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Economic war on the U.S.? Iran, Venezuela join forces
Alijazeera ^ | 19 February 2006 | Alijazeera

Posted on 02/19/2006 1:58:44 PM PST by Racehorse

Iran and Venezuela joined forces to undermine the U.S. dollar.

Last year, Venezuelan President Hugo Chavez announced that his country's plans to move its foreign-exchange holdings out of the dollar into the euro, calling for the creation of a South American central bank designed to hold in euros all the foreign-exchange holdings of the participating countries.

On the other hand, Iran started since 2003 demanding oil payment in euros, not dollars, although the oil itself was still priced in dollars. The Islamic Republic has already announced plans of opening the Iranian Oil Bourse in March, challenging by that the NYMEX (the New York Mercantile Exchange) and IPE (London's International Petroleum Exchange).

Iranian and Venezuelan lawmakers have recently signed a document condemning nuclear weapons, yet stressing all nations’ right to peaceful uses of nuclear energy.

During a visit he paid recently to the Venezuelan capital Caracas, Iranian Parliament speaker Ghulam Ali Haddad stated that the U.S. persistent rejection to recognise Iran’s right to pursue nuclear technology to be used for civilian purposes was "only a pretext."

"They are worried that we want to be independent," Hadad Adel said.

[. . .]

But what did the Iranian diplomat mean by saying that the U.S. is "worried that we want to be independent" Iran is already an independent and not an occupied country- He didn’t mean the military occupation. . . . Mr Adel didn’t mean the military occupation, but becoming independent of the U.S. dollar.

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By joining forces in a move expected to deal a major blow to the U.S. economy, Iran and Venezuela are encouraging and creating a golden opportunity for other states to shift foreign-exchange holdings out of dollars and into euros or other currencies.

(Excerpt) Read more at aljazeera.com ...


TOPICS: Extended News; Government; News/Current Events
KEYWORDS: chavez; energy; euros; iran; oil; petrodollars; redjihad; venezuela
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1 posted on 02/19/2006 1:58:47 PM PST by Racehorse
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To: Racehorse

Hugo is such a little punk.


2 posted on 02/19/2006 2:00:32 PM PST by mtbopfuyn (Legality does not dictate morality... Lavin)
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To: mtbopfuyn

Let's just skip the formalities ...


3 posted on 02/19/2006 2:01:59 PM PST by mcg2000 (New Orleans: The city that declared Jihad against The Red Cross.)
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To: mtbopfuyn

He needs to have a fatal accident!


4 posted on 02/19/2006 2:02:38 PM PST by RVN Airplane Driver (Most Americans are so spoiled with freedom they have no idea what it takes to earn and keep it.)
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To: mcg2000

agree.

First let's stop giving them money, for oil or anything else. They appear to prefer it that way, so let's go for it!

Sure it will be painful (here) but what doesn't kill us, makes us stronger. I know I could use more exercise, riding a bike to work or carpooling wouldn't hurt most of us. And if we really really had to, I suspect we in this great country can come up with alternatives if we get desperate enough.


5 posted on 02/19/2006 2:05:52 PM PST by SusaninOhio
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To: Racehorse

I'm surprised Kerry has been silent! Hasn't Hugo nationalized ton of companies including, the Heinz factory?


6 posted on 02/19/2006 2:09:42 PM PST by SIRTRIS
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To: Racehorse

Hugo Chavez is just an attention whore.


7 posted on 02/19/2006 2:10:32 PM PST by Thunder90
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To: Racehorse
Economic wars can be won by making the other side spend itself to death.

"The Russians watched the budget for the U.S. military increase, culminating in Reagan's grand promise to create the Strategic Defense Initiative -- better known as Star Wars. While many U.S. experts doubted whether such a missile shield was even feasible -- and it never was built -- the Soviets were not among the skeptics. They pulled out the generals to give endless press conferences on the insanity of such an "aggressive" move, and the papers were apoplectic with criticism.

But Reagan repeatedly upped the ante -- and the Soviets realized that the costs of matching him militarily were beyond their means. The Soviet economy was languishing: Military spending ate up 14% of the budget, while growth slowed to 2.2% -- too weak to meet the nation's economic goals."

8 posted on 02/19/2006 2:16:59 PM PST by ex-snook (God of the Universe, God of Creation, God of Love, thank you for life.)
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To: SusaninOhio

Use less oil. Burn more coal.


9 posted on 02/19/2006 2:22:09 PM PST by Reagan 76
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To: Reagan 76

With Nut-Jobs like Chavez around, we need offshore drilling more than ever. With the clowns in FL, CA seeking to ban such drilling, it puts us in a dangerous position. Anybody that supports such a ban is supporting Chavez, and his Iran buddies, and further US subservience to foreign psychos.


10 posted on 02/19/2006 2:25:32 PM PST by ozoneliar ("The tree of liberty must be refreshed from time to time with the blood of patriots & tyrants" -T.J.)
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To: Racehorse

The U. S. does not buy oil from Iran. If the U. S. stopped buying Venezuela's oil that nation would shrink up and blow away.


11 posted on 02/19/2006 2:29:35 PM PST by R.W.Ratikal
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To: Racehorse
whatever we do let's don't drill in the Gulf, anwar, crank up some nuke reactors or anywhere near home where we might get rid of these bozos. Let's keep up our endearing relations with our oil partners. puke.
12 posted on 02/19/2006 2:39:40 PM PST by rodguy911 (Support the New Media and F.R.)
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To: Racehorse
By joining forces in a move expected to deal a major blow to the U.S. economy,...

In their dreams.

13 posted on 02/19/2006 2:57:14 PM PST by Christopher Lincoln
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To: Christopher Lincoln
LOL!....I fear Venezuelan and Iranian superiority in technology and economic power. We had better do what the say or they will..."Bury us..."


14 posted on 02/19/2006 3:23:05 PM PST by Dallas59 ((“You love life, while we love death"( Al-Qaeda & Democratic Party))
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To: R.W.Ratikal
If the U. S. stopped buying Venezuela's oil that nation would shrink up and blow away.

We're probably going to see if your theory holds water since the Chinese are dealing with Hugo to put Venezuelan oil under contract to them, and Hugo is now threatening to cut the oil he ships to us by 1/2 in the near future.

15 posted on 02/19/2006 3:42:46 PM PST by penowa
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To: penowa

The Vens economy would tank inside 60 days if they stopped shipping. Hugo knows it but runs his mouth anyway.


16 posted on 02/19/2006 3:55:05 PM PST by Eric in the Ozarks (BTUs are my Beat.)
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To: penowa

He could do that, but that would free up someone else's production for us to use. Check out today's Dilbert for Dogbert's wonderful description of fungible and the oil markets.


17 posted on 02/19/2006 4:22:37 PM PST by LenS
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To: penowa
You might be right. However Red China is in an economic decline with investors leaving in droves. Trading the U.S. for Red China yuan does not seem to be a good deal.

Venezuela has only one export that can sustain the country and that is oil. If it sells oil to Red China and gets yuan instead of dollars as expected in pay it could soon just be referred to as "that nation just off the island of Aruba.

All the more reason for the U.S. to begin a "Manhattan" project to achieve energy independence as soon as possible.
18 posted on 02/19/2006 4:37:20 PM PST by R.W.Ratikal
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To: Racehorse

Islamocommienazis everywhere, unite!

The race to the end of this dispensation is gaining momentum.

Got Jesus?


19 posted on 02/19/2006 4:39:59 PM PST by DoNotDivide (Romans 12:21 Be not overcome of evil, but overcome evil with good.)
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To: RVN Airplane Driver
He needs to have a fatal accident!

You're just trying to cheer us all up....aren't you.

20 posted on 02/19/2006 4:42:13 PM PST by Jorge
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