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Pot, Meet Kettle: Jack Danforth and Conservative Christians
Breakpoint with Charles Colson ^
| February 16, 2006
| Charles Colson
Posted on 02/16/2006 7:29:43 AM PST by Mr. Silverback
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People promote abortion and perversion in the name of Christ, and when we object, it's "us-versus-them, my-God-is-bigger-than-your-God?" How sad that this man is so blind.
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posted on
02/16/2006 7:31:32 AM PST
by
Mr. Silverback
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To: Mr. Silverback
"...Danforth [says he] worships a humbler God and [he] considers the [religious] rights certainty a sin.Many of us would consider his uncertainty a sin.
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posted on
02/16/2006 7:34:36 AM PST
by
ladtx
("It is fatal to enter any war without the will to win it." -- -- General Douglas MacArthur)
To: Mr. Silverback
Chuck (I'd run over my grandmother for Nixon) Colson has the nerve to talk about anyone else's 'Judgemental tone'?
So9
To: Mr. Silverback
Didn't Danforth help gloss-over the Clinton/Reno/Waco Military invasion and Democrat Government run murder of the Branch Davidians?
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posted on
02/16/2006 7:36:01 AM PST
by
digger48
To: Mr. Silverback
Danforth is on Christie Whitman's PAC board.
Their stated goal is to defeat christian conservatives and replace them with moderates on the house and senate.
BTW, John McCain is also on the same Whitman PAC board.
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posted on
02/16/2006 7:38:40 AM PST
by
OldFriend
(The Dems enABLEd DANGER and 3,000 Americans died.)
To: Servant of the 9
Yes, being involved in Christian ministry for many years, I think he's earned the right.
To: Servant of the 9
Chuck (I'd run over my grandmother for Nixon) Colson has the nerve to talk about anyone else's 'Judgemental tone'? **Sigh**
Do you have any spelunking tips to offer, based on your vast experience? I mean, it's obvious you've been living in a cave for the last thirty years or so. You missed his conversion, and his thirty years of full-time Christian ministry.
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posted on
02/16/2006 7:43:27 AM PST
by
Mr. Silverback
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To: ladtx
Danforth [says he] worships a humbler God I don't recall God being humble, except for Christ's volitional act to humble himself and become a man and die on a cross for our sins. Except for that sacrificial act on our behalf, God never calls himself 'humble' in any way. He is a Holy, Righteous, Jealous, and Loving God, but not a humble One.
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posted on
02/16/2006 7:47:46 AM PST
by
VRWCmember
(You are STILL safer hunting with Dick Cheney than riding in a car with Ted Kennedy!)
To: ladtx
One of the lines of attack I've noticed against christian conservative lately is that we're too "certain," as if we're the only people in politics who have a strong opinion about anything.
It not only is often the pot calling the snowbank "black," but it downplays the more important moral virtue of fighting for your convictions with honor. If you're certain something is right and you press for it with class, honesty and goodwill, you should be lauded for it. Danforth appears to me to be a moral lightweight who did the Chrisitain tap dance so he could keep his Red state seat as long as he wanted it.
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posted on
02/16/2006 7:48:56 AM PST
by
Mr. Silverback
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To: VRWCmember
You make a good point. I would also say to Danforth that there is nothing arrogant about saying that wrong is wrong and right is right. The arrogance comes in making blanket "lokk at how good I am and how bad you suck" pronouncements like the one he's making.
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posted on
02/16/2006 7:50:33 AM PST
by
Mr. Silverback
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To: VRWCmember; ladtx
Oh, one other thing: Danforth thinks we're unhumble, but where is the arrogance in taking teachings
handed to us by God and saying, "maybe we should obey this?" We're not saying, "You are wrong because I don't like you and your behavior," we're pointing to God and saying, "We don't have the answers, but He does." It's the opposite of arrogance, whereas people like Danforth, McCain and Christie Whitman (and virtually all the libs) are basically making it up as they go along, and imposing their moral vision because they have none to appeal to.
I'd ask Danforth, who is more "certain" that they personally know what is right and wrong for all people: Kate Michelman and Kim Gandy, or Chuck Colson and Jim Dobson?
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posted on
02/16/2006 7:58:09 AM PST
by
Mr. Silverback
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To: Mr. Silverback
A good response from Colson. I really dislike Danforth. He has always been more concerned with his Establishment buddies at the NYT and in DC, than Conservatives or his home state of Missouri.
What could be more arrogant than a politician telling someone they are unchristian?
Does God talk to him on a regular basis?
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posted on
02/16/2006 7:59:44 AM PST
by
rcocean
(Copyright is theft and loved by Hollywood socialists)
To: Servant of the 9
Elitists like Danford and Whitman are uncomfortable with activism.
The old Republicans were happy with minority status, and failed to see the onslaught of liberal cultural dominance.
It is natural for a society to fight back, engage in activism, judge others, when they are punched repeatedly, over decades and see their leaders doing nothing.
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posted on
02/16/2006 8:05:40 AM PST
by
roses of sharon
("I would rather men ask why I have no statue, than why I have one". ) (Cato the Elder)
To: Servant of the 9
Actually I appreciate the article, not judgmental, merely informative. I like knowing where a politician stands, don't you?
To: All
Wasn't this Danforth fellow the same guy who was all gung-ho for regulating horsepower output for motorcycles? Some conservative.
Just another moderate who thinks born-agains are under his bed and out to "impose" a theocracy on everyone else. They even have that stupid PAC, which if successful will put the GOP back to where it was at in the late 1950s. Why anyone would want to return the GOP to being the party of the snobby New England business elite is beyond me. Perhaps they like being able to whine about being the poor, pitiful minority?
These people are always trying to shut up anyone who doesn't want to talk about the stock market. They are the sorts of snobs that say things like the NRA hurts the Republicans because it frightens the soccer moms. Their line is almost always the same- "If the folks who really know and care about the issues would just shut up, we could attract the mushy middle into the ranks and get huge numbers of votes." You just fill in the blanks...it could be gun owners, Southerners, Abortion Opponents, Rural Folks, People who don't like Eminent Domain, the NRA, whatever.
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posted on
02/16/2006 8:43:46 AM PST
by
AZ_Cowboy
("There they go again...")
To: roses of sharon
Well said! Allow me to observe that many conservatives are uncomfortable with activism.. Activism takes time away from the truly important jobs that we the workers do each day. IMHO a conservative activist letter written for physicians did a nice job of explaining the plight of conservative activists by noting that physicians (entrepreneurs) naturally serve others by shunning the very confrontation required by activism.
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posted on
02/16/2006 8:43:48 AM PST
by
Milhous
(Sarcasm - the last refuge of an empty mind.)
To: Mr. Silverback
its time for the senator to go back and to read his history books, where he will discover that the greatest defenders of human rights in history had been his fellow Christians.. . . not just some of them, but all of them have been Christians. Who else stood up against slavery as an institution? Pagans? Hindus? Buddhists? Muslims? Nope, none of the above. Indeed, through most of history Christians didn't either. But from the end of the Eighteenth Century some Christians became militant abolitionists. Enough British Christians did so to cause Victorian Britain to be the great opponent of slavery worldwide. Enough Americans did so to precipitate the Civil War. </Thomas Sowell>
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posted on
02/16/2006 8:59:56 AM PST
by
conservatism_IS_compassion
(The idea around which liberalism coheres is that NOTHING actually matters but PR.)
To: Mr. Silverback
Chuck (I'd run over my grandmother for Nixon) Colson has the nerve to talk about anyone else's 'Judgemental tone'?
**Sigh**
Do you have any spelunking tips to offer, based on your vast experience? I mean, it's obvious you've been living in a cave for the last thirty years or so. You missed his conversion, and his thirty years of full-time Christian ministry.
As Liddy said, if he would run over his grandmother for Nixon, just imagine what he will do for Jesus.
The fact that he has changed his object of idolitry does not make him a nicer person.
SO9
To: OldFriend
Their stated goal is to defeat christian conservatives and replace them with moderates atheists in the house and senate.
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posted on
02/16/2006 9:07:59 AM PST
by
pbear8
(I have to wait until Monday for '24'!!!! =()
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