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Whistleblower says NSA violations bigger
UPI ^ | 2/14/2006 | staff

Posted on 02/14/2006 4:29:35 PM PST by wjersey

A former NSA employee said Tuesday there is another ongoing top-secret surveillance program that might have violated millions of Americans' Constitutional rights.

Russell D. Tice told the House Government Reform Subcommittee on National Security, Emerging Threats and International Relations he has concerns about a "special access" electronic surveillance program that he characterized as far more wide-ranging than the warrentless wiretapping recently exposed by the New York Times but he is forbidden from discussing the program with Congress.

Tice said he believes it violates the Constitution's protection against unlawful search and seizures but has no way of sharing the information without breaking classification laws. He is not even allowed to tell the congressional intelligence committees - members or their staff - because they lack high enough clearance.

Neither could he brief the inspector general of the NSA because that office is not cleared to hear the information, he said.

Subcommittee Chairman Rep. Christopher Shays, R-Conn., and Dennis Kucinich, D-Ohio, said they believe a few members of the Armed Services Committee are cleared for the information, but they said believe their committee and the intelligence committees have jurisdiction to hear the allegations.

"Congressman Kucinich wants Congressman Shays to hold a hearing (on the program)," said Doug Gordon, Kucinich's spokesman. "Obviously it would have to take place in some kind of a closed hearing. But Congress has a role to play in oversight. The (Bush) administration does not get to decide what Congress can and can not hear."

Tice was testifying because he was a National Security Agency intelligence officer who was stripped of his security clearance after he reported his suspicions that a former colleague at the Defense Intelligence Agency was a spy. The matter was dismissed by the DIA, but Tice pressed it later and was subsequently ordered to take a psychological examination, during which he was declared paranoid. He is now unemployed.

Tice was one of the New York Times sources for its wiretapping story, but he told the committee the information he provided was not secret and could have been provided by an private sector electronic communications professional.


TOPICS: News/Current Events
KEYWORDS: 109th; homelandsecurity; kucinich; looselips; nsa; nsaleak; nsawhistleblower; russelltice; russtice; spying; tice
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Here we go again - the DIMs just love this.
1 posted on 02/14/2006 4:29:37 PM PST by wjersey
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"Russell D. Tice told the House Government Reform Subcommittee on National Security, Emerging Threats and International Relations he has concerns about a "special access" electronic surveillance program that he characterized as far more wide-ranging than the warrentless wiretapping recently exposed by the New York Times but he is forbidden from discussing the program with Congress."

So he told them about it but he is forbidden to talk about.


2 posted on 02/14/2006 4:31:20 PM PST by gondramB (Render unto Caesar that which is Caesar's and unto God that which is God's.)
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To: wjersey

Why is he not in jail yet?


3 posted on 02/14/2006 4:31:50 PM PST by Crazieman (6-23-2005, Establishment of the United Socialist States of America)
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"Tice was testifying because he was a National Security Agency intelligence officer who was stripped of his security clearance after he reported his suspicions that a former colleague at the Defense Intelligence Agency was a spy. The matter was dismissed by the DIA, but Tice pressed it later and was subsequently ordered to take a psychological examination, during which he was declared paranoid. He is now unemployed."

I think this says it all...of course the DementiaCrats and their media lapdogs won't let a lack of credibility stop them from using this guy as the point-man for a new attack on the administration. Spare me. American politics is becoming tiresome.


4 posted on 02/14/2006 4:31:54 PM PST by MikeA
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To: wjersey

So when do we jail the editors of the NYT for treason?


5 posted on 02/14/2006 4:32:23 PM PST by TWohlford
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Cheney wants to take this guy Bear hunting.
6 posted on 02/14/2006 4:34:56 PM PST by BallyBill (Serial Hit-N-Run poster)
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Subcommittee Chairman Rep. Christopher Shays, R-Conn., and Dennis Kucinich, D-Ohio

'nough said....

7 posted on 02/14/2006 4:36:54 PM PST by digger48
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The matter was dismissed by the DIA, but Tice pressed it later and was subsequently ordered to take a psychological examination, during which he was declared paranoid. He is now unemployed.

Stop the presses! Some paranoid guy has top secret information about how bad Bush is!

8 posted on 02/14/2006 4:38:06 PM PST by Dog Gone
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Tice is a confirmed psycho. I hope he keeps on talking and the Dems stand behind him.


9 posted on 02/14/2006 4:41:39 PM PST by frankjr
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*yawn*


10 posted on 02/14/2006 4:41:56 PM PST by Stellar Dendrite (There's nothing "Mainstream" about the Orwellian Media!!!)
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"Congressman Kucinich wants......"
The matter was dismissed by the DIA, but Tice pressed it later and was subsequently ordered to take a psychological examination, during which he was declared paranoid. He is now unemployed.

That fits..... Kucinich and a certifiable paranoid asshole..

Semper Fi

11 posted on 02/14/2006 4:42:12 PM PST by river rat (You may turn the other cheek, but I prefer to look into my enemy's vacant dead eyes.)
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Headlines should be:

"Psychotic Paranoid Whistleblower Says NSA Violations Bigger "
Some Congressmen take him seriesly...say this is HUGH

12 posted on 02/14/2006 4:44:30 PM PST by muleskinner
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>>Tice was testifying because he was a National Security Agency intelligence officer who was stripped of his security clearance after he reported his suspicions that a former colleague at the Defense Intelligence Agency was a spy. The matter was dismissed by the DIA, but Tice pressed it later and was subsequently ordered to take a psychological examination, during which he was declared paranoid. He is now unemployed<<

This is the important part. He's a nut job.


13 posted on 02/14/2006 4:47:08 PM PST by sissyjane (Don't be stuck on stupid!)
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To: wjersey
Would that be Echelon?
14 posted on 02/14/2006 4:49:12 PM PST by zeaal (SPREAD TRUTH!)
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echelon is also legal.


15 posted on 02/14/2006 4:53:58 PM PST by oceanview
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You know what? I hope that NSA is listening to my phone calls. Especially my phone calls from Afghanistan and Syria. Oh wait, I don't have any.


16 posted on 02/14/2006 4:59:59 PM PST by Sender (As water has no constant form, there are in war no constant conditions. Be without form. -Sun Tzu)
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Aren't Tice and Larry Johnson both members of some WhistleBlowers Organization thats made up of mostly bitter ex-agents.


17 posted on 02/14/2006 5:02:01 PM PST by AmeriBrit (The 'hildabeast' must be stopped. RELEASE THE COMPLETE BARRETT REPORT.....NOW!)
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From hundreds to thousands to ten's of thousands and now millions? No, not paranoid! sarc
18 posted on 02/14/2006 5:06:52 PM PST by Wasanother (Terrorist come in many forms but all are RATS.)
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To: gondramB
So he told them about it but he is forbidden to talk about (it).
LOL! I do not believe I ever read of the "Echelon" project being discontinued and that was for monitoring communications worldwide for key words - of course x42 was running it so that was OK ... :-(
19 posted on 02/14/2006 5:23:56 PM PST by Tunehead54 (Nothing funny here ;-)
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This says it all..."A former NSA employee said Tuesday there is another ongoing top-secret surveillance program that might have violated millions of Americans' Constitutional rights."

...or maybe it didn't. There might be a tooth fairy, an Easter bunny and a great pumpkin... or there might not.

20 posted on 02/14/2006 5:26:44 PM PST by infidel29 ("We are all born ignorant, but one must work hard to remain stupid." --Benjamin Franklin)
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