Pot, Meet Kettle: Jack Danforth and Conservative Christians

Breakpoint with Charles Colson ^ | February 16, 2006 | Charles Colson

[Russ]

"...just imagine what he would do for Jesus."

He will do whatever Jesus tells him to do, no more and no less. Giving his life over to Jesus does make him a better person.

[OldFriend]

And that whore McCain continues to pretend he's pro life and pro family.

Another of Whitman's stated goals is allowing homosexuals to marry.

[ohioman]

Danforth can go to hell for all I care!

[Swiss]

Saint Paul wasn't a nice person before he converted.

[Mr. Silverback]

As Liddy said, if he would run over his grandmother for Nixon, just imagine what he will do for Jesus. The fact that he has changed his object of idolitry does not make him a nicer person.

Bilgewater. I'm calling you out.

In his career with Nixon, a few short years, he had the FBI files, the domestic spying on Dems and his involvement with the "plumbers."

The guy has a 32 year history as a Christian. Surely you can find many examples of skullduggery he has committed in the name of his Lord, Jesus Christ. Please, list just a few of them for me.

Again, I'm calling you out. Talk evidence or admit your bigotry.

[Servant of the 9]

Saint Paul wasn't a nice person before he converted.

He wasn't a nice person after either.

What he preached had a lot more to do with the meanness of his soul than with the words of Christ.

SO9

[i.l.e.]

Jack Danforth, a former Republican senator from Missouri and an Episcopal priest

Danforth is a dyed in the wool liberal protestant hack. He would vote for the crucifiction of Jesus if he felt it were socially responsible.

[Servant of the 9]

The guy has a 32 year history as a Christian.

And he's made a very nice living at it.
He had to, he had no other prospects.

SO9

[Galveston Grl]

Danforth sees a constant flow of Western ethics which are rooted in Judeo-Christian philosophy and he, a humanist, wants it to stop now. He and his fellow humanists can't stand the competition.

Those who support unethical ideas and actions do not want to be questioned or debated on the basis of religion or science. That is why the Islamists, Nazis and the Commies have murdered their debaters and questioners. Their darkness can not stand in the face of light. The only solution is to try and snuff the light. Danforth's demand: Leave us alone; get out of politics and hide in your churches, Christians! Hopefully, no one will toss holy water on him! I would hate to see what happens. ; )

[Mr. Silverback]

What he preached had a lot more to do with the meanness of his soul than with the words of Christ.

Provide examples.

[Mr. Silverback]

What he preached had a lot more to do with the meanness of his soul than with the words of Christ.

Oops, let's try that again:

Provide examples. Include a reason that the other apostles, who knew Jesus personally, would embrace a cruel hack who was preaching heresy.

[linda_22003]

Remember, he's Episcopalian (so am I). We see our relationship with God as being pretty much a peer-level thing. ;-D

[AZ_Cowboy]

No, they do it to other groups as well. It's just not as vocal as it is with their favorite strawman group.

Remember, these are the same people who swore that there were armed militias hiding in the mountains at one time, too. They've always got a boogeyman under their bed. Like I said, I guess they miss those days when we used to go golfing with Tip O'Neil.

[utahagen]

Huh? Charles Colson has spent the last forty years redeeming himself for having had the "I'd-run-over-my-grnadmother..." attitude. In addition, Colson is much gentler here about Danforth than Danforth has been recently towards Colson and others on the "Christian Right".

[Mr. Silverback]

And he's made a very nice living at it. He had to, he had no other prospects.

Nice try. You said...

As Liddy said, if he would run over his grandmother for Nixon, just imagine what he will do for Jesus. The fact that he has changed his object of idolitry does not make him a nicer person.

I asked you to back that up with examples of bad behavior...and your response is that he "made a good living" while he spent thirty years devoting his full time to the good of others? If he was the same as he was when he worked for Nixon, "making a good living" would only have been step one in his plan to screw everybody in sight.

So, again I'm calling you out, but I'll even be nice and give you an additional way to slither out of it:

1. Provide an example of skullduggery Colson committed for Jesus anytime in his 32 years as a Christian.

2. Provide evidence that Prison Fellowship is a scam. If a group has been working in hundreds or thousands of prisons for decades and it has all been a scam, then surely you should be able to show some evidence of fraud. To show Colson is an unreformed criminal, you must show that this work is a fraud and his gains ill-gotten.

I'm calling you out. Provide evidence or admit your bigotry.

[Mr. Silverback]

Like I said, I guess they miss those days when we used to go golfing with Tip O'Neil.

Most certainly.

[doberville]

Au contraire, mon ami: Mr Colson has done penance. He did not become embittered. He drew whatever wisdom could be found from a bad situation and put it towards good use. For this, I cut him some slack.

[Mr. Silverback]

See posts 19, 25, 26, 28, 31 and 35. I bounced him with the sun behind me and he's jinking like a maniac.

[VOA]

I've heard commentary from both Colson and from Danforth.
Both can sound judgemental at times, depending on who is doing the listening.
And it is their right to sound whatever tone they choose.
Until we're under Shari'a.

[Sybeck1]

The same.