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Theology and Illegal Aliens (O'Reilly on Cardinal Mahony's compassion for illegals)
billoreilly.com/ ^ | mar 4 06 | bill oreilly

Posted on 03/04/2006 1:42:33 PM PST by churchillbuff

As an American of Irish descent, Roman Catholicism has been in my family for hundreds of years. I respect the Church because I've seen first-hand the good that it can do. Worldwide, no organization does more for the poor and downtrodden than Catholic Charities.

Thus, it was no surprise when Roger Cardinal Mahony spoke from his pulpit in Los Angeles on Ash Wednesday and urged compassion for immigrants. Surely, people seeking a better life in the USA legally should get help from the Christian community. But the Cardinal's message turned out to include illegal immigrants as well, and then came the crusher: Cardinal Mahony said he will order his priests not to obey a proposed new federal law that cracks down on people aiding "undocumented aliens."

House Bill 4437, passed last December 16th, would make it a criminal offense to knowingly assist illegals in evading immigration laws. The proposed law also calls for a wall at the Mexican border, mandatory detention of illegals caught inside the USA, and a number of other tough enforcement provisions.

Cardinal Mahony opposes them all.

Instead, the Cardinal wants a "humane" approach to the illegal immigration problem and calls the tough measures "hysterical."

In a startling conversation with the LA Times, Mahony is quoted as saying that Al Qaeda operatives would not trek through the Arizona desert to infiltrate the USA and "the war on terror is not going to be won through immigration restrictions."

How the Cardinal arrived at these conclusions remains a mystery. I do believe, however, that thousands of Al Qaeda have trekked through arid areas in Afghanistan, Syria, Iran and Iraq. Somebody inform the Cardinal.

Mahony defiantly says that his priests are not going to become "immigration agents," but nobody is asking for that. The intent of the law is to eliminate so-called "sanctuary" policies whereby Americans shelter and generally provide for illegal aliens while helping them avoid detection.

As a Cardinal of the Catholic Church, Mahony's job description is to act as an "emissary" of Christ. So the question becomes, "What would Jesus do?"

It is hard to believe that Jesus would ask the nationality of anyone before giving the person food and drink, or tending to them if they were injured. But if you follow the "render to Caesar" parable, Jesus might not be fine with setting up an underground railroad that violates a nation's right to regulate who enters its territory.

Maybe I'm wrong here, but it seems absolutely lawful and logical for any country to want to know who is living within its borders. Is border control a human rights violation? What say you, Cardinal Mahony?

It is somewhat unfair to bring this up, but I must, in the interest of full disclosure. Cardinal Mahony was not proactive in protecting children from predator priests in his diocese. In fact, many believe Mahony is a villain in the matter, stonewalling authorities and not holding some criminal priests accountable.

There is no common ground between the issues of predator priests and illegal aliens, except respect for the law. Urging his priests to violate a proposed new federal immigration law, after handling the priest scandal poorly, puts Cardinal Mahony in a tough spot both morally and legally.

Back in the Vietnam War days, a number of priests violated the law by participating in illegal protests. Some of them spent time in prison for doing so. Will that happen to Cardinal Mahony if the new immigration law passes and he defies it?

Only God knows.


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1 posted on 03/04/2006 1:42:37 PM PST by churchillbuff
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has Cardinal Mahony ever been arrested protesting at an abortuary? I'd respect him for that.


2 posted on 03/04/2006 1:46:25 PM PST by churchillbuff
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To: churchillbuff

Strange...now here I was thinking that a an article discussing theology would...I don't know...maybe address scripture and theology.


3 posted on 03/04/2006 1:46:44 PM PST by highlander_UW (I don't know what my future holds, but I know Who holds my future)
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To: churchillbuff
I know O'Reilly has his critics on FR, but he is on the right side 90% of the time. Sure, he can be a blow-hard and has an ego as big as all outdoors. But, he has a huge audience (and unlike Rush Limbaugh, he's not necessarily speaking to the choir) and is in the forefront of the fight against MSM, the ACLU and illegal immigration.
4 posted on 03/04/2006 1:55:13 PM PST by BW2221
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To: churchillbuff
O'Reilly makes reference to being a good Catholic his whole life. I'm not Catholic but I believe the Catholic church has a history of taking people in and assisting them in time of need and ignoring mans law. I could be wrong.
5 posted on 03/04/2006 1:56:03 PM PST by jazusamo (:Gregory was riled while Hume smiled:)
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To: jazusamo
Unfortunately, illegal immigration poses a bunch of problems. Emergency rooms have been forced to shut down because hospitals were going broke. Education is another issue. Who is going to pay for the additional classrooms and teachers.

You also have a crime problem. The percentage of illegal aliens in prisons is becoming significant.
6 posted on 03/04/2006 2:01:58 PM PST by BW2221
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To: BW2221
I know O'Reilly has his critics on FR, but he is on the right side 90% of the time. """

Can't argue with that. He stands up for the Boy Scouts, for Christmas, for victimized kids. The Left hates him.

7 posted on 03/04/2006 2:03:25 PM PST by churchillbuff
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This crap is going around archdioceses:

http://www.archatl.com/archbishops/gregory/writings/2006/03.01.06-immigration.html


8 posted on 03/04/2006 2:04:13 PM PST by brainstem223
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To: churchillbuff

If Mahoney hates injustice, he should be denouncing the corrupt of government of Mexico at the top of his voice. If these people are refugees from poverty, it is because the weesalth of Mexico is concentrates in the hands of a few thousand familes.


9 posted on 03/04/2006 2:06:59 PM PST by RobbyS ( CHIRHO)
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To: BW2221
I agree with every one of your points. I didn't mean to sound like I support the Cardinal. I merely meant that O'Reilly seems to be surprised at the church's stance when he shouldn't be.
10 posted on 03/04/2006 2:07:04 PM PST by jazusamo (:Gregory was riled while Hume smiled:)
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To: churchillbuff

It's true that Charity is a theological virtue. However, don't forget that Justice is a Cardinal virtue.


11 posted on 03/04/2006 2:07:35 PM PST by joseph20
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To: BW2221

Nicely summed up!


12 posted on 03/04/2006 2:08:52 PM PST by Fruitbat
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To: churchillbuff

"Cardinal Mahony said he will order his priests not to obey a proposed new federal law that cracks down on people aiding "undocumented aliens."

Well, that's just real special. Mahoney can trump the federal laws with his laws. But guess what Mahoney? You're on your own because the Bible in no way teaches us to break the law. So, which book are you following?


13 posted on 03/04/2006 2:14:02 PM PST by Mrs. Darla Ruth Schwerin
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If We're not going to jail employers of illegal aliens, We probably aren't going to jail priests.


14 posted on 03/04/2006 2:17:19 PM PST by wolfcreek
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he percentage of illegal aliens in prisons is becoming significant.

All of them should be in prison since they all broke the law in coming here illegally.

Yes, I know there is a logistics problem with putting 10 - 20 mill. people in prison.

15 posted on 03/04/2006 2:22:21 PM PST by Graybeard58 (Remember and pray for Sgt. Matt Maupin - MIA/POW- Iraq since 04/09/04)
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To: Mrs. Darla Ruth Schwerin
"Cardinal Mahony said he will order his priests not to obey a proposed new federal law that cracks down on people aiding "undocumented aliens." Well, that's just real special. Mahoney can trump the federal laws with his laws. But guess what Mahoney? You're on your own because the Bible in no way teaches us to break the law. So, which book are you following?

Reminds me of Gavin "Twosome" Newsome - we, the elitists, only want to follow the laws we think are just!

16 posted on 03/04/2006 2:22:50 PM PST by p23185
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To: wolfcreek
If they get caught breaking the law then their tax exempt status should be rescinded for 2 years. If they are caught again breaking the law they would loose the tax exempt status for 5 years. The third time around the tax free status is gone for good.
Putting themselves above the law doesn't get it with me. We need to close all the doors to illegals and open the doors for legal immigration. If they are caught her illegally then they are sent home and put on the bottom of the list for legal immigration. If they are caught a second time here illegally they should do two years at hard labor and them deported with no chance of ever getting legal status.
Get rid of the anchor baby crap too.
17 posted on 03/04/2006 2:27:58 PM PST by oldenuff2no
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To: jazusamo

Mahoney is far from the Archbishop WE'd like to see in Los Angeles. I was suspicious of this bleeding-heart stance the moment he went public -- MSM -- and I am glad to have O'Reilley expose it. I bet it's smarmy and I bet he did it for political reasons. I do not trust the man.


18 posted on 03/04/2006 2:33:22 PM PST by bboop (Stealth Tutor)
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To: churchillbuff

The best way to get the message to these Cardinals and Bishops is to stop making donations to the Catholic Church on Sunday!

These bishops & Cardinals will change their perspective on the immigration issue when they loose their cash flow!
No Money for Mahoney!

Where is Cardinal Manhoney when it comes to dealing with the Pro Abortion Catholic SEnators and Congressmen?


19 posted on 03/04/2006 2:33:25 PM PST by petkus
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To: bboop
As I said earlier, O'Reilly is on our side 90% of the time. Unlike Rush Limbaugh and others who are more conservative, O'Reilly is in a position where he can change the opinion of independents on key issues. Unlike Limbaugh, he frequently debates people who oppose him, which gives him credibility with independents.

He has more viewers for his 4 AM rerun than Olbermann (a real loser) has at 8 PM. By far, he has the largest viewership of any cable news/opinion show.

O'Reilly is against the death penalty and can sometimes be something of a populist, but he is fighting MSM, the ACLU, people like Ward Churchill, illegal immigration, abortion, pedophiles, etc.

I have a hard time understanding why so many FReepers are anti-O'Reilly. You may not like the messenger, but you have to like most of what he is doing. Just be glad he's signing our song most of the time.
20 posted on 03/04/2006 2:52:35 PM PST by BW2221
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