[HereInTheHeartland]

"seminars make people gay? Or was his son pretty much on the way to gay anyway?"

Well it is a choice. People that are weak can make bad choices with bad peer pressure.

[Noumenon]

There's a South Park episode in here somewhere

[HighlyOpinionated]

Well it (homosexuality) is a choice. People that are weak can make bad choices with bad peer pressure.

THANK YOU! I have been trying to get this across to anyone who will listen. Gender preference is a choice. Almost every normal young child falls "in love" with someone of the same gender -- not sexual love, of course, but the idol worship of the young. A boy wants to be like a baseball star. A girl wants to be like a ballerina. A boy wants to be like a rodeo rider. A girl wants to be like a singer. That does not 'make' either a homosexual. It makes them 'normal' and it's a part of growing up. BUT you get those same children within eye-shot of practicing homosexuals/lesbians and they tell the child that the 'hero/heroine worship' is 'sexual' and that means that they are homosexuals.

NOT.

And the sad fact is that many psychiatrists and psychologists have a "homo-agenda" and also reinforce the "well if you weren't a homosexual you wouldn't feel 'love' for ___________ (fill in same gender hero/heroine)."

You don't want to get me started!

[sangrila]

I've been attracted to beautiful women as long as can remember. Nothing anyone ever said could change that. I cannot fathom that any heterosexual is going to be peer pressured into being gay. It is ridiculous. You are either gay or you aren't. The suggestion that gays choose to be gay implies that people also choose to become hetero sexual. I firmly believe there is a gay gene or gay genes that make these people this way, because they seem to have certain characteristics, i.e. gay men are usually very feminine in appearance and demeanor while lesbians are very masculine. I also saw gay dogs before, which suggests gayness is some kind of biological oddity that appears occasionally.

[sangrila]

With all that said I don't really approve of NC taxpayers paying for a seminar called "the New Gay Teenager." I also don't want people to come at me like I am a supporter of the gay agenda. My only point was that this kid was gay long before he went to class, and that gays are basically born gay.

[Aquinasfan]

From an investigation into a suicide at Bill Clinton's Arkansas Governors School (1992)

Testimony #3:

Q: Did she call you while she was at the Governor's School. A: Yes. We talked while she was at the Governor's School. She would call. We were very close to her. We started working with Fran because of her suicidal tendencies when she was in the 10th or 11th grade. My wife first found out she had suicidal tendencies. She became very close to us. She talked to us off and on mostly as a result of our initiation of us contacting her during the AGS. It's been so long ago now that I forget a lot of it.

There was a lot of existentialism offered to them. I remember one of the debates that really got her into an uproar was whether or not homosexuality was right. Things that are contrary to Judeo Christian morals & values. Basically being thrown up as an alternative lifestyle type of thing. And basically whether anyone could judge right or wrong. That's basically what I remember from our conversation.

After it was over, most of our conversation took place about what she was exposed to at Governor's School. Just trying to balance she had been exposed to at the Governor's School.

Q: How much difference did you see in her?

A: The big difference that I saw was that she questioned her faith a awful lot after Governor's School. It was almost as if the experience of the Governor's School destroyed her faith.

It took her several years after that to work through and I'm not sure she ever got back to the point to where she was before Governor's School.