similar.

16 posted on 02/04/2006 4:06:01 AM PST by EVO X
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17 posted on 02/04/2006 4:11:17 AM PST by freepatriot32 (Holding you head high & voting Libertarian is better then holding your nose and voting republican)
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Buyers Off The Hook on Online Cigarette Taxes (WI)

07/22/2005-Gov.Jim Doyle ordered the state Department of Revenue late Thursday to end an effort to collect back taxes and penalties from thousands of Wisconsin residents who bought cigarettes over the Internet.

Doyle's action came hours after he said he was troubled by the plan. The department in the last month had sent 1,000 letters ordering taxpayers to compute and pay their delinquent taxes for online cigarette purchases from September 1999 to the present. The letters startled many taxpayers who inundated the department with concerns over how they would pay.

UPS agrees to end cigarette deliveries to individuals

10/25/2005-ALBANY, N.Y. - The world's largest shipping carrier, UPS Inc., will stop delivering cigarettes to individuals in the United States under an agreement announced Monday with state Attorney General Eliot Spitzer.

The agreement is the latest in federal and state efforts to combat the sale of under-taxed cigarette and to fight underage smoking. Most under-taxed or untaxed cigarettes are sold by Indian tribes, where the taxation of sales to non-Indians is

18 posted on 02/04/2006 4:15:06 AM PST by SheLion (Trying to make a life in the BLUE state of Maine!)
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To: SheLion
The crime families of New York and New Jersey are making a kiling. This latest crackdown by tax collectors is only going to boost business even more.

I wouldn't be to surprised if some of the feathers were lining some nests at city hall.
19 posted on 02/04/2006 4:17:51 AM PST by HEY4QDEMS (Learn from the past, don't live in it.)
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