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Football And Pizza Point To US Staying For Long Haul (Iraq)
The Telegraph (UK) ^ | 2-11-2006 | Oliver Poole

Posted on 02/10/2006 5:14:17 PM PST by blam

Football and pizza point to US staying for long haul

By Oliver Poole at al-Asad airbase
(Filed: 11/02/2006)

The airbase at al-Asad is the biggest marine camp in western Anbar province. It is in the midst of the most rebellious region in Iraq, where thousands of insurgents have been killed in a series of operations over the past year.

But get "inside the wire" and this stretch of desert increasingly resembles a slice of US suburbia rather than the front line in a war zone.

Marines based in Iraq find time to watch the Super Bowl

Its restaurants include a Subway and a fast food pizza shop. There is a coffee shop, football pitch and even a swimming pool.

A cinema shows the latest films while the camp's main recreational centre offers special dance nights - hip hop on Friday, salsa on Saturday and country and western on Sunday.

There is even a Hertz car rental providing saloons with bullet-proof windows for those wanting to cross the base in something more comfortable than a military Humvee.

For as the news from Washington focuses on troop withdrawals, the US military is beginning to implement at immense cost the next stage in its policy for Iraq. And it is one likely to disappoint those hoping for a quick exit of all foreign troops.

Last summer reports began to emerge that plans had been drawn up to create four "super-bases", giant camps that would house tens of thousands of US soldiers similar to other sprawling military facilities around the world.

The intention was for the newly trained and equipped Iraqi army to gradually take over the majority of combat operations, allowing a proportion of the 138,000 US troops to depart. Those remaining would provide back-up from their new centres of operation when requested.

That hand-over has already begun with a dozen smaller bases evacuated in recent weeks. In total 100 are scheduled to be transferred to the Iraqi government this year.

Although no official confirmation will be given of where super-bases will be located, at al-Asad there is every impression that one is in the process of being created.

The guidelines under which reporters are allowed to visit military facilities prohibit any mention of their location, size or number of troops.

But it breaks no rules to say this is a place so extensive it has two bus routes inside and the sight of workers constructing new billets for more troops is common.

Last month, red "Stop" signs - the ubiquitous feature of American street furniture - went up at all road junctions.

Senior members of the governing Shia parties have complained that they show American plans for a long-term presence in their country.

Sunni members of the Iraqi Islamic Party regard them as evidence of an open-ended "occupation", a charge denied by US officials who insist the bases are another step in an eventual withdrawal.

But even the marines based at al-Asad are sceptical about how quickly that step will be completed.

The Iraqi army is considered "at least" a year from being able to take the fight to the insurgents.

Senior officers point out that when the main army base near Tikrit was handed over to Iraqi forces, a transfer widely touted by Washington as evidence of Iraq's growing ability to stand alone, it was looted bare within weeks by the very Iraqi units who were meant to protect it.

Above all there is the knowledge gained through grim experience that predictions of what Iraq will be like in the immediate future are almost always wrong.

Col H R McMaster, the commander of troops in Tal Afar and the US senior officer whose counter-insurgency tactics have been singled out for praise in Washington and London, was asked recently what he thought the next 12 months would hold for Iraqis.

He declined to speculate. "Anyone who claims to understand what is happening in Iraq does not understand it," he answered.

Servicemen, meanwhile, confidently predict that they will be rotating through the base for at least a decade.

One sergeant pointed out that at least they will be able to buy a proper cup of coffee.


TOPICS: News/Current Events
KEYWORDS: football; haul; iraq; long; militarybases; oif; pizza; point; staying; us

1 posted on 02/10/2006 5:14:19 PM PST by blam
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To: blam

The best thing that we can do for Iraq is leave them with a healthy dose of American culture.


2 posted on 02/10/2006 5:15:40 PM PST by July 4th (A vacant lot cancelled out my vote for Bush.)
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To: blam

Not if THIS guy has his way: http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/1576155/posts


3 posted on 02/10/2006 5:16:25 PM PST by BenLurkin (O beautiful for patriot dream - that sees beyond the years)
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To: Bugaloo

Why don't you deal with the thread you started to troll instead of bravely running away?


5 posted on 02/10/2006 5:20:36 PM PST by Darksheare (Aim low! They got knees!)
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To: Darksheare; Bugaloo

That's the attitude, make the troll suffer!


6 posted on 02/10/2006 5:23:56 PM PST by wagglebee ("We are ready for the greatest achievements in the history of freedom." -- President Bush, 1/20/05)
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To: wagglebee; Bugaloo

He should be so lucky.


7 posted on 02/10/2006 5:24:59 PM PST by Darksheare (Aim low! They got knees!)
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To: Bugaloo

The more culturally similar and interconnected the two countries are, the less likely that there will be future problems. In essence, Friedman's "Golden Arches" theory - once a nation can support a McDonalds franchise, that nation has a level of affluence and sort of culture making it unlikely that they'll go to war with another "McDonalds country."


8 posted on 02/10/2006 5:27:40 PM PST by July 4th (A vacant lot cancelled out my vote for Bush.)
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To: blam

Just because the US military pumps some money into a base, it doesn't mean we are staying for the long haul. I remember when the Army pumped a boatload of cash into fixing up and expanding the PX facilities in Nurnberg, Germany, then within a year they closed it and gave it to the Germans.


9 posted on 02/10/2006 5:36:18 PM PST by rivercat (Welcome to California. Now go home.)
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To: dcam

But even the marines based at al-Asad are sceptical about how quickly that step will be completed. The Iraqi army is considered "at least" a year from being able to take the fight to the insurgents.




What do they mean by taking the fight, I though they were already fighting.


10 posted on 02/10/2006 5:42:30 PM PST by jmc1969
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To: jmc1969

I don't understand the rush to get out. Is it an attempt to make us fail?


11 posted on 02/10/2006 5:48:30 PM PST by ClaireSolt (.)
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To: ClaireSolt

If we would stop the daily patrols were every other day 2-5 marines get blown apart by IEDs there wouldn't be a huge rush to get out.


12 posted on 02/10/2006 5:50:29 PM PST by jmc1969
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To: blam
He declined to speculate. "Anyone who claims to understand what is happening in Iraq does not understand it," he answered.
. . . so preparing for the long haul at least assures that you won't be disappointed.
And preparing for the best case scenario guarantees that you will be.

13 posted on 02/10/2006 5:52:17 PM PST by conservatism_IS_compassion (The idea around which liberalism coheres is that NOTHING actually matters but PR.)
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To: blam

Correct me if I am wrong, but hasn't H R McMaster been a rising star for some time now? Why isn't he at least a one star?


14 posted on 02/10/2006 6:00:18 PM PST by 91B (God made man, Sam Colt made men equal.)
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To: jmc1969

The daily casualties are not being pushed by the news anymore. Are they still occurring? I just think we should follow up and make this a success like S Korea, Germany, and Japan not bug out and turn it into Kosovo.


15 posted on 02/11/2006 7:02:49 AM PST by ClaireSolt (.)
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