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A TIPPING POINT ON ISLAM'S REPUTATION
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Posted on 02/09/2006 11:23:57 AM PST by Actuality

A TIPPING POINT ON ISLAM'S REPUTATION

"I stand by my reaction of the past couple days. But I’ve also come to a depressing conclusion. A significant chunk of the American public, including a number of prominent thinkers on the right, have concluded that the problem with Islam… is Islam."

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Well, in order to understand this phenomenon of 'not hearing moderate Islam', you might want to take for example that group 'CAIR' that plays as "moderate Muslims voice in America", that we all know how "moderate" exactly they are, starting from their support for the Hamas butchers or their call for 'Islam is not in America to be equal to other religions, but to DOMINATE over others.'

More, at:
Anti-CAIR * Defending America from The Council on American-Islamic Relations http://www.anti-cair-net.org/

Meaning that when CAIR is now issuing a "condemnation of the violence" over the cartoon bloody Jihad:
A.) We do not "hear" them.
B.) Their words are accepted by their masses as "propaganda to the west", because "CAIR" and the like are 'just like us' would the radical violent or "normal" violent Muslim say.
C.) They have managed to create a notion in many chunks of American society -- left or right-- that maybe 'there is no such a thing as a real moderate Muslim'.

Weather it's CAIR or it's that typical 'moderate' Muslim that condemns Islamic Jihad butchery with the added "but, but" --in as much as Americans are so peace loving and tolerant people-- have been proving that the problem is in their mainstream, or how many normal Americans have put it: "The problem with Islam is Islam".

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1 posted on 02/09/2006 11:24:02 AM PST by Actuality
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To: Actuality

“Islam isn't in America to be equal to any other faith but to become dominant. The Koran, the Muslim book of scripture, should be the highest authority in America, and Islam the only accepted religion on Earth.”

This was the sentiment of Omar M. Ahmad, the Chairman of the Board of the Council on American-Islamic Relations or CAIR, as told at an Islamic conference held in Freemont, California, in July of 1998.


2 posted on 02/09/2006 11:28:00 AM PST by Beckwith (The liberal press has picked sides ... and they have sided with the Islamofascists)
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To: Beckwith


Which will only happen if they're able to pry the gun from my cold dead fingers.


3 posted on 02/09/2006 11:30:21 AM PST by in hoc signo vinces ("Houston, TX...a waiting quagmire for jihadis. American gals are worth fighting for!")
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To: Beckwith
Their reputation is shredded and that's why some are now speaking out against the rioters.

TOO LITTLE TOO LATE

4 posted on 02/09/2006 11:35:37 AM PST by OldFriend (The Dems enABLEd DANGER and 3,000 Americans died.)
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To: Actuality
Dominating at Ground Zero the other day.
5 posted on 02/09/2006 11:36:03 AM PST by Eastbound
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To: Actuality
"The problem with Islam is Islam".

For years I've thought the problem with Islam is the Koran, but I'll go with Islam as just another of its many bad influences.

That Islam is fundamentally Satanic is also a bit of a problem.

6 posted on 02/09/2006 11:37:22 AM PST by angkor
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To: Eastbound

Islams reputation? Seems they soiled that themselves for over the last 1000 years.

Quick.. name something of Value Islamic society has given civilization???....Ah....got you!


7 posted on 02/09/2006 11:38:32 AM PST by samadams2000 (Remember our Founding Fathers were REAL men- Unlike today's Rinos)
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To: Actuality
Fred Barnes statement nails it:

"It tells us a lot it tells us our enemy is not just al-Qaeda. That there's Muslims all over the world are certainly enemies of western civilization. Look at what the showing of these cartoons which I originally thought was a mistake. They shouldn't have run them. Now I think we've learned a lot from this. We see Muslims contempt for democracy, for freedom of speech, for freedom of the press and particularly for freedom of religion…"

I'm hoping that other Westerners are taking notice and see this as a learning experience of who our enemy is. It's showing the insanity that these people are capable of being driven to by their immans. Their religion is a death cult!
8 posted on 02/09/2006 11:39:28 AM PST by rochester_veteran (born and raised in rachacha!)
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To: in hoc signo vinces
"Which will only happen if they're able to pry the gun from my cold dead fingers."

They've spread themselves all over the earth, and have made political inroads in many Western nations, all without firing a shot. I do believe in your tagline, "in this sign you (Christians) will conquer". But Christians have fallen asleep for far too long; I hope the nap is over now.

9 posted on 02/09/2006 11:44:05 AM PST by TheCrusader ("The frenzy of the mohammedans has devastated the Churches of God" Pope Urban II ~ 1097A.D.)
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To: samadams2000
"Quick.. name something of Value Islamic society has given civilization???....Ah....got you!"

Not so! Sharper knives.

10 posted on 02/09/2006 11:55:37 AM PST by Eastbound
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To: angkor

"That Islam is fundamentally Satanic"

I can't say that Islam is satanic, but big parts of it seem to be backwards and intolerant. And this is what puts Islam at odds with the rest of the World.


11 posted on 02/09/2006 11:56:18 AM PST by popdonnelly
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To: angkor

"That Islam is fundamentally Satanic"

I can't say that Islam is satanic, but big parts of it seem to be backwards and intolerant. And this is what puts Islam at odds with the rest of the World.


12 posted on 02/09/2006 11:57:05 AM PST by popdonnelly
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To: Actuality
And frankly, I’m not all that wowed with the reaction of moderate Muslims. I’m not sure how much further I want to stick my neck out defending a faith community that won’t loudly and firmly police or rebuke its own members.

Describes my position exactly. At this point I think it's too late for "moderate" Moslems to take back their religion from the violent and militant.

I used to think that the moderates had the numbers and the radicals had the money - I can now only vouch for the latter, which they certainly do. This whole affair is neither spontaneous nor grass-roots, and just as worrisome as the ability of the senior doctors of Islam to proliferate this violence is their will to do so. Osama bin Laden couldn't force the mass of Moslems to declare war on the West but these men can. And the confrontation will take place in Europe under the ancient terms of submit or fight. This is madness.

13 posted on 02/09/2006 11:59:58 AM PST by Billthedrill
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To: Actuality
Radical Islam is an insane murder cult; moderate Islam is its Trojan Horse in the West.
14 posted on 02/09/2006 12:03:07 PM PST by Travis McGee (--- www.EnemiesForeignAndDomestic.com ---)
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To: Actuality

I think it's time for another crusade....these fanatic barbarians need to be stopped...DEAD


15 posted on 02/09/2006 12:03:48 PM PST by democratsaremyenemy
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To: in hoc signo vinces

Yours and mine, both.


16 posted on 02/09/2006 12:05:37 PM PST by Malacoda (The Posting Police annoy me)
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To: Actuality
there's only one religion in the world where people assume that people coming out of services on Friday afternoon are going to riot and kill, where people associate religious celebrations with violence.

My b-i-l says much the same thing. When your Christian neighbors go away on retreat, you don't have to worry that their 'getting religion' might be a threat to you; not so, possibly, with your Muslim neighbors.

17 posted on 02/09/2006 12:36:18 PM PST by SuziQ
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To: Travis McGee; Actuality; in hoc signo vinces
"Radical Islam is an insane murder cult; moderate Islam is its Trojan Horse in the West."

Time to put the 'feedbag' on that horse's head.

Did you see this link? Extremists 'dominating' at Ground Zero the other day.

Unbelievable.


18 posted on 02/09/2006 12:47:17 PM PST by Eastbound
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To: Eastbound


Two words; "internment camps." or one word "deportation"


19 posted on 02/09/2006 1:10:15 PM PST by in hoc signo vinces ("Houston, TX...a waiting quagmire for jihadis. American gals are worth fighting for!")
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To: Travis McGee

It has been said that the primary difference between a radical muslim and a moderate muslim is that the radical aready has his detonator. Seems to be about right.


20 posted on 02/09/2006 1:16:20 PM PST by newcthem (Use Allah urinal cakes!)
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