Posted on 02/19/2006 8:39:50 AM PST by Liz
REV. JAMES FORBES Gets 510G a year.
A group of parishioners at storied Riverside Church has charged that $10 million has "simply disappeared," finances are in disarray, and the church's high-profile minister has received excessive, unauthorized raises.
Five parishioners some of whom once held leadership positions at the soaring, Gothic landmark perched on the Hudson River are asking a judge to appoint an independent receiver to examine Riverside's books and order a special meeting to discuss church governance.
The parishioners say Riverside's leader, the Rev. James Forbes, receives a $280,000 salary and a $240,000 housing allowance, and claim he gets increases "never submitted or approved by the church council." Their petition, filed Feb. 6 in state Supreme Court in Manhattan, is the latest salvo in the group's long, bitter feud with Forbes.
Since becoming senior minister in 1989, Forbes has faced persistent criticism over his leadership and preaching style at the famously left-leaning church.
In a statement, Riverside said the petition lacks "any factual or legal basis" and the five parishioners "have a long history of criticizing the church." Several years ago, Forbes' opponents asked the Manhattan DA to investigate financial wrongdoing, but no charges were filed, a spokeswoman for Riverside side.
In the petition, the five parishioners accuse a "select few" of managing the church's affairs "without seeking approval by the appropriate church body."
Spence said Riverside's books are "transparent" and are kept in the church's library, which is open to the congregation. Spence disputed the charge that $10 million "disappeared" from Riverside's Jubilee Fund, noting that $4.4 million of the fund has not been spent and the rest is accounted for in Riverside's books.
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Must be Bush's fault somehow.
And all along we have been told that it was only conservatives or those hateful televangelists, and not the liberal pastors, who were greedy. BTW, if you look at the old "mainline" denominations, you will see that they usually pay their non-believing pastors much more money for much less work than do Baptists or charismatic churches.
Must be a term only used on churches with likely Republican voters???
Just one paycheck away from the street...
I'm surprised this guy has an actual church. Compare to Jackson, Sharpton et al.
Has anyone criticized his wardrobe?
Go ahead, if you want to. We're all eyes.
That is not a "housing Allowance", that is tax evasion.
As long as any man is called "Reverend" we will find a few (maybe many) who persue the reward of the salutation. This (so called) Reverend is one good example.
This "church" is a theater for the Clintons' political speeches. The Rev is tight with them. Remember BJ's disgusting speech there before the Republian convention?
http://www.beliefnet.com/story/151/story_15194_1.html
http://www.yuricareport.com/Dominionism/ClintonSpeaksAtRiversideChurch.html
well said!
Hey, nice find. Thanks.
Wonder if he's been making any political donations...?
Anybody remember Michelle Malkin's September 1, 2004 WorldNetDaily column about the lack of consternation by the NY Times and the "separation-of-church-and-state" crowd about Forbes' and Riverside's blatant political event featuring Bill Clinton on the 2004 election?
An excerpt follows:
"None of this alleged concern [by the NY Times] about the supposedly undemocratic mixture of religion and politics was evident, however, in the Times' coverage of former president Bill Clinton's pulpit demagoguery at the far-left Riverside Church in New York City this past Sunday on behalf of Democratic presidential candidate John Kerry. Here's the lead for the front-page article that ran in the Times' politics section on Monday:
"Former President Bill Clinton offered a hard-hitting attack against the Republican Party yesterday, telling worshipers gathered at Riverside Church that President Bush and the Republicans are distorting John Kerry's war record in Vietnam. 'Sometimes I think our friends on the other side have become the people of the Nine Commandments,' Mr. Clinton said. 'It is wrong to bear false witness.'
"Yup. Before a crowd of 1,500 worshipers in upper Manhattan, Clinton slammed religious conservatives for their stance against homosexual marriage and abortion; attacked President Bush's No Child Left Behind Act (co-sponsored by Democratic Sen. Teddy Kennedy); derided the Bush tax cuts; questioned the Republicans' 'healthy forest' initiative; and ridiculed the expansive Medicare prescription-drug-benefit program passed with support of both parties.
"Would a Times reporter have approvingly described a sermon by a conservative preacher taking the opposite stance on the pulpit as "hard-hitting"?
"Why didn't the reporter include the standard alarmist quote from secularist Barry Lynn questioning the tax-exempt status of the Riverside Church?"
"And, putting aside the unholy spectre of an impeached president shamelessly invoking the Bible to condemn others for lying, where are all the Times' editorial writers previously so concerned about protecting the church sanctuary from disrespectful partisan politics now?
"Clinton's strident Sunday morning visit to the Riverside Church wasn't just one spontaneous event, but part of a coordinated nationwide campaign called 'Mobilization 2004.' The church's pastor, Rev. James Forbes, has aligned with crockumentary filmmaker Michael Moore, socialist anti-war agitators Code Pink, and liberal Protestant churches bent on booting President Bush out of office. Forbes, who spoke at the Democratic National Convention, has his hands in protest events all week during the Republican National Convention, pushing everything from increased federal spending on hunger and homelessness to single-payer health insurance.
"Nevertheless, there have been no in-depth, front-page stories on how Kerry allies are 'tilling fertile soil' among left-wing Protestants for votes. No editorials snidely titled 'Onward Democrat Soldiers.' And no conspiratorial flow-charts suggesting coordination between Rev. Forbes, the Clintons (Hillary attended the service after attacking Bush on the Sunday morning talk-show circuit) and the Kerry campaign.
"The New York Times' sanctimonious reporters and editorialists loudly declaim the mixture of religion and politics whenever conservative Christians are involved. But when the religious Left brings Democratic partisans to preach to the choir, the church-state separatists in the media are quieter than country church mice. The double standard echoes like a steel trap snapping in an empty cathedral."
OK -as they say at National Palistinian Radio (NPR) "Let's do the numbers".
$520,000 divided by fifty two weeks is $10,000 per week ?? ? ? ? ? ??
A preacher is paid $10,000 per week and still he steals?
Words fail me.
Hey, it's expensive maintaining a wife and a girlfriend---not to mention the gambling losses.
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