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AMHERST, Va. -- The removal of the Confederate flag from Amherst County's official seal has upset Southern heritage groups, who contend residents weren't told of the change.

They'll get no argument from county officials: They acknowledge the image was quietly removed in August 2004 to avoid an uproar.

"Any time you get a subject that broad, you can interrupt the entire county," said Leon Parrish of the Board of Supervisors.

Members of the Sons of Confederate Veterans and others opposed to the change have gathered hundreds of signatures protesting the flag's removal.

A small image of the flag was in the center of the seal, which was created in 1961 as part of the county's 200th anniversary. While celebrated by some, critics see the flag as a symbol of the South's segregated past and slavery.

The flag's removal came as the result of a resolution from the Board of Supervisors, according to David Proffitt, interim county administrator. A resolution does not require a public hearing.

"I don't think that the county should be promoting anything that's offensive to anyone," Parrish told The News & Advance of Lynchburg, in a story published Thursday. He said he proposed the resolution after receiving requests to do so from residents of his district.

Resident Leah Lovell said that she first discovered the flag was missing in April when she got her new county decal.

"That's the first thing I noticed," Lovell said. "It's part of our history. It affects thousands of people in the county."

At Dixie Outfitters, a Southern heritage memorabilia store in Madison Heights that prominently displays the flag on its storefront, county residents can sign petitions.

Brenda Beeton, who runs the shop with her husband, Dennis, said that she felt eliminating the flag from the seal took away a piece of Amherst County's history.

"When you change history, you burn a book, just like they did in Nazi Germany," Beeton said.

"You might as well live in Russia during the Communist regime."

Still, Parrish said that he and the board stood by their decision.

"People use the excuse that it's history, but if I want to know history, I go to the history books, not a symbol or a picture."

1 posted on 03/03/2006 11:37:57 AM PST by Rebeleye
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To: Rebeleye; sure_fine

Revisionist BS history by the PC-cowed crowd. They're probably pressuring them to add the sodomite-homo rainbow triangle, as a sign of good faith. Sad.


2 posted on 03/03/2006 11:43:10 AM PST by butternut_squash_bisque (Borders, Language, Cultureā„¢)
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To: Rebeleye

So, it took almost two years before anyone even noticed? I'd guess it's not such a big deal, then.

For pete's sake...there must be more important things to deal with there in Virginia, I'd think.


3 posted on 03/03/2006 11:44:04 AM PST by MineralMan (godless atheist)
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To: Rebeleye

"People use the excuse that it's history, but if I want to know history, I go to the history books, not a symbol or a picture."

Somehow I doubt this guy has opened a history book since he was in school.

According to this man's logic, perhap we ought to do away with every monument, museum or artifact of our nations past. Hey as long as it's written in a history book, we don't need any tangible links to the past. Sad to see that the people of this county have elected someone with such a small mind and lack of pride.


4 posted on 03/03/2006 11:49:01 AM PST by XRdsRev (The Democrat Party - Keeping Black folks on the "Plantation" since 1790)
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To: Rebeleye
What most people don't know is that they replaced it with the hammer and sickle.
5 posted on 03/03/2006 11:54:13 AM PST by taxesareforever (Government is running amuck)
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To: Rebeleye

Wow. I grew up there and I never even knew there WAS a Confederate flag on the county seal.

I'm ashamed at my home folks being spineless about this. This is very sad...as much the fact that they removed it without telling anyone as anything else. If they wanted to remove it, they needed to have a public debate about it instead of sneaking around like this.

This county, by the way, is about 20 miles northwest of Appomattox, where General Lee surrendered. A lot of Amherst men fought and died in the Army of Northern Virginia (I believe they furnished a battery that served under Pickett at Gettysburg).

}:-)4


7 posted on 03/03/2006 11:58:19 AM PST by Moose4 ("I will shoulder my musket and brandish my sword/In defense of this land and the word of the Lord")
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Ping for you, suh.

}:-)4


8 posted on 03/03/2006 11:58:54 AM PST by Moose4 ("I will shoulder my musket and brandish my sword/In defense of this land and the word of the Lord")
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the ethics and reasonings of such dweebs as the HS teacher in Colorado , that compares the Confederate Battle Flag to the nazi flag , are spreading . Further , individuals such as these seek to brainwash their impressionable students ,and propagate their attitudes in the classroom . They will loudly cheer moves such as this.
9 posted on 03/03/2006 12:12:03 PM PST by LeoWindhorse
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which was created in 1961

This tells us everything we need to know.

As in Georgia and South Carolina, segregationist Democrats raised the Confederate Battle Flag over government buildings as a way to signal resistance to desegregation and the civil rights movement. I'm glad that Amherst County chose to come out of the cold and join the rest of the country in accepting the conclusion of the civil rights movements.
19 posted on 03/03/2006 12:56:07 PM PST by HostileTerritory
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LoL. That was one "secret" which was revealed as soon as the first document was stamped.

What is next some German outraged because the Swastica has been removed from state documents?


24 posted on 03/03/2006 1:19:54 PM PST by justshutupandtakeit (Public Enemy #1, the RATmedia.)
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To: Rebeleye

I would expect something like this up in the DC area – but in the Hills of Virginia? That’s a long way to commute.


33 posted on 03/03/2006 1:57:32 PM PST by R. Scott (Humanity i love you because when you're hard up you pawn your Intelligence to buy a drink.)
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Okay, folks. Here's what all the fuss is about, the old seal of my home of Amherst County, Virginia:

See that incredibly teeny-tiny little blue cross in the center of the shield? Somebody or somebodies got offended over that.

}:-)4

39 posted on 03/03/2006 3:54:48 PM PST by Moose4 ("I will shoulder my musket and brandish my sword/In defense of this land and the word of the Lord")
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Dixieping


55 posted on 03/06/2006 8:02:10 PM PST by stainlessbanner
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Well, I have to say that while the Confederate flag is an important historical symbol, that's how it should be viewed-as an historical, not contemporary, symbol. Robert E. Lee, the South's most valiant and honorable General, was opposed to secession and denounced it as revolution and a betrayal of the Founding Fathers' ideals. He only accepted command for the South out of loyalty to his native Virginia and refused to wear Confedrate insignia. He would be the first to say that Confederacy belongs in the past and that we are all Americans now.
75 posted on 03/07/2006 1:52:52 AM PST by WestVirginiaRebel (Islamofascists don't need cartoons. They're already caricatures.)
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It won't stop here. Other symbols will follow to be replaced by One World symbols. Brave New World.


77 posted on 03/07/2006 4:52:23 AM PST by Dante3
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A small image of the flag was in the center of the seal, which was created in 1961 as part of the county's 200th anniversary.

Key sentence. Before the late 1940s it was rare to see a "Confederate" flag even in the South. The reason I put "Confederate" in quotes is that what is usually thought of as the Confederate flag was never a Confederate flag at all. The Stars and Bars was the Confederate flag used until 1863. Then a SQUARE version of what is incorrectly thought of as the Confederate flag was used in the upper left hand corner of a white flag which was used until early 1865 when a red stripe along the right edge of the flag was added.

The incorrect rectangular version only appeared frequently only around 1948 with the formation of the Dixiecrat Party and especially in the 1950s following the Supreme Court desegregation decision when many Southern states added versions of the "Confederate" flag to their state flags.

Even the Klan almost never used the "Confederate" flag prior to 1950. If you look at photos of the big Klan march in Washington in the 1920s during their high point, you see a lot of American flags but NO Confederate flags.

The fact is that the "Confederate" flag is revised history. The Confederate Battle Flag upon which the "Confederate" flag is based was ALWAYS square, NOT rectangular.

78 posted on 03/07/2006 5:02:26 AM PST by PJ-Comix (Join the DUmmie FUnnies PING List for the FUNNIEST Blog on the Web)
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County officials acknowledge the image was quietly removed

Liberals always try to do their dirty work secretly. Whey they are exposed, they will come with multiple excuses, like the Colorado "geography" teacher.

111 posted on 03/07/2006 7:28:39 AM PST by george wythe
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Our Town Fathers quietly removed the words "Holy Bible" from the now unamed black book on our official seal.


128 posted on 03/07/2006 8:42:51 AM PST by LikeLight
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"the image was quietly removed in August 2004 to avoid an uproar."

Of course, the American flag is offensive to many, seen as the symbol of oppression and genocide of American Indians, the banner of privileged males of European descent, oppressor of women, etc. Obviously, the stars and stripes will have to go, too, in favor of some new flag that celebrates diversity and multiculturalism so as not to offend anyone. It really shouldn't be displayed even for historic purposes since it might be found to be hurtful to some. [sarc./off]


263 posted on 03/09/2006 7:36:40 AM PST by reelfoot
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To: Rebeleye

And these "brave" souls did it secretly - sure a sign that they realized what they were doing was wrong.


346 posted on 03/13/2006 9:48:52 AM PST by Dante3
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in Los Angeles because of the separation of church and state thingy, city leaders want to ban any place name with a saint in it i.e. Santa Monica, Santa Barbara, San Fernando. They want to change the name of the San Andreas Fault to the Bush Fault


492 posted on 03/16/2006 2:28:29 PM PST by Republicus2001
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